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Went to duck hunting today and while getting to the spot we noticed that the spot we planned to place our john boat with blinds was "posted" by another hunter.... so we moved aside to less desirable place, put out decoys and started hunting... to our surprise the hunter who posted the spot did not show up!!! I think it is a huge disrespect... I am pretty sure many on the forum will not agree with me but I am ignoring posted spots from now on... I will also take a picture of the sign next week and place it on this forum so people might recognize this disrespectful hunter or maybe he will recognize himself here....

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Originally Posted by oxotnik

Went to duck hunting today and while getting to the spot we noticed that the spot we planned to place our john boat with blinds was "posted" by another hunter.... so we moved aside to less desirable place, put out decoys and started hunting... to our surprise the hunter who posted the spot did not show up!!! I think it is a huge disrespect... I am pretty sure many on the forum will not agree with me but I am ignoring posted spots from now on... I will also take a picture of the sign next week and place it on this forum so people might recognize this disrespectful hunter or maybe he will recognize himself here....

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2 wrongs don't make a right. To disrespect all others for one bad apple isn't right. If a sign has been placed with the full name and date I would respect it. If they didn't show may not respect it next year. Guy may of had an emergency.

Who is to say that he is not in one of the other five spots he posted!

That's not good - I would have gotton frustrated too...

We all know that putting your name on a sign does not gurantee a 'reservation' to hunt there. This has been generally respected by hunters for opening day only but there is no legal basis here.

It is interesting though how many people just 'show up' on opening morning without doing any scouting etc.

I wouldn't consider it disrespectful. There could have been a number of reasons why buddy didn't show up. For all we know he got sick, a family emergency, etc.

Look at it this way, at least you got out hunting. Some of us didn't :-(

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Who is to say that he is not in one of the other five spots he posted!

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That's been my experience,too. That's why I avoid opening day like the plague. I go upland,instead.

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Originally Posted by krakadawn

We all know that putting your name on a sign does not gurantee a 'reservation' to hunt there. This has been generally respected by hunters for opening day only but there is no legal basis here.

It is interesting though how many people just 'show up' on opening morning without doing any scouting etc.

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"By gentlemen's agreement" has been the tradition for many generations and only until noon of opening day. I can't count on both hands the number of times I've seen hunters act like spoiled brats over duck blinds.

I don't think you should be able to post a spot on public waters. Its first come first serve like any other hunting. You don't post trees for turkey hunting or deer so why a duck spot. Respect is respect if there are people there then move on, other then that its fare game.

I am ok with the posting of spots for the opener. There is enough fighting as it is but I to avoid the opening morning.

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Originally Posted by tom gobble

I don't think you should be able to post a spot on public waters. Its first come first serve like any other hunting. You don't post trees for turkey hunting or deer so why a duck spot. Respect is respect if there are people there then move on, other then that its fare game.

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Well said !

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Originally Posted by tom gobble

I don't think you should be able to post a spot on public waters. Its first come first serve like any other hunting. You don't post trees for turkey hunting or deer so why a duck spot. Respect is respect if there are people there then move on, other then that its fare game.

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I am of the same mindset.... but unfortunately some still post trees or locations for deer on public land all the time....
If I want a spot to myself, I better buy the land or be the only one allowed permission on private property.... Crown land is for all, first guy or group that gets there, should be able to call the shots.....
I too would have been pissed

We used to post a spot for the opener. It always had Name, Number and date. It was only good for that morning. It was more of a common courtesy thing than anything else. The plan was to have them out no earlier than Labour Day. Opener was Oct 1st. It was intended to tell the other guys, that come crack of dawn I will be there, PLEASE don't built or set up 30 yards away in the dark. Usually worked OK. It falls apart when the same guy posts 5 km of Island or shoreline, his signs all of a sudden mean nothing. It worked for us.

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Originally Posted by waterrat

We used to post a spot for the opener. It always had Name, Number and date. It was only good for that morning. It was more of a common courtesy thing than anything else. The plan was to have them out no earlier than Labour Day. Opener was Oct 1st. It was intended to tell the other guys, that come crack of dawn I will be there, PLEASE don't built or set up 30 yards away in the dark. Usually worked OK. It falls apart when the same guy posts 5 km of Island or shoreline, his signs all of a sudden mean nothing. It worked for us.

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Did this guy own the property or was he just putting up a sign for opening day?

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Originally Posted by krakadawn

Did this guy own the property or was he just putting up a sign for opening day?

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Nope all on puplic land.

