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...and how are we going to ever achieve this goal?
well we could increase our building standards, which would create jobs including PS for additional regulation, more taxes (carbon tax, fuel tax, something new tax, etc.) or even better we do what he (who else could it be...) said at the summit last week:
"Indigenous people have known for thousands of years about how to care of our planet. The rest of us have a lot to learn, and no time to waste.”
no joking as always a clear and definitive strategy - propaganda!
I suppose if we went back to a population density and technology level in Canada when indigenous people were the only ones in this country, our damage to the environment would be minimal. I guess that means millions of Canadians will need to be wiped out. Any volunteers for this little project?Quote:
Originally Posted by Waftrudnir
Yes and indigenous people have proven to be such efficient stewards of the resources right? The slaughter and waste of non marketable fish in the Lake Nippising nets is only one example. Shooting deer in the Shawanaga deer yards, spearing walleye on the spawning beds.........yup real good stewards of nature.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dythbringer
ah details - who cares...Quote:
Originally Posted by terrym
despite the used the a-word (i.e. accountable), Canada (or anyone for that matter) cannot and will not be held accountable. we also do not need a detailed plan on how we would even dream of achieving this goal - he already did achieve his goal!
seriously, besides positive headlines, now they have a justifiable reason for increasing taxation (in whatever form).
and to come back to the natives have done such a great job for thousands of year, so did all the Europeans for thousands of years too. for example, the Spanish Inquisition didn't harm the environment, so why not have another one? and to be fair to everyone, let's take another absurd religious interpretation this time?
He must mean way back in the day when indigenous people were using such efficient means of sustenance hunting like buffalo jumps or pushing deer into rivers and then clubbing them while they swam. But I guess if you honor the animal afterwards with a spiritual ceremony around firelight some politician 400 years later will say you and your tribe mates took care of the land. Don't get me wrong. I am not slandering indigenous peoples, simply politicians who use them as tools to promote their agenda. The indigenous peoples used whatever techniques they had to in order to survive. However, let's not revise history to make it seem like they were a group of good guardians of the land.Quote:
Originally Posted by terrym
We can't have another Spanish Inquisition. There were non-believers burned at the stake so that would leave a carbon footprint.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Waftrudnir
stoning - well proven reusable resourceQuote:
Originally Posted by Dythbringer
Now, what stoning are we talking about? The stoning of the unfaithful wife or Trudope's stoning?
Being hunters and dedicated conservationists and seeing as how we all know how to survive under extreme adverse conditions,why don't we just STFU,let the tree huggers and environazis shut down the oil sands,nuke plants,generating stations and all our vehicles. Then,we can all head for the bush and let the useless fkreus freeze in the dark.
The ones who can't take care of themselves will position themselves so we will have to take care of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
So the finance minister has said the "middle class tax cut but increase the taxes on the rich" plan will cost something rather than be "revenue neutral". It seems that it will cost the government $1.2 Billion/year over the next 5 years because, wait for it, the rich are creative in finding ways to reduce their taxable income. Despite the die hard Trudeau supporters, did anyone really think this plan would have been revenue neutral like the Great White Dope promised? Further more only 9 million Canadians will benefit from this plan. That is right, out of 35.16 million Canadians, about 1/4 of the people will benefit from this "fairness" election pitch. I suppose the people rest of Canadians (minus the 319 000 taxpayers who earn more than $200 000/year) are SOL.
On top of that, because the slow economic growth, the government now is talking about having a $25 Billion deficit over 3 years rather than the promised $10 Billion. Where did these clowns ever learn how to count or learn if you have slower than forecasted economic growth, don't go spending money like you are a sailor on shore leave for the first time in 8 months. If this is how it is going to be for the first month and a half on the job, I shudder to think what Canada will be heading to in four more years.
Blame the voters. They chose him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dythbringer
Blame Harris !!!!! LolQuote:
Originally Posted by terrym
The Federal Liberals won't be able to adopt that philosophy because then the Provincial Government won't have anything to fall back on.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
Liberals never let the numbers get in the way of crazy promises and schemes. Just forge ahead and consequences be damned and if you disagree with them you must be a homophobe .
Or hiding behind racism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter John
someone else having those childhood memories: Ever been on a bicycle without brakes going downhill?
Once it picks up speed, its going downhill pretty fast - don't try to stop it, it makes things just worse...
The sooner we get there, the better. Until then, hold on for your life and brace for impact...
More like going down a snow covered hill with a crazy carpet and knowing there is barbed wire at the bottom of the hill...Quote:
Originally Posted by Waftrudnir
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Dythbringer
...fond memories... somehow we survived after all.
You know I was planning on planting vegetables for the last two years; maybe I really should start practicing!
"Political signal". Key words. As usual, besides emotion it's all "styling and profiling." No substance just fluff, rainbows, and fairy dust and that brown stuff in the center...bullchit.
After watching yesterdays news, we find out that that benefit will only be about $600.00 dollars per year, WOW!.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dythbringer
Well Dyth, I hate to give you more bad news...but because of the way our tax system works, those making over 200k also get the "middle class tax break" for the income they earn in that range. Those making over 200k pay more on the 200k+ but less on the lower income. The break-even point is somewhere around 217K, I think. Thus even those in the 200-217K get JT's middle class tax break.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dythbringer
Not really bad news in my opinion. I am a firm believer of letting the people keep as much of their money as possible. I don't mind paying my fair share but it seems the government and I have a very large difference of opinion of what constitutes a fair share. What I don't think some governments in our country realize is if the average joe has more money in their pockets, they will more than likely spend some of it on consumption (whether it be dinner with the wife, a nicer car, etc) which generates money in the tax coffers. The more money the government takes away from people, the tighter people start to hang on to the remainder.Quote:
Originally Posted by werner.reiche
As for the rich getting a bit of that tax break, it really doesn't bother me (my point was more for the fact the campaign promise was to be "revenue neutral"). What a lot of people don't understand is "rich people" purchase more luxury items (or purchase more of everything such as trips) than the rest of the middle class which is taxed out the wazoo. However, jealousy usually clouds people's minds when they see someone driving a "fancy car" or buying nice jewelry or going away on vacation without realizing those purchases are taxed not only on the sales but more than likely getting dinged because they are luxury items.
Dyth
Which her highness Queen Wynne will no doubt take from you....Quote:
Originally Posted by jaycee
Wouldn't it be something if the people who benefit from the tax break turn around and send it to the Conservative Party of Canada? LOL!
Whatever tax break you get from the Feds will be clawed back by Wynne. Add up the increases in Hydro ( which will get worse now that she's selling it off ), the Carbon taxes which will cause inflation and so will the Ontario pension scam and you will find your net disposable income is eroding. Less money for you to live on. It truly is mind boggling how people don't know how to count and manage finances.
Exactly Terry.
http://www.torontosun.com/2015/12/07...eau-takes-away