Anybody start treating their dogs for ticks yet? Next week looks pretty warm and I have seen flying insects this week in the woods. Damned ticks must be starting to get active I would think?
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Anybody start treating their dogs for ticks yet? Next week looks pretty warm and I have seen flying insects this week in the woods. Damned ticks must be starting to get active I would think?
Starting this weekend. Advantix II on both dogs.
I started in March . My vet treats her dogs all year, and I may start the same with the unpredictable winters here. If there is any green showing , there are fleas/ticks.
My guys have been wearing Seresto collars since end of January
I started a few days ago with NexGard. Vet said she has already had a couple of dogs brought in with ticks.
I started mine on Bravecto yesterday and I think I'm going to start doing 12 months of the year as well. Unless I hear a downside to it.
Bravecto is a once every 12 week pill.
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Started this morning. Both dogs got Advantix 2.
Plus I will use Permethrin on my clothes while scouting for Turks this weekend.
Yes, its been a mild spring
I started today (same time as last year, although last year was warmer at this time) and I'll start the Heartgard in a couple of weeks.
Picking my dogs meds up tomorrow.
Just received a reply from my vet in the states and asked if she carries Seresto and they do not. They carry another flea and tick collar called Scalibor for a 6 month protection at $49.00 U.S I may try that. The TSC in the U.S is charging $59.00 for the Seresto collar. Liberty flea and tick liquid application is on sale for $9.99 and is similar to Advantix II but the Liberty 50 star rating is very low. My brother used it on his labs with success. Will treat the dogs with ivomec this summer as well much cheaper than heartguard.
Although a little more money have heard nothing but extremely good things about the Seresto collar. If I was going to go with a collar this would be the one (very positive reports from those training and trailing on both sides of the border ... pro and amateur alike)
YD if you're close to the border you can order the Seresto collars for $44.95 from any of the following:
-chewy.com(usually free shipping)
-Amazon.com
-Drs Foster and Smith
Drive across and pick up
Sue, you're right almost all dogs I see on the circuit are wearing them in the south
PS..for the small cost of ivermectin, mine receive it 12 months.
...Spoke with Bayer(makers of Seresto) Canada recently, they have an application pending here in Canada to retail the collar.
YD...you'll have to explain to me how both products use the same active ingredient, but one is not as good as the other :whacked:.
Infact Liberty 50 uses 50% Permethrin and Advantix is only 44%...
I've been using Liberty 50 for many years and have never had fleas of ticks on my dogs and they are free range farm dogs.
Our (city) vet has us on revolution but they won't sell us year round doses so we "have to" do the heart worm test every spring. ... We'd like to just use something year round and be able to source it ourselves. We'd prefer drops or pills not collars. Any suggestions on what to use and where to get it?
Well that's no good.... Not a ton of ticks where we are but I did have to pull one off of our mutt last spring because we were out before starting the rev again. That was the only time I've had to deal with a tick so not sure if the Rev was working previous years or he just didn't find one.
Not at all, the only option we've been given was revolution so I'm just curious as to other options. My understanding was that if you give revolution year-round you never have to worry about heart worm, but if you stop at some point you must test before restarting.
That's right!
A vet that only carries Revolution ??? I'd be looking for a new vet if it were me Rugger.
All year use of Revolution may mean no blood check before using Heartgard in June , but the chances of lyme disease from deer ticks is huge. I want that blood check for heartworms every year, as Heartgard can kill your dog if those worms are present already. Not a chance I want to take ; only takes one mosquito.
My vet also only carries revolution... that's why I don't buy tick meds there.
Yes i am aware they are the same active ingredient with the Liberty 50 being 50 % and higher than the Advantix. The rating was off of the TSC U.S.A website. The only thing I can think of is the Advantix may have another ingredient added besides Permethrin for better results. This could be the reason for the increased cost of the Advantix compared to the low cost of Liberty 50. The same thing would apply when herbicides & pesticides are applied to weeds or insects in some cases another product is added for better or higher kill rate. An agent is added to prevent from washing off after a rainfall .
The advantix II has an improved water resistance than the older version so yes it's not just the permethrin that matters.
Thanks for confirming that Terry !
Well since the 2nd active ingredients in the both products....Pyriproxyfen (Liberty 50) and Imidacloprid (Advantix) are basically both pesticides....that reasoning doesn't hold much value...at least not worth the extra cost.
Imidacloprid is a systemic insecticide which acts as an insect neurotoxin and belongs to a class of chemicals called the neonicotinoids which act on the central nervous system of insects, with much lower toxicity to mammals
Pyriproxyfen is a pyridine-based pesticide which is found to be effective against a variety of arthropoda.
Once you have applied the product, it's gets absorbed into the skin, being waterpoof is pointless unless you plan on applying it and then sending them out in the rain....we put it on before the go to bed at night so no danger of that happening :)
I'm not sure what you folks pay for Advantix now, I'm assuming it more than $120 for two months but when you can get the same coverage for $20 for 2 months you have to ask yourself why ?
My brother used the Liberty 50 with good results . I paid $50 U.S from my vet for 3 months Advantix II and she would throw in a bonus month for free. The proven Seresto collar seems to be the best value for up to eight months and would be cheaper than the Liberty 50. Seresto it will be !
I thought about the Seresto, but I don't want my dog wearing 3 collars in the fields.
I pay $120 for a 6 month supply of Advantix II. Get it from my vet with Heart Gaurd. I know it works great and my dog can't walk by a body of water without jumping in. I have never picked a tick off of him and places I hunt are full of them.
I also have used Advantix 2 for the last three years with great results ... I pay $16 from my vet per tube (once a month).