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Originally Posted by fratri

I am of the same mindset.... but unfortunately some still post trees or locations for deer on public land all the time....
If I want a spot to myself, I better buy the land or be the only one allowed permission on private property.... Crown land is for all, first guy or group that gets there, should be able to call the shots.....
I too would have been pissed

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WTH,I've never seen anyone "post a tree" on public land in all the years I've been hunting. I honestly thought I'd heard everything .............until now. Man,that's gotta be some kind of fckued up.LOL

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

WTH,I've never seen anyone "post a tree" on public land in all the years I've been hunting. I honestly thought I'd heard everything .............until now. Man,that's gotta be some kind of fckued up.LOL

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As silly as it sounds, it is true....Some have tree stands, some have an X marked on the tree with a pail or plastic crate up against/under the tree..... In the Southern part of Ontario where I live, it can and does get pretty silly/bad at times....that's why I am of the mindset of...............if you get there first, have at it....if you are there second/third/forth be nice/courteous and move on....

Does that mean if I put my name on a sign at the entrance to Luther Marsh next year I'll be the only one who can hunt it?.....lol

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Originally Posted by gonduckin

Does that mean if I put my name on a sign at the entrance to Luther Marsh next year I'll be the only one who can hunt it?.....lol

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Lol, saw the photos of the lineup this year... sweet fcuk, no thanks!

Posting signs for opening morning is a tradition. A lot of waterfowling is about tradition. It's not about beards and face paint and how many you can kill. Don't let one guy who may have either screwed up and slept in, had his truck break down, outboard not start or wife get the flu and had to watch the kids ruin the tradition for you. Next year go out and choose a decent location and put your own sign up. Embrace the history, you'll enjoy the sport more! Or just start hunting around the middle of October. That's what I do!

Posting for opener, yes OK. After that all bet's are off. Sometimes folks have taken the time to refresh the blind, put up new camo material etc. Certainly they should be able to reserve for the opening day.

You want a specific blind for your hunt after the opener? Be the first one out to it, period.

If someone has taken the time to build a blind then I completely agree that they have rights to the area opening day. My issue is with signs posted to reserve an area on a public lake. While scouting before opener, I have seen the same name on 3 or 4 signs up in different areas.

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Originally Posted by Jtiede

If someone has taken the time to build a blind then I completely agree that they have rights to the area opening day. My issue is with signs posted to reserve an area on a public lake. While scouting before opener, I have seen the same name on 3 or 4 signs up in different areas.

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Total BS

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Originally Posted by Jtiede

If someone has taken the time to build a blind then I completely agree that they have rights to the area opening day. My issue is with signs posted to reserve an area on a public lake. While scouting before opener, I have seen the same name on 3 or 4 signs up in different areas.

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What is worse is the guys who's signs aren't taken down (nailed to a tree in a swamp) that is unreadable except for an L and they come slogging through the swamp 10 mins before legal light expecting to have their spot.

Something the "me first" generation doesn't get taught .......... tradition ! Now mind you if some schmuck puts out five signs with his name on them I would do something about it ! That's being greedy not a gentleman. Honouring some guys spot for Opening morning is part of our waterfowl heritage. There was a time when if you saw a guy hit a bird and it came down near you and you finished it off , you would return the bird and the hunter would repay the shot(s) spent in doing so and maybe a dram of throat cleaner.

I turn sixty next year and have been hunting for over 45 years. I plan on retiring and hopefully will have time to carry on our great waterfowling tradition. Hell.....maybe teach a newbie about them.

What BBD just said.
Now that I live in an area with a lot of WFing, and have spoken with a few people who put time, sweat and some $ into maintaining blinds for "all to use"..........

by all means, spend a month building or maintaining one, then see how you feel if someone doesn't respect a "reservation" for openers doesn't bother you. One blind I've been using has had a lot of work done it. Inside there's a sign. Use it, don't abuse it. Happened to bump into the two guys who built it. I was hunting early goose, they came out with a boat full of materials to ready it for duck. Between litter, vandals.....and just, well. Suffice to say they are happy to have someone who lives 300 yards away, willing to keep it clean during the week...Suppose if I don't like it, I could use one of the old decrepit blinds, if I could trust the floor or stilts wouldn't give under my weight. Told one neighbor who had built a few of the blinds. If you have a friend coming to join you anytime, just let me know which your hoping to use. I won't be there.

shore spots are a little different, but if it's that important. Build a blind, maintain it, post it. Not a big deal.

The days of the traditional permanent blinds are rapidly coming to an end,regrettably. It's virtually impossible to find a place to build a blind on shore that doesn't have a cottage or a home nearby.I found,long ago,that a portable boat blind was the only way to go. They don't need to be very elaborate,either. Milsurp camo netting works well. Hip waders or a small 10-12' canoe to retrieve ducks and dekes pulled behind the big boat works like a charm. We can hunt various lakes and rivers on a whim and we don't need to think about interfering with others or having them interfere with us.

