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So recently diagnosed with diabetes went to the eye doctors the other day and got a diabetes eye test. Apparently the exam is not covered unless your on medication. What kind of a sick joke is that.

Anyway my eyes are good back to 20 20 and no damage. I would of convinced you otherwise on the closer as I was going blurry fast and needed to to use reading glasses for a week to see things close. Couldn't even read my work orders today its much better now .


Anyway my numbers were up in the 20s when I checked after showing some initial symptoms took a few weeks to get back into the normal range. Average is 5.6 for the week after 3 meals and some snacks per day.

Just thought I would make a little rant about our system.

No medication no benefits what a joke so if I choose to make a 100% diet change I'm stuck paying the bill. If I want the government to cover I need to take their prescription.
Anyway see if the work benefits cover it they should it is a test after all.

Ps the rants not about paying for it just the policy itself. Going back in may for another a1c test hopefully it's normal it was 12.5 and sugar level was 19 at my last test. . Good thing I love to cook made a keto shepherd's the other day so good and no spikes. Wife's been on and off the keto diet for so long it has put me in the right direction moving forward.

Take their medication and they will hook you up don't and your on your own. Nice thank you so much lol. Just proves what I already thought about the system.

Edit work benefits Covered it just came through as I wrote this. Thats a plus .

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I've been dealing with Type 2 for the last 15 years. My A1C floats around the 7.0 mark at any given time. I've also lost 50lbs. since I retired that's been a tremendous help. I allow my BSL to fluctuate between 6.9 and 9.6. My highest "spikes" can go to about 16 when I eat like an idiot. I'm using Jardiance daily and Ozempic once a week. You're right about it being a PITA. Watching what I eat and drink is quite the balancing act. It'll take you a while to get into the swing of things. Hint: Don't drink a lot of beer or garbage whisky that's distilled with a lot of sugar. Just drink the "good stuff".

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

I've been dealing with Type 2 for the last 15 years. My A1C floats around the 7.0 mark at any given time. I've also lost 50lbs. since I retired that's been a tremendous help. I allow my BSL to fluctuate between 6.9 and 9.6. My highest "spikes" can go to about 16 when I eat like an idiot. I'm using Jardiance daily and Ozempic once a week. You're right about it being a PITA. Watching what I eat and drink is quite the balancing act. It'll take you a while to get into the swing of things. Hint: Don't drink a lot of beer or garbage whisky that's distilled with a lot of sugar. Just drink the "good stuff".

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Don't forget you got to factour in your daily exercise/activity or inactivity

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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers

Don't forget you got to factour in your daily exercise/activity or inactivity

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Absolutely important almost more than anything else. Couch potatoes don't live very long.

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Originally Posted by fishfood

So recently diagnosed with diabetes went to the eye doctors the other day and got a diabetes eye test. Apparently the exam is not covered unless your on medication. What kind of a sick joke is that.

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I'm on that border line too but I have not had to pay for the annual exam. There is a much better in depth version of that test where the examiner can see just about everything you have ever seen, lol, I don't mind paying for that.

Lot's of stuff not covered by OHIP. My wife was tested for cancer once I think it was cervical, we had to pay for it ourselves. That was back around 2000. That cost me 1000.00 at the time.

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

Lot's of stuff not covered by OHIP. My wife was tested for cancer once I think it was cervical, we had to pay for it ourselves. That was back around 2000. That cost me 1000.00 at the time.

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It's so weird my wife had lump cut out of her back during the lockdowns. It wasn't covered unless it was cancerous we paid out of pocket as well.

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Originally Posted by Fisherman

I'm on that border line too but I have not had to pay for the annual exam. There is a much better in depth version of that test where the examiner can see just about everything you have ever seen, lol, I don't mind paying for that.

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First time to eye doctors in many many years. I had to get the diabetic test done it only made sense but what shocked me the most was when they said they only covered it if I was medicated.
I will be making yearly or by yearly visits unless it changes again.

Was getting scary for a little bit there and took almost a month to even get in.

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A few OHIP items were delisted under the Liberals in Ontario eye exams was one also Physiotherapy was reduced but I don't know about the some cancer tests, can't remember if that was before or after the Liberals. I think it was never covered.

