Your Hunting public land you come across 2 pop up blinds a bait pile and chairs... keep going? Or have a seat?
I kept going..
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Your Hunting public land you come across 2 pop up blinds a bait pile and chairs... keep going? Or have a seat?
I kept going..
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Depends how long they might have been there, if they look like they have been sitting awhile and could be considered abandoned I might take a seat. But they look as if they are pretty new at that site considering the apple pile, in which case I would not take a seat.
Public land, do what ever you want.
X 2 as Gilroy said. If there is still bait it's either being used and freshened or not deer eating the bait. Either way unless it's the only place around to hunt I would move on and let the other hunter have their spot
Surprisingly I agree with Gilroy. If it looks like it is being used. I would probably leave it alone. Yes it's public land and yes you can take it, but in my book it's wrong.
As far as I'm concerned finders is not keepers if it's not yours no matter where it is .Let whomever / whatever is in charge know & they take it from there if you feel it's wrong or shouldn't be there . Luck
Wasn't talking about taking it... was talking about using it or not.... taking would be theft.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossh
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The land may be public but the gear is private property. Just like tree stands on public land, if you don't own it it's not yours to use.
Just move on and find my own spot out of respect for the early bird that got the worm.
Leave it and move to a different area. Public land or not, I would not interfere with someone else's hunt ... who knows, they may have just gone for some lunch or have forgotten something in the truck and will return shortly.
Dust keep going and find your own spot
Personally, I give a wide berth around other hunters, or in this case other hunter's stuff, when I hunt public land... I am of the opinion that if it's not mine, I leave it alone and move on...
Not been lazy, keep going!
But, next year I might look at the area a little closer to see the potential.
Not to hijack, but how about game cams? If you stumbled across one, would you open it, then remove and view the memory card pictures on your phone/tablet and then replace?
Keep going. It's just good manners.
Would you want someone hunting your spot if you have been baiting it since October? Probably not...
I am being a real dik here but..........
Leave it and hunt somewhere else, maybe hunt some other crown land..........
If I find the crown land first I should be able to do as I please on it and not worry about other hunters interfering with my hunt. I like to find crown land and put as many stands up as possible just to discourage others from hunting this public land. Maybe next year get in there early, say, August, put tree stands all over the place so you can keep the place to yourself after all, crown land belongs to the first person that places a tree stand or apple pile or pale next to a tree.
Crown land in southern Ontario is so rare that individuals leaving tree stand/blinds etc.... are selfish and lazy....
What happened to leave no footprint behind
I would not hunt it either and just move on. Everyone should try and live by the "leave no footprint behind" especially on public land......
"Leave no footprint behind" to me is not a daily thing. You setup a site for the season and when you are tagged out you take it out. I mean how would you hunt bear, as an example. First come first serve...Quote:
Originally Posted by fratri
We are talking southern Ontario where crown land is scarce. Most parcels of crown land (and we only have a dozen of these or so around here) down here are less than 100 acres that are surrounded by private property. Northern Ontario crown land is not the same as Southern Ontario crown land....Quote:
Originally Posted by seabast
I'd feel badly that I just stunk their spot out but hey its public land. I would give it a wide birth as I hope others would if it was my stuff.
Sorry topher miss read my bad . Still wouldn't use , not mine .
Move out of that area, I am not going to spoil someone else's hunt
The answers given by the posters of this thread shows you guys have good hunting ethics.
This year, as in the past, my problems have been with non resident hunters who show up for a weeks hunt and move right in to our setups and hunt within 50 yards of our site. They find the bait and go down the deer trail and set up under a tree.
I would keep going. but that's mostly based on land quantity. i know that i don't have to crowd anyone where i hunt, so i will just move along.
Yup, I would just move along as well, they were there first, as long as they are hunting it ....
Move along. You never know whos hunt you're ruining and what kind of mood they're going to be in once they see you there.