Agree Trimmer. A lot depends on water body. Further down the Lake, and it's all homes/cottages. Very very few blinds. Up where I am, one shore is the same ( geese hug this shore like stink), they fly right over my deck at 30 yards when they leave the fields like they are teasing me, then as soon as they hit the shore, they stay close to the houses. the far shore there's tons of bay/marsh and lots of blinds. Problem here is over the years the bay's have filled in, and with low water levels. Some are now useless.

Was out hunting one of those blinds across from me with BBD a couple weeks ago. A goose landed on shore in the cat tails behind us. When I stepped out of the boat, 2 inches of water turned to feet and almost came over my chest waders. Good thing I kept a grip on the boat, had all my weight been on my feet, I don't want to think about how far is have sunk in silt. A lot of the area is floating "land". So blinds here if not by boat are almost a must.

Have be been thinking about next year and a boat blind. Can go almost anywhere, and no worries about heading out in the dark and finding your first 3 options occupied.

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Originally Posted by oxotnik

Went to duck hunting today and while getting to the spot we noticed that the spot we planned to place our john boat with blinds was "posted" by another hunter.... so we moved aside to less desirable place, put out decoys and started hunting... to our surprise the hunter who posted the spot did not show up!!! I think it is a huge disrespect... I am pretty sure many on the forum will not agree with me but I am ignoring posted spots from now on... I will also take a picture of the sign next week and place it on this forum so people might recognize this disrespectful hunter or maybe he will recognize himself here....

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I am a firm believer in first come first serve on public land, you want the spot then get there before anyone else. Don't believe in this posting crap on public land period.

If someone takes the time and effort to build a blind for opening day then that should be respected. After that if its on Crown land and they aren't using it then it should be fair game to whoever wants to use it. A little civility and common sense goes a long way.

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Originally Posted by terrym

If someone takes the time and effort to build a blind for opening day then that should be respected. After that if its on Crown land and they aren't using it then it should be fair game to whoever wants to use it. A little civility and common sense goes a long way.

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Sorry, totally disagree I hunt with layouts, A frames and I have a blind on my duck boat. No need to build a blind so I may have been there scouting long before someone decides to build a blind. I do see your point but respectfully disagree :)

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Originally Posted by skeeter1

Sorry, totally disagree I hunt with layouts, A frames and I have a blind on my duck boat. No need to build a blind so I may have been there scouting long before someone decides to build a blind. I do see your point but respectfully disagree :)

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You "assume" you scouted first but really there is no way to confirm that on public land. That person who built the blind could have beat you to it. Also many don't have the means to buy boats so shore hunting is a necessity.

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Originally Posted by longpointer

Something the "me first" generation doesn't get taught .......... tradition ! Now mind you if some schmuck puts out five signs with his name on them I would do something about it ! That's being greedy not a gentleman. Honouring some guys spot for Opening morning is part of our waterfowl heritage. There was a time when if you saw a guy hit a bird and it came down near you and you finished it off , you would return the bird and the hunter would repay the shot(s) spent in doing so and maybe a dram of throat cleaner.

I turn sixty next year and have been hunting for over 45 years. I plan on retiring and hopefully will have time to carry on our great waterfowling tradition. Hell.....maybe teach a newbie about them.

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You know I find it funny that some folks use the term tradition when they talk about blatantly ignoring the law. These guys share the same mentality with guys who think they don't need to take their blinds down after the season closes. They post spots based on the assumption that the golden age of waterfowling is still around; not realizing the world has changed and hunting opportunities on crown land are shrinking and by posting "their" spot for opening morning is nothing more than selfish behaviour.

What you see as the failure of the "me first" generation is actually a symptom of something far worse. Older generations inability to realize the world has changed and sometimes traditions need to fall by the wayside. Waterfowlers do not have the room anymore to have the luxury of reserving your spot. New waterfowlers who have never heard of this "tradition" get lambasted for following the law about crown land (first come, first serve) by older hunters and then we wonder why we don't have any new guys coming into this part of the sport. Older generations fail to realize the less welcoming you are, the new hunters simply will walk away from waterfowling and the opportunities to hunt on crown land will shrink even further because there will be no new voices to join us when we need to be heard on important issues (like a cottage association wanting to stop waterfowling in their area because of some reason).

With that said, I will not hunt opening morning on crown land because of this very reason (tradition vs the law argument) and I certainly will never use someone else's blind (I don't know who constructed the blind and what materials they used to do it and it may be unsafe).

Dyth

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Originally Posted by Dythbringer

You know I find it funny that some folks use the term tradition when they talk about blatantly ignoring the law. These guys share the same mentality with guys who think they don't need to take their blinds down after the season closes. They post spots based on the assumption that the golden age of waterfowling is still around; not realizing the world has changed and hunting opportunities on crown land are shrinking and by posting "their" spot for opening morning is nothing more than selfish behaviour.