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It's so weird my wife had lump cut out of her back during the lockdowns. It wasn't covered unless it was cancerous we paid out of pocket as well.

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Also I am diabetic nobody told me I should get my eyes tested. I have been wearing Dollarama glasses for about 10 years now (2.5) they work fine but without them I cannot read at all. I keep thinking my eyes are getting worse at one time I could read a bit without them now all I see is a blurr.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

I've been dealing with Type 2 for the last 15 years. My A1C floats around the 7.0 mark at any given time. I've also lost 50lbs. since I retired that's been a tremendous help. I allow my BSL to fluctuate between 6.9 and 9.6. My highest "spikes" can go to about 16 when I eat like an idiot. I'm using Jardiance daily and Ozempic once a week. You're right about it being a PITA. Watching what I eat and drink is quite the balancing act. It'll take you a while to get into the swing of things. Hint: Don't drink a lot of beer or garbage whisky that's distilled with a lot of sugar. Just drink the "good stuff".

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Definitely changes the way you look at food.
Trying to impress the doctor from going from extreme highs to possibly a normal range lol. Also just playing around with new meals figuring out what works and what doesn't. Picked up a half year supply of tester stripes found a good deal 27% off.

Eventually my plan is to keep figuring out fresh dishes so I don't have to test as often or just once and a while. It has been nice knowing many low carb friendly meals over the years it makes things a bit easier. My mom never understood it took her years to understand that's carbs equal sugar. I was 4.8 last night been trying to be in the 5s but I cheated the other night we took all the kids to see the new super Mario movie and was 7.8 when I got home. That's my last cheat night for the next month until I have my next test and talk to the doctor again.

On the bright side I will save a ton of money from fast food.

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

A few OHIP items were delisted under the Liberals in Ontario eye exams was one also Physiotherapy was reduced but I don't know about the some cancer tests, can't remember if that was before or after the Liberals. I think it was never covered.

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Yes they were covered and like most taken away it was Doug Ford that did it.

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

Also I am diabetic nobody told me I should get my eyes tested. I have been wearing Dollarama glasses for about 10 years now (2.5) they work fine but without them I cannot read at all. I keep thinking my eyes are getting worse at one time I could read a bit without them now all I see is a blurr.

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What are your suger levels.
The eye doctor said the high numbers changes the shape of the eyes and will cuase that blur . About 2 months ago I was like I think my eye are getting blurry but wasn't sure by the end of the week I was like yep they are definitely going blurry . By mid March I couldn't even see my paper work or read the nutritional information on a package. Wore those 1.25s for almost a week while waiting for my appointment then all of a sudden I didn't need them anymore after I got my numbers down.

Think it was 55 bucks for the diabetic test total exam was 160 something.

My wife knows a guy we went to school with went totally blind from diabetes.

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Originally Posted by fishfood

Definitely changes the way you look at food.
Trying to impress the doctor from going from extreme highs to possibly a normal range lol. Also just playing around with new meals figuring out what works and what doesn't. Picked up a half year supply of tester stripes found a good deal 27% off.

Eventually my plan is to keep figuring out fresh dishes so I don't have to test as often or just once and a while. It has been nice knowing many low carb friendly meals over the years it makes things a bit easier. My mom never understood it took her years to understand that's carbs equal sugar. I was 4.8 last night been trying to be in the 5s but I cheated the other night we took all the kids to see the new super Mario movie and was 7.8 when I got home. That's my last cheat night for the next month until I have my next test and talk to the doctor again.

On the bright side I will save a ton of money from fast food.

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Be very careful with low BSL,especially,in the evening. BSL could drop through the night to a very dangerous level while you sleep. I'm 6'2" 220lbs. While everyone is different depending on height,weight and BMI,a BSL of 4.8 puts me into a bad place quite quickly. You may notice that with TV advertising and some MD's like to use 5.8 as an "ideal",it's important to remember that one size definitely does NOT fit all. Your local health care center may have diabetic clinics with dieticians ready to assist with food type,preparation and portion control. Reach out and talk to them. Their expertise really helps.