If that's the case I should be able to set up my duck blind on public land and to be able to use it at my leisure all duck season. However it is an understood rule, if you build a duck blind on public land it's yours for opening day only. If you come back the next day and find it occupied, you leave, and find somewhere else to duck hunt, in a location that will not interfere with those using the blind that you spent your time and sweat to build for opening day. Having come across some pretty unsightly messes on crown land, the notion of "Leave no footprint behind" rates at the top of my hunting ethics, as it should all hunters. If I came across what you have suggest on public land, I definitely would not hunt there, however I would immediate report the situation to the MNRF, I'm sure they might like to talk to whoever left things behind. Yes, there is always one of us out their, so make sure you cleanup when you leave.
If you wish to monopolize a piece of land, you would do well to get a deed for it, that way you get an added opportunity to deal with those, who have difficulty understanding the meaning of No Trespassing signs.
You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut
This is a no-brainer. Move along. One never knows if the pop-ups are occupied. Walking up on someone's watch? We've all,at some time,had some doofus walk in on us and bust our hunt,even when they can clearly see us. There's no excuse for such conduct.
Yup walk on by.
Maybe its my age or my location, but I would probably unload my gun, leaving the action open and have a seat while I waited to see if anyone showed up. If so it would give us a chance to chat and compare hunts if they were so inclined. I can always leave after they show up if I'm not welcome.
Most of my life I have fished and hunted lonely areas where strangers normally stop and chat, comparing and learning about the area.
Leave it alone and move on.
A few years back three of us had really good baited setups on public land. Winter had come early and the bait was being hit regularly. If you sat for 3 or 4 hours on one of these spots, chances were good that you would see some deer. It was a lot of work... we were going in on snowshoes, carrying our gear and pulling bait behind us on a sled. Took about 1.5 hours to drive there and get set up. We were only hunting these stands once or twice a week to keep pressure minimal.
A couple of weeks into it, it became apparent that another group was using our stands when we weren't. They were going in on a snowmobile and usually sitting at the base of the stand so they could make a quick exit if we showed up. Sometimes even when we were there, they would come in after us and hang back on some of the trails that were leading to the baits. We would see their tracks afterwards. One day I went in and found some blood and a frozen gut pile and backtracked the shot to my stand.
It was frustrating but what can you do? There was nothing illegal about what they were doing, but they were putting added pressure on our spots and basically reaping the rewards from our hard work. In the end I left a note on my stand in a ziploc bag. Sort of not-so-politely pointing out the fact that it's a large tract of public land and obviously you have the use of a snowmobile, so go and set up your own bait site somewhere else. Nothing really came of it. They continued the cat and mouse act of hunting our setups and our deer sightings became less frequent (we were down to buck tags and many bucks had already dropped their antlers that year). If I remember correctly, I believe that in the last days of that season my BIL (who did still have an antlerless tag) managed to arrow a good sized buck that had already dropped his antlers
Yes, public land is first come first serve and there to be used by all, but that's no excuse to be a lazy, inconsiderate jerk. I leave others' active spots alone and sort of expect that the same will be done for me, but that's not always the case. Mutual respect goes a long way.
Well said.
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Originally Posted by GW11
Where's the like button.... good postQuote:
Originally Posted by patvetzal
Should I also throw in the fact this particular parcel is only about 50-75 acres...
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I suppose if they set up a spot on a parcel that small, they would have to expect a certain amount of hunter traffic. It's still big enough to find another place to sit, and it sounds like you did.Quote:
Originally Posted by topher
Yup just walk on by.
I would also just keep on walking. If I was there everyday and nothing looked like it was being used after a few weeks-month then maybe take some other action.
Active bait pile, could be doing a early morning then a evening hunt and not taking their stuff with them.
Not mine to take or use, but may put a waypoint in my GPS for future hunts
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Has any body said this is an active hunt sight/spot by the people that have set up there? If you frequent the area and it's not being used, I would use it, and not get into a pissin match if they show up, just move on, public land yes, private use of it no....
not enough good spirited folks like you in the southern ontario public lands. these days i've switched my game to waterfowl and small game for that reason. better to have a chat and not take life so seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by patvetzal
although i'm sure the best move is to keep going as to not get beat up by a group of hunters assuming that spot belongs to them.