What you see as the failure of the "me first" generation is actually a symptom of something far worse. Older generations inability to realize the world has changed and sometimes traditions need to fall by the wayside. Waterfowlers do not have the room anymore to have the luxury of reserving your spot. New waterfowlers who have never heard of this "tradition" get lambasted for following the law about crown land (first come, first serve) by older hunters and then we wonder why we don't have any new guys coming into this part of the sport. Older generations fail to realize the less welcoming you are, the new hunters simply will walk away from waterfowling and the opportunities to hunt on crown land will shrink even further because there will be no new voices to join us when we need to be heard on important issues (like a cottage association wanting to stop waterfowling in their area because of some reason).

With that said, I will not hunt opening morning on crown land because of this very reason (tradition vs the law argument) and I certainly will never use someone else's blind (I don't know who constructed the blind and what materials they used to do it and it may be unsafe).

Dyth

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Best post of entire thread :):)

Normally agree you Dyth and while what follows isn't disagreement, its more a different perspective.

"not realizing the world has changed and hunting opportunities on crown land are shrinking"

and by disrespecting or griping about the tradition of posting a spot for opening morning and thereby hopefully avoiding confrontation on the water and more, is nothing more than the new generations selfish behaviour.

Basically just trying to show how it cuts both ways and an argument could be made, that because opportunity is shrinking such things become more important. But ultimately in the end, its just as "selfish" in this era of shrinking opportunities.
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If people have built blinds, and put effort into maintaining I really don't see any problems with a reservation for opening morning. The season is long, people do have the option of going grouse hunting as we did on openers and avoiding the craziness....Or simply, wait one day for the open season on spots.
Its one morning...........

DB,I agree that blinds should be taken down after the season. Name another sport that allows you to leave your personal property on public land year round?:silly: If you bring it in,you should bring it out.:thumbup:

Ah you must mean like your dock FMC, I think Ive (could be mistaken) your one of those who don't like guys fishing them, or coming too close. I know the water is yours. So do as I say, not as I do? What right do you have to that water and to leave in near all year. Take it out when you go home.....
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Will just say the polar perspectives in this, is classic :). And in part what I was referring to above.
The fact is, the "post" system alleviates a lot of the potential conflicts and dangers when fumbling about in the dark. And in this days and age, an argument can be made, that its just as, if not more important.

Look at the horror stories around Moose hunting and people setting up camps weeks in advance, block people off, scaring them away and more..

By contrast, it's one morning.

No, fish my dock all you want just don't hit my boat with your lures, ( I have found some inside the boat), but I hate like hell looking from my front deck at duck blinds that are used for a season, then the cedar branches turn brown, the rope rots, the wire rusts, the lawn chair disintegrates, the 6 inch spikes pull from the posts, and the blind slowly sinks into the muck over the next 10 years. Why should others have to look at the garbage duck hunters have left to rot on public waterways?

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Originally Posted by JBen

Normally agree you Dyth and while what follows isn't disagreement, its more a different perspective.

"not realizing the world has changed and hunting opportunities on crown land are shrinking"

and by disrespecting or griping about the tradition of posting a spot for opening morning and thereby hopefully avoiding confrontation on the water and more, is nothing more than the new generations selfish behaviour.

Basically just trying to show how it cuts both ways and an argument could be made, that because opportunity is shrinking such things become more important. But ultimately in the end, its just as "selfish" in this era of shrinking opportunities.
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If people have built blinds, and put effort into maintaining I really don't see any problems with a reservation for opening morning. The season is long, people do have the option of going grouse hunting as we did on openers and avoiding the craziness....Or simply, wait one day for the open season on spots.

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Jben,

That is fine if you want to have a different perspective. I understand where the tradition of posting a spot comes from. However, in my opinion, this tradition is nothing more than squatting on public land. Would this be acceptable camping in Algonquin Park? You have just paddled for a few days to a picturesque lakeside campsite you know about only to discover a sign saying someone has laid claim to that spot on the same day as you got there. Understanding of course that if you do accept that you now have to go at least 150m away as that is also part of the tradition of waterfowling so you don't mess up their "camping" experience.

Where do the "rights" of this tradition end? What someone posted their spot and anglers decided to fish that exact spot, who gets to use the spot? The problem with "posting" something is people will get possessive over "their" spot. It is human nature.

As for using someone else's blind, I don't do it. If I don't build the blind, I won't use it.