I have a close friend that suffers from this and he has found that really watching his diet, getting daily exercise, keeping down his weight has made life much better for him.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Be very careful with low BSL,especially,in the evening. BSL could drop through the night to a very dangerous level while you sleep. I'm 6'2" 220lbs. While everyone is different depending on height,weight and BMI,a BSL of 4.8 puts me into a bad place quite quickly. You may notice that with TV advertising and some MD's like to use 5.8 as an "ideal",it's important to remember that one size definitely does NOT fit all. Your local health care center may have diabetic clinics with dieticians ready to assist with food type,preparation and portion control. Reach out and talk to them. Their expertise really helps.

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Yes my wife made me eat a meat stick last night with it that low at bed but I seem not to move much at night expect that dawn phenomenon uptick. Also not taking anything to lower it could helps because I'm not spiking it back down at any time. Haven't been lower than a 4.5 think that's been my lowest reading.

It's all new to me at this point of the game.

Thanks for all the pointers and tips



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These were taken away in early 2000 actually around 2004. I didn't realize Ford was the leader in 2004.'

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Yes they were covered and like most taken away it was Doug Ford that did it.

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I have a close friend that suffers from this and he has found that really watching his diet, getting daily exercise, keeping down his weight has made life much better for him.

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It's only been a month and am feeling much better ,loosing those unwanted pounds and still eating 3 healthy meals a day. I can see things I haven't seen in years lol. It was all in my belly as I have stated in the past I love my food and chocolate milk , still can with a bit of healthier choices not the chocolate milk tho it had to go.

I've talked to a couple people now that have Changed things around for the better from just a complete diet and lifestyle change.

It's the first rd I'm taking then go from there.

It's not a bad thing to cut the junk out.



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New law this week say seniors over 65 have to wait 18 months before not paying at the optician unless you have diabetes, glaucoma etc. - changed from 12 months . $140.00 if you want to go for an exam before 18 months. Wonderful .

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-c...ohip-1.6328851

How do you prove that you have Diabetes? I don't have anything except my medication.

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New law this week say seniors over 65 have to wait 18 months before not paying at the optician unless you have diabetes, glaucoma etc. - changed from 12 months . $140.00 if you want to go for an exam before 18 months. Wonderful .

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-c...ohip-1.6328851

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

How do you prove that you have Diabetes? I don't have anything except my medication.

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All Optometrists can get a diagnosis confirmation from your Doctor with your permission. Opthamologists are MD's. As such,as specialists,they have access to all your health records.

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

Also I am diabetic nobody told me I should get my eyes tested. I have been wearing Dollarama glasses for about 10 years now (2.5) they work fine but without them I cannot read at all. I keep thinking my eyes are getting worse at one time I could read a bit without them now all I see is a blurr.

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Don't put off the test, if it gets bad, you can go blind and there's no coming back from that.

Mine runs around 5.5 to 6.5 on the average day, sometimes higher in the morning. When I drop, I get the shakes, sweats, headache, tingly legs and blurry vision. When I sense that, a quick stab confirms I'm below 5.0 and have gone as low as 3.7, faceplant and wake up a few minutes later. A semi ripe banana around morning coffee keeps me steady. Getting rid of white rice, white bread, even the so called whole wheat is garbage.

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

These were taken away in early 2000 actually around 2004. I didn't realize Ford was the leader in 2004.'

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My research indicates the the cancer screening was previously covered and that was changed under the Ford government. As well as many other tests.

• Travel medicine, travel vaccine advice
• Physiotherapy (reduced/removed over the years: 1990's, 2004, 2005, 2013)
• Chiropractor
• Other health providers: massage therapy, naturopaths, acupuncture, osteopath
• Eye exams and vision services by an optometrist
• Dental work by a dentist
• Ambulance rides
• Cosmetic services
• Earwax syringe (removed Oct 1, 2019)
• Urine pregnancy tests (removed Oct 1, 2019)
• Pre-operative assessments (removed Oct 1, 2019)
• Sinus x-rays (removed Oct 1, 2019)
• Cardiac HOLTER (removed Oct 1, 2019)

De-listed Services from OHIP (getwellclinic.ca)

“Doug Ford’s Conservatives have appeared to quietly cancel a number of OHIP covered tests including cancer screenings which now cost $86,” the tweet read.


Ontario Ministry of Health says there are no changes to OHIP-covered blood tests (citynews.ca)