Shooting for fun?

I am getting flamed for shooting for fun to see what my guns can do, have we lost the enjoyment of seeing what our guns can do? I remember as a kid we would shoot hundreds and hundreds of rounds just to shoot and we would learn what we could do. I would shoot tin cans at 100 yards with an old 22LR Cooey 82 trainer and iron sights. We would shoot saplings down at close range just to see them fall. We would shoot center fire rifles for hours and until our shoulders were blue and figure out what we actually had.

I just picked up an SKS, so much fun, not accurate as of yet but a riot. Bringing out the 410 has made me enjoy testing things again and reloading once again has brought back my joy of learning about shooting, the history behind it and brought back the respect of a "baby" gun.

I am waiting on a shipment from Cabelas of a new scope for my 22LR, going to setup some targets at 100,200 and 300 yards to see what I can do prone off a bipod, why? Just because I can.

Does anyone else play with their guns at the range or do we all just punch enough paper to know we will hit a deer at 100 yards and be done with it.

Who the heck is flaming you?

Always enjoy plinking with my guns.

Your SKS is a lot of fun, but you'll likely get it down to "minute of barn door", instead of MOA....however, just about as much fun as you can have with your pants on anyhow.

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

Who the heck is flaming you?

Always enjoy plinking with my guns.

Your SKS is a lot of fun, but you'll likely get it down to "minute of barn door", instead of MOA....however, just about as much fun as you can have with your pants on anyhow.

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I shot a 410 slug, don't do that and mention it here, they actually hit pretty hard at close range.

The SKS at 25 yards free standing and shooting without even a bull, just at a 2'x2' board was pretty cool, the sights are quick to acquire and the gun does not jump, I can see why this and the SKS work so well for combat, always stays on target.

I was looking up the 22LR at longer ranges, I may have to put a stick with markings for height up it at 300 yards, looks like that is going to be some substantial drop.

The SKS is a lot of fun. I was surprised how accurate mine is ... not MOA by any means but for a 60 year old service rifle that's been ridden hard and put away wet by Russian recruits it does pretty well. But it gets much sloppier when the barrel heats up.

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Like you, I shoot as much as I can. I like to shoot a newly obtained center fire rifle around 150 rounds just getting used to it, slicking up the bore, cycling the action, checking the action screws, and just enjoying it even before zeroing the optics.

Sometimes I make a full day just shooting different rifles and loads at different type targets.

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Originally Posted by Fox

I shot a 410 slug, don't do that and mention it here, they actually hit pretty hard at close range.

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I saw that thread. I see nothing wrong with a .410 slug out of a 3" shell.

Ballistically it would do the job as well as a lot of other ammo. If it was about plinking using a slug? Who cares, you have the room to shoot, and know how to shoot safe....

Have fun, shoot lots......

When it's time to put meat on the table, you'll miss a heck of a lot less than some of the folks with other opinions.

My main hobbies consist of shooting (trap/sporting clays/target rifle). Attend any well run shooting range and you will see shooting for fun is alive and well.

if you dont shoot for fun then why do it at all. Also saw the ridcule on the other posts its kinda funny after hunting season ends or slows down the old grumps and armchair critics come out of the woodwork more. It had me ditch this forum last year for a whole year but realized some people will never change and they make life interesting for themselves by causing forum mayhem, best to ignore them. Their posts arent worth the thumbs they used to type them.

Ive never shot a 410 but I see myself picking one up in the future. If im ever out hunting birds for sure ill be bringing some slugs incase a deer comes by.

Im on the train right now going to toronto airport for a 1 week much needed vacation. When I get back I plan on having a bunch of friends over for daytime bonfire skeet shooting and some rifle practice. A friend has some old mausers and other old military guns hes gonna bring. That indeed is what I call fun and so does the crowd I hang out with. Just because a gun doesnt turn your shoulder blue when i goes bang isnt a reason to criticize choice of calibre or other. As old as some of these yahoos are they sure act like children, albiet they have probably been socked a couple times in their life for being a donkey anyways so they probably already know that about themselves.

Hey a 410 is loads of fun. Just last Sunday I had the 410 out then changed to 10/22 for a while then got the 12 gauge out
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Be legal and safe and do as you please. To hell with those who dont agree

What better way, to know what your gun can do. Go nutz! I wish I had the space or opportunity to do that anymore. On the farm, in Saskatchewan, I could shoot all day and became very proficient. Now, as a grumpy old man, I don't have as much opportunity. Give 'er!!