Bait pile looked fresh... trail cam appeared dead.(did not open to check. Just no counter).. there was no one else in the bush when I got there (parking lot) and none else when I left... I frequently this Parcel.. and haven't seen this before... although it's not an area I go often... I just had coyotes walking at my more normal spot so decided to so some still/walk hunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by bdog
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Go to where you were headed when you left the truck
If that is 75 yds from the bait or 500 that's where your instincts told you to be
if you are close by and someone shows make sure they know you're there and they can make their own judgement as what to do
What about a duck blind built by someone on a public marsh?Quote:
Originally Posted by TPM
Do you have permission to be on the "private" marsh in the first place? If you do and no one else is using it,go nuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duckguy
Sorry, I meant public marsh.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
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Originally Posted by Gun Nut
Out of respect to people who already taken the time to reply should read the entire thread might find the answer on your ownQuote:
Originally Posted by Duckguy
As a couple of others have mentioned here - what is the difference with this crown land situation and a duck blind. Everyone knows a duck blind is fair game on public land - first come, first serve. Why is this different? Ethically I think its OK to use it and if the owner shows up then you politely say "how ya doin? Then get up and leave so he can hunt there.
Otherwise this person has made a claim on a relatively small piece of land he doesn't own. That's not right. He may not show up for numerous days and you can't hunt there? IMHO
move on and happy new year to all of you
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Originally Posted by Roper
If it was just the blind would say hunt it however if there is active baiting may keep on going. Same with a duck blind after the opener if there are decoys out may keep on going if its just a blind in the area I want to hunt I'm there.
Do not do anything to others that you do not want others to do to you
Yes but that works both ways......don't take over the public land and don't take over someone's hunting spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by cuulguy
Leaving decoys out when you're not hunting is douchey at best.Quote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
I'm not sure the duck comparison is a good one. There are limited spots to put a duck blind on a lake. If everyone constructs a blind the spot becomes an eyesore. I'd suggest thats why it's first come first occupied. Goose hunting permission is often just granted for the night you ask the landowner. Different set of rules iMO.
I think you'd be justified in hunting the deer farther away from their setup and bait pile. 200 yards away for example. Public land is limited and staking it out by putting up a ground blind and a bait pile does RESERVE your spot. It's similar to the ethics of sitting in someone's ladderstand on public land.
So. . If 10 people but bait piles in this particular 50 acre tract I guess I can't hunt there? As it's own theirs? Really? That's the most idiotic.theory ever....Quote:
Originally Posted by DanO
This particular tract of land has a tree stand practical every hundred yards.. today I was there I counted 15 different bait stands setup...
I can't be more than 300yds from any bait stand... so I guess this bush I been Hunting very regular for the few years and I spend a lot of time preseason scouting on is off limits as a few people decided it's there bush?
Oh.. BTW I never see anyone Hunting these bait piles... with were all fully today...
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Originally Posted by Duckguy
It's the same thing,even moreso. If no one is using it,set up and enjoy. If someone shows up,it's their turn to "move on".
Same deal,topher. If no one is around,I'd hunt it in a heartbeat. Setting up a bunch of stands to monpolize or lay claim to an area is BS.Quote:
Originally Posted by topher
I agree... using someone's property. .. pop up blind or purchased stand is off limits.. but a bait pile... or a built tree stand (especially when they are prohibited in the forests) open season. ..Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
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I'm going to hazard a guess here but I think this is more a southern Ontario thing with such a small amount of crown land. Even in the Ottawa area I have never had an issue with crown land people seem to respect each others active hunting spot and the further north you go there is no reason to hunt where you see someone else is actively hunting.
I don't understand why you would start such a thread as you already have your mind set. Use their bait and blind so you don't have to pay for it or whatever but don't be surprise if there is consequences.
Consequences? Such as?Quote:
Originally Posted by seabast
I am going to put a bench I made in my local park, that way I always have my spot. No need to get there early for the fireworks or the local concerts. My park bench will reverse my spot for me.