Dyth

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

No, fish my dock all you want just don't hit my boat with your lures, ( I have found some inside the boat), but I hate like hell looking from my front deck at duck blinds that are used for a season, then the cedar branches turn brown, the rope rots, the wire rusts, the lawn chair disintegrates, the 6 inch spikes pull from the posts, and the blind slowly sinks into the muck over the next 10 years. Why should others have to look at the garbage duck hunters have left to rot on public waterways?

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And I hate "cottages" that aren't cottages but are instead eyesores. Also really dislike docks that a person could park a bus beside. Its a fine line G. Basically between the two I'd rather look at a shore/marsh with a couple decrepit old blinds, than some eyesore that isn't a cottage, your two seadoos, bowrider, and jonesing. In fact, Id rather most all lakes be more like those in APP, or at least more like those in the Halliburton forest. Not much more than shacks with outhouses.....But hey its your lake, your view. And are you also saying hunters are the only people that pollute? Lets put your life under a microscope G. A big city polluter who escapes to his cottage/his lake on weekends..........Seen how weedy the Kawarthas are getting? Ever hear of phosphates?

Beauty is after all in the eye of the beholder.

That said.
Agree, theres a couple old decrepit blinds out from me.Would prefer they get pulled or fixed up. Theres one Im eyeing possibly for next year and fixing up if possible. But at the end of the day, people shouldn't throw stones at glass houses, especially people who live in the GTA.

This is an age old argument that has been going on for centuries.

Its actually helpful to know where others are going to be set up on opening morning. I have no problem with guys posting a spot, and I respect it, but there is not a lot of respect left in the marshes I hunt these days. Nothing but a bunch of idiots most of the time. If everyone who plans to hunt a spot took the time to have a look around before opener it would be a lot safer, and better shooting if you knew where the rest of the hunters are going to be.

I use a boat blind. Best set up IMO. A permanent blind is just an idiot magnet in a marsh. Put up a blind and you get every lazy idiot for miles hunting it and leaving their behind. And I say that literally. People are idiots.

S.

My cottage JB is on an island, as long as the water-ice is able to get a boat through, I am there , so at least 8 months of the year I live further north than you. Blinds that are left to rot ARE garbage, that is left, ( on PUBLIC land), by a few to the detriment of the many. If it is not allowed for any other group , why duck hunters?

As I said Dyth, wasn't disagreeing.

There are people from all walks who pollute, or who let their docks fall apart, or abuse this or that.And that includes the "first come/first serve" and people who set Dekes up Friday morning and expect it to be theirs Sat or all weekend. Or Moose hunters who set up weeks in advance, or those who block logging roads and on and on and on.

Was just saying the selfishness, could in fact and does "cut both ways"

Lol G your taking the "your" too literally. :)
The points stand though.Im thinking the guy that built that blind that so offends you, leaves a smaller footprint and impact than you (yes you literally) do. Now multiply you by tens of thousands, and all their toys and all their pollution and all their phosphates and more.

Quite honestly I would much rather look out on the shore I do with its decrepit blinds ( 3 of them). Most are buried in cattails so you can't even see them. Than whats further down the Lake........including the constant noise, the crotch rockets zipping around and more.

Beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder

Anyone but a duck hunter, who went out to a public area, be it a marsh, pond, field, lake, park, etc. and built a structure, used it for a month and then left it sitting there, I think would be in contravention of a number of laws. Why should water fowlers get a pass?

Don't know, don't have answers. Why should be allowed to build a doc, its not your lake.

Can only tell you, that you shouldn't throw stones at glass houses, especially when you live in the GTA and are a weekend warrior who like tens of thousands of others.......Have a larger footprint, have more impact than that blind that so offends you. And as for views, well Im thinking there are a ton of people who hate what city folk are doing to the landscape. ;)

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Originally Posted by Sinker

This is an age old argument that has been going on for centuries.

Its actually helpful to know where others are going to be set up on opening morning. I have no problem with guys posting a spot, and I respect it, but there is not a lot of respect left in the marshes I hunt these days. Nothing but a bunch of idiots most of the time. If everyone who plans to hunt a spot took the time to have a look around before opener it would be a lot safer, and better shooting if you knew where the rest of the hunters are going to be.

I use a boat blind. Best set up IMO. A permanent blind is just an idiot magnet in a marsh. Put up a blind and you get every lazy idiot for miles hunting it and leaving their behind. And I say that literally. People are idiots.

S.

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Thats the way i see it

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Originally Posted by JBen

As I said Dyth, wasn't disagreeing.

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No, I know you weren't. Just because we have a difference of opinions doesn't mean I didn't think about what you have said. These are my thoughts on posting but at the end of the day, I don't think it will effect me too much. I used to hunt opening day on public land. I stopped because of the fair weather yahoos who decide that a 12 gauge shotgun is actually an anti-aircraft weapon. I have noticed after Thanksgiving the Duck Commander clones are mostly gone and I can hunt public water again.