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Originally Posted by welsh

The SKS is a lot of fun. I was surprised how accurate mine is ... not MOA by any means but for a 60 year old service rifle that's been ridden hard and put away wet by Russian recruits it does pretty well. But it gets much sloppier when the barrel heats up.

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Welsh you are ruining my preconceived image of you. Always thought of you as a well heeled gentleman toting a finely crafted Merkel. Now I find out you are a "hold my beer" SKS toting redneck like the rest of us. :joker:

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Originally Posted by Fox

We would shoot saplings down at close range just to see them fall.

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Personally I like to use my 35 Whelen to cut down firewood trees:

- locate the target tree (usually 10 to 12 inch birch with a suitable backstop)
- set up 100 yards away
- load up with 225 grain accubonds loaded to +/- 2700 fps
- start shooting

My personal best was an 11 inch birch taken down from 100 yards with 11 shots.

Think I need to join a range! I love shooting and need to practice more, don't have any real good spots to just plink at a decent range. But uggggh I need it, so much fun and excitement just shooting targets, cans, fruit or just a stump

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My brother got me a box of clays for Xmas, except I don't have anywhere to blast them! Unless anyone in the area does ;) I'll share! Never shot clays but I know i need to work on it

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I was given a No 4 lend lease Enfield as a wedding gift, one of the most beautiful rifles to shoot, not because of anything other than the history and that it was my brother who gave it to me, heavy as heck so a light recoil for a 303 Brit.

Have you guys ever played poker on the range?

You take a sheet of plywood and staple a deck of cards to it. Then at 100 yards you shoot the cards 1 card each person until you have a hand of 5, best hand wins the pot, do this with a 22 and a 3x scope max, lots of fun.

The 410 slug shot was to see if it had enough energy to shoot a deer, since it is legal in Ontario to do so, not as a way to puff it up and make it the ideal round for a deer but to see what that little thing can do, went through a 10" deep square bucket of water this afternoon with a perfect mushroom, really cool to see.

Next up is to reload for the coyote rifle and then build a 500 yard deer gun from a military rifle, lots of fun to be had on the range.

Last time I took the 30 cals out I put 80 rounds down range, all in military rifles, shoulder was a little sore but so much fun.

I have been shooting a fair bit the last couple years. Mostly I just develop handloads and shoot for accuracy. Often I load up a box of .30-06 or .280 and shoot them off just for fun. I am a member of a local range that is pretty lightly used, especially in winter.

Last week I tried some 5-shot groups at 50 yards, offhand. The results were sobering. It was difficult to hold groups under 6 inches so I need to practice. Mind you, I have only ever once shot offhand at a deer that far; usually I will use a sapling to hold steady or something.

Fox, you will only get flamed if you hunt with .410 slugs, not plink with them. I checked the ballistics charts a few years ago, and I don't recall if it was 2.5 or 3-inch .410 ammo, but the MUZZLE energy of a .410 slug is almost exactly equal to the energy of a 170-grain .30-30 round at 300 yards. For some reason people think they are equivalent to .44 Mag pistol ammo. Nope, not even close.
Mind you, a dead deer trumps ballistic theory every time, lol! I know full well the .38-55 is not a 200-yard moose gun, but my great-grandfather dropped two moose at that distance.

I am going to try something new to me. I just bought a Win 1885 falling-block single-shot in .38-55 and I plan to try her with smokeless and black powder (actually Triple Seven) cast-bullet loads. I think it would be pretty cool to take a deer with that rifle using the tang sight.

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Originally Posted by Kilo Charlie

I have been shooting a fair bit the last couple years. Mostly I just develop handloads and shoot for accuracy. Often I load up a box of .30-06 or .280 and shoot them off just for fun. I am a member of a local range that is pretty lightly used, especially in winter.

Last week I tried some 5-shot groups at 50 yards, offhand. The results were sobering. It was difficult to hold groups under 6 inches so I need to practice. Mind you, I have only ever once shot offhand at a deer that far; usually I will use a sapling to hold steady or something.