Even though I do not agree, I will throw one out there, .......flat tires on your truck when you come out. Some folks are very protective of the spots they think they have exclusive use of.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Thank you for the kind donation you made to YOUR local park. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by fratri
Really, are you living in Candyland? Have you seen the video of the two guys fighting on boxing day for a parking spot!?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
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Originally Posted by fishermccann
ROFLMAO! Yep,I guess the hunting community has it's fair share of "the stupids",doesn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by seabast
move on to the next spot, for god sake don't use somebody's stuff!!!
Wow sounds like a real productive spot!!!!! Why would you even want to hunt this parcel of land if there is that much pressure put on it, 15 stands and bait sites on a small parcel of land??? Ya don't think I would waste my time setting up my own stand/blind let alone sitting in someone eases. Put some gas in your truck, knock on some doors and find a spot with a little less pressure.....maybe you will actually have some success. Personally don't understand how anyone who hunts in SW Ont. can only rely on the few public spot that are here and are always over run...........is it laziness?? Spend more time scouting, less time posting trolling threads on the internet...........
Oh and ya if I was to rely on hunting public land and came across someones setup I would not be taking a seat, I would be moving on to find a spot less pressured!
would you want to have someone take your hunting spot? No? well don't do it your self
Well - I'll tell you what I would do - it some guy put up a stand on public land and wasn't using it I would sit in it - if the guy who put it up came along I would leave and let him use it - if he wasn't using it why not use it yourself - no harm done - as far as a bait pile goes - deer need to travel to the pile so if you pick out a trail leading to the pile you don't have to sit right on top of it -
Many years ago a buddy of mine put up a wooden tree stand on public land - one day when he went to use it some other guy was sitting in it - my buddy told the guy that he put it there and wanted to use it - the guy sitting in the stand kept ignoring him - so my buddy starting building a fire at the base of the tree - the other guy got out of the tree stand when the smoke started getting to him -
Now,that's funny,right there LOL Happy New Year!Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
Not directed at you Joe, but......Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
If I understand this thread correctly..... If I build a tree stand on public land, its mine to use whenever I want. I can lay claim to this spot/area anytime of day. I don't have to be the first one there? If this is correct, (sarcasm coming) this is great.... I can build a few tree stands on a few different public lands down here over the summer and have a guaranteed stand and area to hunt to myself anytime of day... all on public land too.... wow silly me, all this time I thought public land down here was for all to use and not lay claim to it, I guess I have been doing it all wrong..... Thanks for clearing things up for me. (sarcasm ends)....
This is just plain, silly....
Don't build it in the first place and/or take it out with you when you leave....it's public land, not my private land because I erected a tree stand.
The truly lazy people are not the ones looking for a place to hunt, its the guys/gals they have found one and are too lazy to take their gear off the public land after each hunt. Remember the OP is talking, southern Ontario, which equals small acreage blocks surrounded by private land. We are not talking big Northern bush lots here...
Never use a tree stand where they're prohibited because saying "It's not my stand,Officer" ain't gonna cut it. If you're in it,it's yours. YOU get the tickey and the bill for removal whether it's yours or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by topher
the topic was about using other people's blinds was mentioned as a discussion.. I know what I would/did do..Quote:
Originally Posted by seabast
I see lots of deer there.. just never the ones I have tags for.. you have any idea how difficult land is to get around here? majority of properties here are people that came from the city and would take let you hunt.. I have properties but I'm only allowed to hunt geese... no ducks.. no coyote... just geese.. (crop damage)..Quote:
Originally Posted by duckslayer
so before you call someone lazy for using public land maybe think he / she just can't get land near them to hunt.
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Years ago I found 3 guys using MY duck-blind on "opening-day" . I'd built it the week before and left my name on it . There were no other blinds within 1/4 mile each way . When they refused to leave I anchored my boat ~ 50' away from them . I reversed my jacket as well as my hat to show the blaze-orange side . Every time a "speck-in-the-sky" became visible I stood up and moved around . Needless to mention that no ducks approached us close enough to warrant any shooting . --- 3-4 hrs. later they "got the drift" and moved on . --- Just to be sure I'd kept an eye on them and my gun ready . --- On account of a lot of foul language I'd invited them to meet me on shore but they didn't take me up on it . --- To me it would've been a "sparring-session" without having to go to the club .
