Bury your money and guns boys, the Huns are at the gates. I think it would take a miracle for Harper to win now.
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Bury your money and guns boys, the Huns are at the gates. I think it would take a miracle for Harper to win now.
http://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives...015/index.html
Number 3 in the polls, number 1 in your coffee mug
Already done boy and I'm gonna make up a tin foil hat so they can't read my thoughts. Sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by terrym
The Conservatives were at a disadvantage right from the get-go, for no other reason that they have been in power (including their minorities) for over a decade. Voters get fickle and fidgety; wanting change for no reason other than change. Its not right, but its reality.
Modern-era Federal politics has always swung between the Cons and Liberals and it will inevitably swing again. I accept that. What scares the h3ll out of me is the rising NDP popularity; they sure have cornered the vote of the naïve slacktivist crowd.
The NDP will be the next government. It will be a minority with no control of the Senate but yeah, socialists running the country.:scream:
The predictions are for the possibility of a minority government. Justin has already stated that he is not interested in a coalition with any party. I suspect that not much will get done until another election is called when parliament dissolves due to a non confidence vote.
As opposition in a minority JT will have quite a bit of power, especially when you factor in the Liberal Senators . Harper will resign right after the election if the Cons end up in 3rd place which looks very possible right now. We are in for a decade of Socialism.
I think that captures it pretty well.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninepointer
In general, change is good. if you have any government for more than 2-3 terms you'll see issues. people had to make decisions, and not everything is right in hindsight, and those in power are always on the defensive.
you can change the line-up, but people would not care (even notice). we are completely front-runner focused. there are those who will vote how their grandparents voted, a very small percentage will actually look into what a party stands for and is going to do if elected, for the rest (if they vote in the first place) it goes like this:
SH: in power for long, current situation not good, get rid of him
JT: looks, friendly, fresh - but kind of a dumb kid
TM: has some gray hair - not a kid, will bring change, let's go for him
Nietzsche said that democracy is bound to fail, because people are too stupid and selfish for it.
It goes in phases. There was a time when the Conservatives were decimated to a couple seats Federally after Mulroney but Harper is finishing up his 3rd mandate. Mulcair doesn't have the constitutional right to ammend the Senate like he says he will so he may never have control of it in his mandate, if he even appoints on Senator he will also be the hypocrite he accused Harper of being. That and a minority government means very little may get done. Harper is done, problem is I don't see any stars in the party to replace him.
Regardless of what party we all support use your fought after right to vote.
A Conservative candidate said to me that even if Harper is elected with a majority, they figure he has 2 years left at most.
There's a long time left in the campaign, more than enough time for one of the leaders to pull a "Hudak" and take himself out of contention.
certainly true.
but you also need to make a candidates mistakes public enough to impact the final outcome.
Look at the CBC and how they favour the Duffy case over more serious ongoing issue and you know what I mean
That's as long as it's not Harper. So far,the Conservative campaign has been a slo-motion train wreck. Harper needs to really jerk the re-election committee silly. The attack ads against Trudeau are getting tiresome. I mean,is that all they've got in such a target-rich environment? The Liberal's Del Mastro ads where he's in handcuffs and being hauled off to jail are right on the mark and then the two mooks that the Conservatives canned yesterday didn't help,either,along with the hype and horseshyte over the Duffy trial.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninepointer
We need to remember that from where we,as retirees and mostly upper income types who really don't need to worry too much about where our next paycheck may or may not come from,it's really easy to lose sight of the fact that the average Canadian family's income is well below the magic $50K and they're getting pounded by job losses,high credit card debt and carrying mortgages that are two payments away from foreclosure. These folks are pissed and who can blame them. There's a very rich breeding ground for leftist governments when this happens.
This one is way too tough to call. Polls have been all over the place and if you rembember the last Federal election the pollsters weren't even close to what the actual outcome was.. Our last Provincial election was all about ousting the Liberals and look what happened there. Insiders I've talked to still say Conservative minority.
I think a Conservative minority also, and a slim one at that. I also am convinced they will vote the government down at the first confidence vote.
I can't imagine 4 years of looking at Mulcair and that pasted on smile. Its the same smile a guy wears when his wife tells him the mother-in-law is coming to visit for a month.
I'd take the mother-in-law any day rather than the dipshyte spoiled rich kid or Mulcair?Quote:
Originally Posted by sawbill
So, can anyone tell me if my recap below is correct:
Conservatives - Harper has been somewhat of a bully in parlament, pushing some policies that a lot of people didn't support (Bill C51 for instance), has covered up senator expenses and seems two-faced, and ever so controlling. Has stripped environmental protection laws to nothing, and very little motivation to protect our lakes/fisheries. On the other hand he has reduced taxes, and tried to improve business environment to increase employment.
Liberals - have a very young party leader with very little experience. Wants to spend billions to prop up economy (Harper did this as well in round 1 of the financial meltdown in 2009/2010). Not sure if that is good or bad. I'm also not sure if they'll reinvest in protecting our environment, our lakes, our fisheries and wildlife programs - or will they remain at the same anemic levels (collapse of the salmon fishery in the west end of Lake Ontario - MNR WAKE UP)??? Liberals are proven to be corrupt (I still am pretty mad about the provincial parties +$1 billion scandal on the Oakville Gas Plant). He also supported Harper in a few key bills (C51 - takes away our constitutional right, only works in a perfect ALL ethical government and we have far from that, so expect abuse). Wants to tax the so called "rich" (I have a problem with that - let me explain - someone works hard, is smart, invests wisely, and now we penalize them??? That's a sure way to have someone say, screw it, it's not worth it, I'd rather be reliant on social support). I get curbing tax EVASION, but penalizing someone that earns more due to hard work and intelligence is a no go for me.
NDP - say they will balance the budget, but are promising to spend money left, right and center on various social initiatives. Doesn't add up. Taxes will likely go through the roof. We are ALL on the brink of unaffordability (house prices, food prices, taxes, gas). Party leader has some experience, and seems to be a pretty serious guy, but social policies and the spending as a result is a very scary thought. Where will it lead in terms of taxes, and the financial state of Canada?
Coming back to Bill C51 - so is this very conversation being monitored by government who will then ultimately alter their communications (not actions) to suit themselves, or even worse, do we end up in a draconian state, where they identify you and suppress you, in order to ensure they encourage their voter base? That's why I don't like C51 and Harper and Trudeau were both behind it. The control they want is WAY too much, and in the wrong hands, will be very dangerous. C51 is a great law in a perfectly run, ethically estute government. But we all know there are bad apples, who will abuse this power, for their own selfish good. This is my main hesitation voting for either Conservatives or Liberal. That leaves NDP - and they will probably bankrupt the country. Awsome choices, not.
You've pretty much got it nailed except for this last paragraph. These kind of "controls" are specifically designed to uncover covert communications by radical terrorists already in the country and protect us from "home-grown" radical terrorism. The saving grace in this omnibus bill is the severe penalties for any form of abuse. There is also stringent and strict oversight built into it. The media would have us believe that we sold our first unborn children,but,I believe the only reason they're whining and ing is that they see it as an attempt to stifle free speach because it could curtail their use of "informants" or "reliable sources",if you will which,to me,is a crock of BS.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
I don't get where the Conservatives have "covered up " senate expenses as mentioned in a previous post. The Conservatives are the only party in my memory, that has gone after and rooted out improper senate spending !!!! As far as C51, if you think the government is monitoring all our conversations, you need to tighten your tinfoil hat !
Well said !Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
and don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out, Stevie!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i43vLFj3qAo