Fox, you will only get flamed if you hunt with .410 slugs, not plink with them. I checked the ballistics charts a few years ago, and I don't recall if it was 2.5 or 3-inch .410 ammo, but the MUZZLE energy of a .410 slug is almost exactly equal to the energy of a 170-grain .30-30 round at 300 yards. For some reason people think they are equivalent to .44 Mag pistol ammo. Nope, not even close.
Mind you, a dead deer trumps ballistic theory every time, lol! I know full well the .38-55 is not a 200-yard moose gun, but my great-grandfather dropped two moose at that distance.

I am going to try something new to me. I just bought a Win 1885 falling-block single-shot in .38-55 and I plan to try her with smokeless and black powder (actually Triple Seven) cast-bullet loads. I think it would be pretty cool to take a deer with that rifle using the tang sight.

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Kilo, only equivalent at the muzzle to a pistol, the heavier bullets moving the same speed hold their energy longer, like a larger lead shot pellet is better than the same size in steel but the muzzle energy comparison between the 44 Mag and the 410 is actually kind of crazy, I think the 410 is closer to the 41 Rem Mag but makes the 357 look like a toy round. Either way I was flamed for shooting wood and a bucket to see what it would do and asking if it would be enough, not ideal. A 30-30 at 300 yards would be enough for a deer but not ideal, plus many of the guys with 30-30s have irons and a 300 shot on a pie plate with irons is a tough task.

Off-hand shooting and rapid off-hand shooting is sobering, you can put 5 shots in a dime at 200 yards off the bench but 5 shots rapidly fired at 50 yards with the same rifle into a pie plate is a whole different animal. If you have a hill to do it on put cardboard inside a tire and roll it down a hill and hit the paper as it goes by, I have not done this yet but I have been told that is the best training for hunting running deer.

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Originally Posted by Species8472

Welsh you are ruining my preconceived image of you. Always thought of you as a well heeled gentleman toting a finely crafted Merkel. Now I find out you are a "hold my beer" SKS toting redneck like the rest of us. :joker:

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It's a craft beer. ;)

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It's a craft beer. ;)

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http://www.beerinfinity.com/wp-conte...stout-beer.jpg

??? :D

ROFL. Nice one Fox!

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Originally Posted by welsh

ROFL. Nice one Fox!

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You have to match the firearm right :)

We are talking Russian SKS though, for the Chinese version it would be something like this.

https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qim...t_to_webp=true

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Originally Posted by Fox

You have to match the firearm right :)

We are talking Russian SKS though, for the Chinese version it would be something like this.

https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qim...t_to_webp=true

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I have TYPE 56......I've never drank beer from a bag through a straw........however now considering that as an option......

There will always be anti-gun, anti-hunter, anti everything people. Pay no attention to them. Guns are super fun.

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

Who the heck is flaming you?

Always enjoy plinking with my guns.

Your SKS is a lot of fun, but you'll likely get it down to "minute of barn door", instead of MOA....however, just about as much fun as you can have with your pants on anyhow.

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Minute of barn door. Not sure if you've own one or not but I have a Russian model and it is very accurate. Iron sights and all. Line052 will attest. From about 70 yards out from prone position I could take a golf ball off a tee over and over again. For a fun rifle can't get much more accurate than that. In fact, because of the sights on it I feel i am more accurate with it than I am with my 30/30 open sights. Other than that I tend to still enjoy my guns. Making my own targets. Spent co2 pellet gun canisters make great little targets. I always pick up my garbage when I leave. Or use vegetables. They make great little targets and food for the critters.


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I love to turn nitro cellulose into smoke and noise, every chance I get.

Fox,

I wouldn't worry about the uppities who get their gitch in a not when they see something they don't approve of. Those same people scream the loudest when their spotlight is turned on them. Go out, be safe and shot until your heart is content (or your shoulder is sore).

Dyth

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Minute of barn door. Not sure if you've own one or not but I have a Russian model and it is very accurate. Iron sights and all. Line052 will attest. From about 70 yards out from prone position I could take a golf ball off a tee over and over again. For a fun rifle can't get much more accurate than that. In fact, because of the sights on it I feel i am more accurate with it than I am with my 30/30 open sights.
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Some are, some aren't. By and large the SKS was never intended to be an accurate rifle. A lot of the Russian Tula ones seem to fare better in that dept than others. My type 56 is actually quite accurate, but can be inconsistent.