I'll go one further Dyth. I used to fish openers to. Avoid that like the plague, even more than duck hunting.

Same Sambo, a little organization ( if we want to call it that ) and more goes a long ways. Depending on where your hunting it's nuts out there. We all know there are people who start shooting long before first legal. I've been on the water waiting for sunrise when the fog was so thick we couldn't even see our dekes and we could hear shots. Then out of nowhere, two guys in a canoe are in amongst our dekes.
Personally I avoid it. If I didn't go Grouse hunting this past weekend, I might have gone out, but most likely not until the afternoon.

doubtful this debate will ever really be resolved. And each openers the craziness will continue, guys will come home and tell friends it was raining pellets around them, or tell friends about the idiots shooting 40 minutes before first legal, and words with others who setup Friday morning, or set up in the dark too close and on and on.

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Anyone but a duck hunter, who went out to a public area, be it a marsh, pond, field, lake, park, etc. and built a structure, used it for a month and then left it sitting there, I think would be in contravention of a number of laws. Why should water fowlers get a pass?

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No one is getting a "pass" per-se.

The same thing that prevents the MNR from going into the back country of crown land and taking down trappers cabins that are no longer in used by licenses trappers. They don't have the resources.

I'm sure if you made a big enough stink with the powers that be, you might see them disappear, but given the current climate, I doubt it.

Jben however does make a pretty good point, if the blinds which no one owns have to go, then so does the docks, which are attached to a shoreline that no one owns either......

Imperfect system, but seems to work.....

JB , A cottage on my property offends you? Well what I do on my property is my business , what people do on public property is everyone's business.

I agree. You could put signs everywhere. First come first serve. If someone is there keep moving. Be respectable to other hunters. But myself a sign is pointless.

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Public land is public. If you own the property do as you wish. Point blank.

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Completely missing the points G, willfully or not I don't know, nor care.
1) Let us know when your remove your dock,you don't own the lake. So before griping about a few blinds at least walk the walk and take it out this weekend. And while your at it gripe about all the floating docks/diving platforms and rubber tramps, Islands, etc people anchor out in front of their cottages. And if you have any, remove those to.

2) Fact is, that blind especially if its made of natural materials is far less a footprint or impact than your having. So be careful throwing the words hunters are polluters.....
3) Count the oh so offensive blinds on your lake, now count everything else and let me know which is the greater pollutant.
4) Fact: Some people find them preferable to look at versus your cottage or what some deem cottages these days. Yep I would be one of those. Don't care what you do, if you want to dance around naked on your property, knock your self out. I still think your cottage is an eyesore.

In short don't throw stones at glass houses. I can guarantee you, you alone are leaving more pollution, more garbage, more gas and phosphates in the lake, than that oh so offensive blind. And now, add everything else

Its not "your" lake.
And what do you do every Sunday?
Drive back to the GTA with a few hundred thousand other people.....All doing the same things.

Come on JB now you are just being silly. That is junk left on public property nothing more. The person who built that blind left to rot on everyone else's ,(public) property also left a footprint getting there and building it because I bet that person lives in the GTA. But they don't have to watch it rot for the next 10 years. The rule of the outdoors is, and always should be, if you bring it in, you take it back out. On land you do not own ,that should be obvious.

Not arguing it.Would prefer if people who build them took them down when its time.

But honestly, your "no" better., not sure I am in ways If your going to gripe about that one, or two blinds per se, A) do more than talk the talk B) Look around, put it into perspective and gripe about oversized docks, floating swimming platforms and more. City folk seem to think these lakes are your personal playgrounds. Fact, when we had our cottage on Chiming the dock wasn't in all the time and the boats were pulled up (or winched) up onto shore every weekend..........



You said hunters are polluters, uh uh everyone is. How many Tims cups and water bottles do I see every summer on every lake, left by cottagers and weekend warriors? How much crap do you leave on your yard does the wind blow in to the Lake every summer. Maybe a few of the bags of chips you leave by the fire pit after a drunken night or even a plastic chair the odd time? How many plastic bags blown out of boats, off docks.....How many cottagers have put in tons and tons of Stone and landscaping on shorelines. Ive seen "retaining walls" worth a million bucks.....How many of you cottagers toss or leave plastic baits in the waters. Ever seen pics of Bass and Pike with stomachs just bursting with plastis left to rot in the Lake? And on and on and on an on. Those few blinds are a drop in the ocean.

But that one oh so offensive blind that you hate, and ruins your view and serenity. Too funny
Don't throw stones at glass houses G.