Lorenzo
I'm outraged that in the US you can buy a Tick/flea product that works identically, in the Pet Care isle at the Feed store, for $20 for the year....but in Canada you have to pay for a vet visit..$70+..plus another $120+ for a product that contains the same chemicals and does the same thing.
Why are people so complaisant with this, it's obviously huge money grab by the veterinarian community. There is NO substantial reasoning for it.
and I'm not alone...http://thechronicleherald.ca/busines...lea-medication
I think people need to wake up and boycott purchasing these overpriced products thru your vet and order them on-line. The same product shouldn't cost x4 or x5 more because you buy it in the vets office.
If your interested in seeing some of the background as to why these 'spot-on' products are controlled and overpriced, this is the reasoning.
https://www.epa.gov/pets/epa-evaluat...armful-effects
1. Depending on the product the online company will not ship to a Canadian address (I know many on the forum have a US shipping address but if you don't you're out of luck)
2. More importantly there have been reports of online companies shipping meds made offshore so it is not the original product you thought you had purchased. I am sure the more reputable online companies are shipping original product, but if the price on heartwarming or flea / tick products is substantially lower than other retailers or vets ... I would be asking why.
That's very true and is true for any product you by online.
You don't have to buy from a US source to save money....this place says they will ship inside Canada at significant savings.
https://www.universalpetmeds.ca/medi...+II+Large+Dog/
Some vets charge an annual flat rate of 500 bucks per dog which includes examination. I was talking to my neighbor and that's what her vet charges.
I just tell my vet I only want the meds so he charges the 57 or so bucks for the bloodwork (4D snap set I think it's called) plus the meds, so this season was a little more with Nexgard (139) plus Heartgard (90) plus bloodwork (57) plus tax comes in somewhere around 320! What a bargoon!
Anybody else use the pet pharmacist? 8 doses of Advantix 2 for $115
http://thepetpharmacist.ca/
I have never ordered a prescription from any Canadian pet pharmacy. I was always under the impression Advantix II could only be prescribed by a vet. Are these knock off products ? I would be very hesitant to order online from a Canadian pharmacy for a product that typically requires a prescription.
from their FAQ....
Quote:
Does the petpharmacist dispense prescription medications without a veterinarian's authorization?
No! Any item with a RX designation is a prescription medication. We can only dispense prescription medications on the instructions of a licensed veterinarian.
If you are ordering a prescription medication for the first time we will be happy to contact your veterinarian for a prescription. If you already have a written prescription you can send it to us by email, fax or regular mail.
Does my veterinarian have to provide me with a prescription?
Section 26 of the regulations to the Ontario Veterinarians Act states:
26. If a member decides to treat an animal with a drug and either does not dispense it or is asked by the owner for a prescription, the member shall give a written prescription to the owner or offer to give an oral prescription acceptable to the owner to a pharmacist or to another veterinarian in accordance with subsection 33 (1.1).
The College of Veterinarians has determined:
Where a client requests a prescription, rather than purchase a drug directly from the veterinarian, the veterinarian is obligated to comply with this request. However, the College believes that this regulation limits veterinarians to prescribing to a pharmacist in Ontario, and it is not appropriate to authorize a prescription from an Internet pharmacy.
The veterinarians responsibility is to offer to give an oral prescription to a pharmacist within the jurisdiction the veterinarian is located or, if this is not acceptable to the client, to give the client a written prescription. It is permissible for the veterinarian to charge a reasonable fee for this prescription.
The client is then free to choose how they fill the prescription. If the client chooses to attempt to have it filled by an out-of-province pharmacist, that is neither the veterinarians responsibility, nor the veterinarians concern. The veterinarian has simply fulfilled his or her obligation under the legislation.
use admire on my dogs licensed pest permit buy a 1 liter jug i use 1 cc of chemical and 3 cc of mineral oil. thats enough for 4 dogs a liter will last me a long time longer than the dogs live
That's why a liter lasts longer than the dogs.:whacked::tongue:
Started Sylke on Bravecto 4 weeks ago on my vets advice.
I will start in 10 days for Revolution for fleas, mites and internal parasites, and probably just do a pet store topical permethrin for the adult acaricide this weekend. Worked well last year. First tick spotted at the vet's was 20 km from me, but they're coming.
We have four dogs now, and three need a vet visit before they can get Revolution. I am waiting 10 days to finish getting one down below the package weight cutoff! He's so close, and the plan is to take another 1.5 lbs off after that.
I asked about Seresto, but reading now, I see that is still US only. Amazon could be my friend there. I guess one dog could be a guinea pig this season.
fyi : revolution doesn't stop /kill deer ticks- the ones that cause lyme disease.
Is it just me or are the ticks worse this Spring? Just had my husband pull another engorged one out of my head. :whacked:
Ya I'm seeing a lot around this year, maybe it's due to the milder winter we had.
I have not seen any yet this year, but the mild winter should mean more ticks survived.
Also, I guess I was mistaken about our ticks, we had four dogs confirmed infected with B. burgdorferi in the area last year. Looks like we are no longer outside the range of Ixodes scapularis; it was only a matter of time anyway, the raccoons finally made it up here a decade or so ago, too.
I couldn't order Seresto off Amazon to a Canadian address but got it on ebay no problem. 2 collars on the way for $80. Not bad for 8 months protection for both dogs.
Now that ticks are affecting the center of the universe you can expect some money poured into treatment and prevention of ticks for the flip flop crowd.
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/ti...-officials-say
Seresto has been available for more than a year. Folks had them a year ago as well. Bayer has application pending for Canada currently.
I just picked up another 4 month batch of Advantix in the states. $49.99 us.
THat is an excellent price.