Much of the inconsistencies are less about the rifle than the Milsurp ammo being fed. But we could go on and on about SKSs. One of my faves.

For me the fun starts the minute I pull the trigger and hear "Bang".


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I love the smell of cordite on a crisp cool morning when the guns are pounding down range...used to spends weeks on the ranges shooting with the military and it never got old.

Still surprised there is no Febreze scent for it, would be a great Air fresher for the man cave :)

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Still surprised there is no Febreze scent for it, would be a great Air fresher for the man cave :)

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I just leave a bunch of cloths soaked in CLP lying around...it seems to do it for me.

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Originally Posted by Fox

I am getting flamed for shooting for fun to see what my guns can do, have we lost the enjoyment of seeing what our guns can do? I remember as a kid we would shoot hundreds and hundreds of rounds just to shoot and we would learn what we could do. I would shoot tin cans at 100 yards with an old 22LR Cooey 82 trainer and iron sights. We would shoot saplings down at close range just to see them fall. We would shoot center fire rifles for hours and until our shoulders were blue and figure out what we actually had.

I just picked up an SKS, so much fun, not accurate as of yet but a riot. Bringing out the 410 has made me enjoy testing things again and reloading once again has brought back my joy of learning about shooting, the history behind it and brought back the respect of a "baby" gun.

I am waiting on a shipment from Cabelas of a new scope for my 22LR, going to setup some targets at 100,200 and 300 yards to see what I can do prone off a bipod, why? Just because I can.

Does anyone else play with their guns at the range or do we all just punch enough paper to know we will hit a deer at 100 yards and be done with it.

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Well, for starters...I'm not sure who "flamed" you or why, but having read this entire thread..I think I've sorted it out. If you're wondering whether or not shooters like ME are in your corner? H*LL yes! Listen~I flew across Canada last spring to spend 7 full days shooting gophers is Southern Alberta. The amount of time and $ I spent on that trip and preparing for it? I'm sure your garden-variety Ontario big-game hunter would scoff at it. lol If THAT'S not shooting for shooting's sake, I'm not sure what is. We did such a good job on those properties that we've been invited back. Not sure the 2017 budget will allow for it unfortunately (airfare/car rental) but we'll see. Anyhow, 99.9% of the shooting I do really is for the heck of it and yes...allot of it is owed to a child-like obsession I have with seeing things rearranged from a distance. Started with slingshots as a young kid, borrowed air pistol, cheap/powerful spring piston Chinese air rifle, 22 LR, inherited 12ga...then I turned 17. lol It's only really grown from then to more of the same, only with better guns that have more reach. I love guns themselves, the heft, the smell, cleaning them, shooting them, teaching others to shoot them, etc. etc. They play a big role in my life, yet I've never been deer/bear/moose hunting...nor do I have plans to. (deer maybe :) )

Calibers matter less, but, when it comes to prolonged shooting sessions (which I prefer) I've always loved rimfires for a host of reasons. Cost, low-noise, low-recoil, challenge, great for teaching new shooters, etc. I have and use .22s most, but also play with 17M2 and 17HMR from time to time. Had a 22WMR for a couple of years, sold it off when the .223 took over for groundhog duty. :) Speaking of groundhogs...yes...another thing I love to shoot and because of that pastime.. have forged great relationships with several farmers. In fact, spoke to one at lunch time today, he's asked me to head out there on the weekend to rid his barn of pigeons. In the truck will be my air rifle, 12ga, sling shot and an ammo can full of 1/2" ball bearings. :) Not the first time I've had this request. :)


Varmint stuff aside, I've had almost as much fun shooting clays (12ga), frozen vegetables/pop cans / balloons / paper targets with the rimfires and in the last year or so, my "new" 1954 Russian SKS. Fought the temptation to buy one for a decade or so then one day last spring, I suddenly wondered why I kept putting it off. I only shoot non-corrosive ammo through it, and the only upgrade (beside a significant cleaning/de-cosmoline process) was an upgraded front sight post. (steel, finer "target" post) I sure wouldn't describe it as "minute of barn door" either. Off an improvised rest, I watched my buddy put 5 rounds in a 1-1/2" circle at 60 yards with mine last spring shortly after I got it. Is it my .223 shooting lovingly-prepared hand loads into 1 ragged hole @ 100 yards? No, but a ton of fun just the same. I know I've turned at least one shooter into an SKS fan after letting him run mine one afternoon. He now has one of his own!