Dollars to donuts the majority of blinds are built by locals. Know for fact 2 of the ones out from me, the builders canoe to. That's neither here nor there, but of all things to riled up about, all the things you turn blind eyes to, and instead that one blind, gets you fired up....

"Its not "your" lake.
And what do you do every Sunday?
Drive back to the GTA with a few hundred thousand other people.....All doing the same things."

Well generally you are correct but I could show you some lakes where a motor has never been on and they have been fished all summer and there is not a single trace of pollution,cigarette butts,fishing line.

That being said I could then show you a local neighbor, who is a local and has had his tree stands on Crown land for the past 20 years and claims the right to use the stands to the exclusion of all others and tries to exclude all others from using the Crown Land.

No doubt Gilroy. One of the point I've tried to make and reinforce through out this thread, and lately with G.

Its not old timers stuck on old ways it's new hunters to.
Its not just waterfowlers, it's moose hunters who....and deer hunters who...
its not just hunters, it's anglers, recreational boaters
it's not just hunters, it's cottagers to

but if we want to look at things, things to get riled up about on various lakes. By far generally speaking hunters don't scratch the top of the dung pile. And even those who do, it's still way less of an impact than.....

perspective.
and one old blind made of cedars, some press board and rushes...lol. Well if that gets the blood boiling............................

anytime you want to show that lake where a guy could truly get away from "humanity" and feel as though he lost.

just send me the GPS coordinates. Promise I won't leave many footprints. :)

Tradition is a big part of hunting. I'm sad to see that there are so few left that get that!

Back to the original poster.
Was the sign there when you scouted the spot before opening day?

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"Its not "your" lake.
And what do you do every Sunday?
Drive back to the GTA with a few hundred thousand other people.....All doing the same things."

Well generally you are correct but I could show you some lakes where a motor has never been on and they have been fished all summer and there is not a single trace of pollution,cigarette butts,fishing line.

That being said I could then show you a local neighbor, who is a local and has had his tree stands on Crown land for the past 20 years and claims the right to use the stands to the exclusion of all others and tries to exclude all others from using the Crown Land.

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Well after 20 years it's his , 'tradition'.

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Tradition is a big part of hunting. I'm sad to see that there are so few left that get that!

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When 'tradition' breaks the law, the tradition is wrong / outdated and should be stopped.

We always looked at it as opening day was for whomever built the blind that year. so did the Game Wardens.

After opening day it belonged to anyone and everyone. Most( the ones near my house)are left year round.

I have no issues with it. Mostly to me, it's the hokey nets/ice huts and docks left abandoned to sink every year.

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We always looked at it as opening day was for whomever built the blind that year. so did the Game Wardens.

After opening day it belonged to anyone and everyone. Most( the ones near my house)are left year round.

[COLOR=#ff0000]I have no issues with it. Mostly to me, it's the hokey nets/ice huts and docks left abandoned to sink every year.

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Lol G, Good thing we know each other :) because it would be too easy for people.........
Your really hung up on this blind out front of your cottage. I do understand this thread is about water fowling, and posting spots, but.......

There are laws about litter to, and shorelines and docks and so much more. Yet........

And there are laws about plastic baits thrown over board, and swimming platforms that are left to fall apart, or break away in winds, or just simply placed well out from shore, with no lights for nighttime waterfowlers to avoid running into them and more...

And granite boulders the size of micro fuel efficient cars city dwellers buy to feel good about themselves and lots of them, to line their shore and show off their "property"...and plastic bags, or chip bags, and water bottles....

And Tims cups and ice cap lids that get caught on fish
And plastic beer can holders the ducks get caught in
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if the link doest work google "Duck plastic litter" or "Fish plastic litter" and go to images.

And so very much more I could name.
But that one blind really has you fired up doesn't it.....................

Don't know why the MNR is ok with them. Could be because they are almost always natural materials, that are going to break down. Usually way out of the way, and often in cat tails so not really visible ( I understand thats not always the case) but certainly not the eyesores so much more is.

I thought about ice huts last night when you so riled, but unlike most WF blinds, they are not..part of the environment, and not off in back bays where no one might collide with them, are usually not obtrusive, and when they fall down, they are well, like any other tree that gets blown down....Unlike whats loose on your cottage yard. And unlike the cement cinder blocks used to hold docks and anchor diving platforms and so more more........

Can say, now that I live in an area with a lot of blinds. Most have the builders names on them. So its not hard see built by Joe smith and reserved for openers by John Smith. And most often its the same builders who maintain during the off season, all 9 nine months of it, especially May to Oct when everyone ( hundreds of thousands) is treating the Lake like their own personal playground and dump, who then go back to the GTA in their micro fuel efficient cars feeling good about themselves while slagging hunters and that one darn blind that ruins their view.

