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We bow hunt area 23. They dropped bull tags from 52 to 21 for a 60% drop. They then changed the gun hunt bull tags in the same area from 74 to 44 for a 40% drop. WTF are bow hunters more successful? You would think bow hunters are being discriminated against. Maybe my math sucks. I am one upset bowhunter.
Join the crowd! Not too many moose hunters are happy campers this year !
I see the 30 tags each, but the % are crazy out of wack. Saving the moose population is paramount. But lets be honest alot less success per person in archery than gun hunting. This about money in license revenues and votes.We do not even have a guarenteed group size as archers were gun hunters still have one.
Everyone seems to be taking a hit this year. Fairness does not seem to be a factor. Another upset moose hunter. B525
Bow hunters always get screwed when it comes to tags. Were a minority in the moose hunting world.
Ok so now I am really mad. Area 15b gets hit hard for tag reductions Gun bull this year 463 tags last year 879 for a differance of 416 tags. Bow bull this year 31 tags , last year 53tags for a differance of 22 tags. What the heck area 23, 30 each for gun and bow another area 15b, 416 and 22 respectively. What is going on? Sounds like one area works off a percentage and the other just a number assigned equally. Need some input so I can understand.
Sounds like someone outsourced the guesstimating down south like our licensing. Maybe they picked no's out of a hat!
That is silly funnie..... I would really like to see their rational (facts/findings) for coming up with the specific numbers. Transparency goes a long way.Quote:
Originally Posted by robster
The fact that they're using round numbers surely shows that there's no science or math to it.
And bowhunters pay the same for licenses as the gun guys. And they stay at the same camps, pay the same for gas, drive the same distances. etc etc ..
Why are not all units open to bowhunting. Especially in this day and age! Bowhunting is not something "new".
More bowhunters would mean fewer gun hunters as guys make the transformation.
A lower bow success rate seems logical to me that the MNR would be promoting this everywhere!
But like I stated earlier ... "no science - no math"
I've got a bag of hammers in the garage with more brains then what I have seen over the years!
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Originally Posted by SK33T3R
I'm not sure what you mean,here,Skeeter. Archery gear can still be used during the gun season,we just need to wear blaze orange. Do you mean ALL WMU's should be open for an "archery only" season before the gun hunt? How would that help this situation?
Yes I mean an archery season before the gun hunt!Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Most of the guys hunting in these "before the gun hunt - archery seasons" were gun hunters that made the transistion to try something different. Hunt the rut, wear camo, better weather, more elbow room, whatever!
Just the fact that they voluntarily LEFT the gun hunt makes more room and less competion for the die hard GUN HUNTERS.
AND if in fact the success rate for these same bowhunters is less then GUN hunters and they're happy with that. Then who suffers? No one. Outfitters, gas stations, grocery stores, etc etc add 3 more weeks on to the MOOSE HUNT CASH FLOW. And the best part is the MNR/GOV'T can still issue tags and get revenue!
Why this is not accross the board in all units is NUTS!
AGAIN I stand with my "bag of hammers" statement!
That's an interesting concept that might be worth investigating further. I sure agree with the "bag of hammers" comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by SK33T3R
Does anybody know who or how to complain about this sort of situation?
And in some WMU the archery only season tags come from the gun season tags known as Combined Quotas only certain WMU have a separate draw for gun and for bow.Quote:
Originally Posted by SK33T3R
My guess for the same amount of tags drop each is because that is when "non-residents" will come in hunt. In the gun season, not the bow season and that is where the MNR will make their money.