X2 on the sparring session.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunner 38
How I see it you were being as big of an azz as they were. gun ready? brawling? Is that what we have been reduced to? Sure would be nice if sportsman respect each other but to they same extent don't be cavemen about it. Quite honestly your behaviour was worst than theirs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunner 38
I had an issue this year we were on private property that had been hunted 5-6 years previously. The guy came back this year and asked my aunt and uncle for permission to hunt even tho we were already there with a blind and cameras so they gave him mine and my bros number and told me to sort it out....this azzhole left a drunken message on my brothers phone accusing us of stealing his spot even tho its my uncles damn farm and he hadnt hunted it in years but when he saw we were hunting it he got jelous and wanted a piece of the action. After hearing the message he left my bro I called him up and we had a 1 sided conversation that entailed me ripping him a new bum hole and told him if he was nice and polite we could have party hunted but instead hes a drunk loser so I kicked him out of the spot for good...but to what the others said its a respect thing just move on...even tho its public land and you could assume the equipment was abandoned we all know what the right thing to do it...some just chose to be bird doggin axeholes
From what I remember about hunting ducks and blinds is.....opening day that blind belonged to the builder hence why the name is left.....after opening day it's fair game first come first serve. That was the unwritten code of ethics I remember and I think the same should go with tree stands. It's public land use it like its public.....first come first serve. Seriously no one gets to CLAIM a spot on public land or water for the entire season.
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Like what my brother said hunting spots are like women...YOU DONT SHARE...go find your own spot instead of robbing the people who put in the hard work. It may not be illegal but I may punch your teeth out for using my stuff and ruining my chances and all my hard work and effort which is not legal however personally satisfying...your choice and your risk..and I know guys who would do alot worse to ya...Its all about respect...if you ask to share thats different and I would welcome anyone to party hunt with me but if you self centeredly up and take my spot no problem it is legal but I will find your vehicle and make sure you have a nice long walk homeQuote:
Originally Posted by anglerss17
Well KEYBOARD-NINJA , you are obviously too moronic to assess the situation . Take your medication and don't bother others with your wimpy opinions . --- Instead of wasting space on the web learn how to spell .Quote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
I think thats perfect actually...you steal my spot I would do the same and scare you off...if not your going to return tomorrow so better make sure I do something you wont forget. Respect is earned and not given to those who do not give back.PERIODQuote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
Seriously.....you're on public land buddy not your property and to put up a blind or tree stand on public land you're doing it at risk of other residents of this province using it. Your woman is your woman........a hunting spot on crown land is up for grabs. You sound like the type of guy who would be pissed about using your parking spot at a mall that you used last weekend. Touch my personal belongings because I used a spot on public land....COWARD. IM RIGHT THERE TO CONFRONT....I'm using it not damaging it.Quote:
Originally Posted by GrizzlyAdams
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Wow, a lot of mean and angry people on here.....
If everyone respected the spot, non of this would be an issue.....
Shut her down MODS! lol
Unless you own the land you have no right to claim it, period.
Wow. Disagree that the purpose of the POL was civil disarmament, and your posts are removed and the thread is shut down. Speculate about future used firearms values and some self-appointed moderator tells you to keep it on topic.
But advocate committing a crime over a hunting spot, and that's A-okay.
I dont think you know the first thing about me but you can speculate all you want if that makes you happy. How many times in my post did I say its perfectly legal and you can do it I just dont and wouldnt disrespect somebodys set. Would you take an animal from a trap line too just cause its public land...Try telling that to a trapper..same thing. im free to my own opinion just as you are but no need to call me out and try and tell me what kind of person I am. No need to judge this is an open forum where opinions drive conversation if you cant get around that and insist on judging others and assuming the kind of person I am maybe forums arent for you. I have every right to my opinion and have expressed it the way I feel and you may not like that but hey thats life and if everyone had the same opinion it would be a very bland place. No place here for name calling so if you cant run with the big dogs then sit on the porch and keep quiet.Quote:
Originally Posted by anglerss17