Duck blinds in a marsh are part of our heritage. They were there long before cottages and "citiots". In fact, the presence of a duck blind can make a significant difference when an area is being assessed for development. If there is a duck blind, it can be noted as a heritage site, and stop any development, so they aren't all bad. I just hate the idiots who use them most times. I would much rather look out my cottage window and look at a duck blind than I would a developed shoreline full of million dollar "cottages" that are bigger than my home.

S.

I've always been big on tradition along with honor among sportsman. Unfortunately,those days are numbered. Maybe, WF blinds should be tagged with the hunters name,address and be removed the same way ice fishing huts must be removed.

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Duck blinds in a marsh are part of our heritage. They were there long before cottages and "citiots". In fact, the presence of a duck blind can make a significant difference when an area is being assessed for development. If there is a duck blind, it can be noted as a heritage site, and stop any development, so they aren't all bad. I just hate the idiots who use them most times. I would much rather look out my cottage window and look at a duck blind than I would a developed shoreline full of million dollar "cottages" that are bigger than my home.

S.

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Trying to stop development because there's duck blinds present? Geez,Sinker,I'm the first guy to stand for tradition,but,nobody will ever buy that one.LOL It's good,though. I sure like the idea.

Can't recall specifics and I could very easily be wrong, but somewhere in the cobwebs of this dusty old filing system of mine. I seem to want to recall a niggling strand of memory of just that Trimmer. No doubt, the better arguement would be using the habitat, wetlands, species etc. but there's something tickling my memories that yup, it has happened.

With respect to the sidebars. Just this past year, access to a lake and public boat launch (iinnisfil) had to closed. I'm pretty sure it wasn't because of the odd old blind and hunters.
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in th end, if some people want to hold onto tradition. Why not? Think also dogs and deer in the big woods.

if some get bothered by post, or if you do post or think it helps reduce the chaos but people won't "honour/respect" it.

Or for some bothered by that ( people just trying to find a spot opening day and having to charge like mad men at 1am, and then finding people camping out a day before.)

Or posting the blind you maintain, only to discover someone in it at 4am. So u go to your second blind and it to has been usurped despite a "please respect that I maintain it, and only ask this one morning of the entire season" and then your off to your 3rd. It's now 6am and your going to be setting up in the light.

ask yourself if that's why you hunt, and do find pellets raining down you on openers peaceful, relaxing...maybe wait a day or 3 until the zoo calms down, and..

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Trying to stop development because there's duck blinds present? Geez,Sinker,I'm the first guy to stand for tradition,but,nobody will ever buy that one.LOL It's good,though. I sure like the idea.

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Yep. It's true. MNR had a weighting system that they use before lands are re-classified or rezoned. A duck blind makes it more difficult for developers.

Years ago we had a group of developers trying to develop around a marsh in Innisfil. They were trying to lobby the township to prevent hunting within the area because they could not get permits. The reason they could not get permits was in part thanks to the duck blind on this marsh. It added points to the mnr's assesment and thus kept the developers at bay.


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Good to know the cobwebs while growing, haven't completely dusted my memory, lol. Thanks BT.

darn those old decrepit blinds
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More elitism from the usual suspects. "I'm special from the city" so kotow to my every need up to and including providing me a "view" especially if it will take away from the rural residents' enjoyment.

However, they scream NIMBY if anything is to be build in their "center of the universe" that would benefit all Ontarians and will do anything up to and including ensuring depotism in Ontario and the utter destruction of it.

G, you like to fish, try fishing around the duckblind. I have one close and it ALWAYS produces a quality bass and several nice ones.

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Well after 20 years it's his , 'tradition'.

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Yup even the locals have the NIMBY syndrome.

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UnfortunateI've always been big on tradition along with honor among sportsman.ly,those days are numbered.

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Maybe, WF blinds should be tagged with the hunters name,address and be removed the same way ice fishing huts must be removed.

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Along with the above, you can add RESPECT , of which there is very little to none shown these days in the me, me, me, world.

Tradition, Honor and Respect is what we were taught in our days, and all three go hand in hand.

Like Sinker said, blinds in popular spots are idiot magnets most of the time. It's like an ad that this is a good spot to hunt from.

I'm with him on the boat blinds.

that said, I've seen some nIce ones in tucked away places but even they're being discovered and inevitably overused.

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Posting signs for opening morning is a tradition. A lot of waterfowling is about tradition. It's not about beards and face paint and how many you can kill. Don't let one guy who may have either screwed up and slept in, had his truck break down, outboard not start or wife get the flu and had to watch the kids ruin the tradition for you. Next year go out and choose a decent location and put your own sign up. Embrace the history, you'll enjoy the sport more! Or just start hunting around the middle of October. That's what I do!

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Sadly, not many get this anymore.