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Does anybody know of a breeder of The Korthals Whirehaired Pointing Griffon in Ontario? The closest to home I've found is in Quebec. After many years of careful decision I've finally decided that this breed will be my next and probably final dog.
Thanks.
Where ever you get your dog, make sure the breeder tests for PRA and dysplasia.
"Medical Information
Like many medium and large breeds, the Wirehaired Pointing Griffon is prone to Hip Dysplasia, which causes the head of the hip bone to no longer fit comfortably into the cup provided by the hip socket, causing lameness and arthritis-like symptoms. A similar condition called Elbow Dysplasia also affects the breed but with less frequency. The Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA) provides certification of breeding stock to help prevent the spread of these diseases, among others.
Various eye maladies can also affect some Wirehaired Pointing Griffons. Entropion and Ectropion (inward or outward turning eyelids, respectively) both exist in this breed. Entropion causes the eyelashes to rub against the lens of the eye causing extreme irritation; Ectropion causes the eyelids to droop, which exposes the eyes to infections and collection of debris. Griffs can also be affected by cataracts and Progressive Retinal Atrophy (PRA), a degeneration of the retinal resulting in eventual blindness." quote
You're not going to find a breeder in Ontario. I frequent an excellent Versatile dog forum. Many folks have a WPG. They could tell you of reputable breeders , maybe in Michigan or NY State.
http://www.versatiledogs.com/
Any reputable breeder will certify their breeding stock against these aliments, as they are common to most sporting breeds.
No breeders in Ontario. If you have spent years researching the breed, don't sell yourself short buy basing your decision on distance to the breeder.
The breeders in Quebec are some of the best in North America. I got my first Griffon in Quebec and have a deposit for my second in Quebec. PM me if you are looking for more info.
And maybe have your own eyesight tested too - problem I have with WPGs is, when retrieving, it can be awfully tough to tell where the beard ends and the bird beginsQuote:
Originally Posted by Sharon
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...d/100_1502.jpg
Think this one has all the clearances Sharon advised and then some, by way of Washington State. Really enjoying working with this pup - 4 mos. old, got a water entry like a Lab, and already putting paws to use on the odometer in getting out front of the guns and seems to be naturally steady to flush and shot. Reason the coat's wet in the shot above is the pup had just retrieved ducks and chukar before having a first go at pheasants.
As Sharon also noted, you'll find griff brethren at http://www.versatiledogs.com/ to give stronger recommendations.
MG
Exactly. I went to Quebec for my male Bourbonnais when I lived in Ontario and got my female from Arizona.Quote:
No breeders in Ontario. If you have spent years researching the breed, don't sell yourself short buy basing your decision on distance to the breeder.
I have met most of them and had my dogs judged by some as well, good guys.Quote:
The breeders in Quebec are some of the best in North America. I got my first Griffon in Quebec and have a deposit for my second in Quebec. PM me if you are looking for more info.
Mine came frome Lacewing Kennels just north of Marmora (north of Belleville), 9 years ago. I have not been able to connect with their old web site URL for a while and believe they are no longer breeding WPGs.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...7/IMG_0321.jpg
If they are no longer breeders, then try either Quebec or Alberta.
I may do a "drive by" in the next weeks and will let you know what I discover. I am curious on a source for pups as well.
../ Brian
Here is a breeder in Alberta
http://www.griffonpoint.com/
http://www.youtube.com/user/griffonpoint
../ Brian
Be prepared to be endlessly wiping up the floor after they drink....maybe a pair of indoor rubber boots too haha
A good link to get anyone started when looking for a new gun dog.
http://www.gundogbreeders.com/
I don't know if anyone has answered you but the only breeder in Ontario was a gentleman named Frank Miller from Marmora. I purchased my WHPG from him and about a year later he was gone. Frank bred great dogs, mine is now 10 years old and still acts like a two year old. Awesome dog love him. The only other breeders that I have heard of are the people in Quebec and there is a lady in Alberta that breeds them. Good luck, you won't be sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyman
I think this breeder is in Ontario: http://www.viphuntinngriffons.com/
Do not know anything about them.
I'm not trying to highjack the post and realize that your heart is set on a Wirehaired Pointing Griffon --- BUT --- allow me to suggest another breed as well . --- The German Wirehaired Pointer ! --- Their appearance and ability are ~ similar . They may be more widely distributed . I got mine from a breeder in the Maynooth area (during the 80s) . It was the best hunting-dog I ever owned . --- Pointing , retrieving (land or water) , chasing , steady to the gun etc. --- Absolutely fearless ; HE was only 78 lbs. but "outfought" dogs that were 50 lbs. heavier than him . --- They are very family-oriented and aloof with strangers . --- I'm not trying to sway your mind ; however , I'm sure you wouldn't be disappointed . --- What-ever you decide upon --- GOOD LUCK . --- During the 80s they were selling for $750 .
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check Armando Carlos in the Cambridge area, Ancient Kennels - Cesky Fousek
One of my co workers got a pup from this breeder. He sure is a handsome little guy. They have only had him for about a month. I believe it is in Ontario.Quote:
Originally Posted by spinster
Just starting doing my research on the Pointing Griffon and I remembered this thread. I'm probably at least 3 years away from owning another dog but figured it's never too early to get to know the breeders in the area.
If I settled on a specific breed I would not limit myself to Ontario.
There are no reputable breeders in Ontario to my knowledge. Best to switch forums to www.versatiledogs.com if you are serious about finding more info on Griffs.
You need to look at Quebec and New Brunswick. There has been some respectable Griff`s coming from that area.
Dick
I was at a hunt test a couple years ago that had a Quebec breeder. If I remember correctly he was a military guy? Anyway his dogs were very impressive to watch working. It's worth traveling to get the right dog. I went to Pennsylvania to pickup mine.
Could have been Gaby and Paige. They are just outside Fredericton (now). I went and met Gaby, saw his facilities and dogs, he was very helpful and I'll be working with him in the future, both through a new local NAVHDA group and one-on-one to help me move a long with my Brittany. Regardless, from what I saw, even though I'm limited in my experience, I think you'd get a great hunting dog there.Quote:
Originally Posted by terrym
http://www.griffontownkennel.com/
As was already said by Cass, if you are set on a breed that is not a common, best to consider a wider berth.
Gaby and Paige are very nice folk. I worked with 2 of their dogs in the recent past - very nice dogs. Also worked with 2 Griffs from AB years ago. Also nice dogs.
Both owners bought their dogs in pairs. ??
Of my limited experience, these dogs are very nice dogs with the most inquisitive personalities - very biddable, smart, capable and would suit novice to "mature" owners.
Note on Griffontown's website: Puppy buyers must have current hunting certificates.
Gotta love that!!
Appreciate all the posts folks! Excellent information:)
Attachment 32173Griffon at FD. (Click on pic)