So yes...add me to the list of shooters who like shooting for the SAKE of shooting. Only thing holding me back from other rifles/calibers is my budget, or lack of it. I was fortunate enough to try a friend's Marlin 1895G in 45/70 last year and while I have ZERO need for a 45/70, I've thought about that gun nearly every day since. Talk about rearranging things from a distance. Pull the trigger on that rifle, in that caliber...wow. Talk about a feast for the senses. Hefty recoil, slick lever action, a cigar-tube-sized brass case ejecting from the side of this compact little beauty..the "want" factor is a huge! :)

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So yes...add me to the list of shooters who like shooting for the SAKE of shooting. Only thing holding me back from other rifles/calibers is my budget, or lack of it. I was fortunate enough to try a friend's Marlin 1895G in 45/70 last year and while I have ZERO need for a 45/70, I've thought about that gun nearly every day since. Talk about rearranging things from a distance. Pull the trigger on that rifle, in that caliber...wow. Talk about a feast for the senses. Hefty recoil, slick lever action, a cigar-tube-sized brass case ejecting from the side of this compact little beauty..the "want" factor is a huge! :)

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I wish my shoulder was in better shape, heavy recoil was what I loved, shooting the 30-06 at 12 was awesome. The 45-70 does not really have all that much sharp recoil, it is more of a push, I had the chance to shoot one at the gun club, the worst recoil is the turkey loads by far, makes slugs feel like a joke.

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Originally Posted by Fox

I wish my shoulder was in better shape, heavy recoil was what I loved, shooting the 30-06 at 12 was awesome. The 45-70 does not really have all that much sharp recoil, it is more of a push, I had the chance to shoot one at the gun club, the worst recoil is the turkey loads by far, makes slugs feel like a joke.

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^I would agree with that statement! lol 45/70 is more than a push, but nowhere near what a 3-1/2" turkey load is. Even the 3" turkey loads aren't much fun. In fact, my buddy's Remington 11-87 SuperMag didn't even survive the 3-1/2" turkey loads he fed it while patterning early last spring.

A few years ago, I was at a range beside a guy sighting in the scope on his slug gun, shooting 3". Cheap scope too, not enough eye relief...small-framed/light guy~you know the rest. I suspect he drove right to the hospital after he left the range to get his eyebrow put back together. He seemed more disappointed that he wouldn't have the gun set-up so I offered to take-over while he spotted. We got it sorted out.

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Originally Posted by GrouseWhisperer

^I would agree with that statement! lol 45/70 is more than a push, but nowhere near what a 3-1/2" turkey load is. Even the 3" turkey loads aren't much fun. In fact, my buddy's Remington 11-87 SuperMag didn't even survive the 3-1/2" turkey loads he fed it while patterning early last spring.

A few years ago, I was at a range beside a guy sighting in the scope on his slug gun, shooting 3". Cheap scope too, not enough eye relief...small-framed/light guy~you know the rest. I suspect he drove right to the hospital after he left the range to get his eyebrow put back together. He seemed more disappointed that he wouldn't have the gun set-up so I offered to take-over while he spotted. We got it sorted out.

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I sighted in my 870 prone for deer season, scope just tapped my shooting glasses :O.

If it could not handle the 3 1/2" it was not made right, I have been shooting my 870 for 16 years, really shooting it, target loads, 3 1/2" waterfowl loads, slugs, up to heavy turkey loads, I have had 1 ejector rail (locks in the barrels) crack and need to be replaced in all that time, that and one barrel I bought used had a sticky chamber and needed a steel wool polish but that is all. That ejector rail thing he suspected was because the barrels may not have been really tight, this is a known problem on the 870.

30-06 with a hard plastic butt plate, 180gr, no problem at all, fun to shoot and better as an express with open sights, I still love the open sights.

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^I would agree with that statement! lol 45/70 is more than a push, but nowhere near what a 3-1/2" turkey load is. Even the 3" turkey loads aren't much fun. In fact, my buddy's Remington 11-87 SuperMag didn't even survive the 3-1/2" turkey loads he fed it while patterning early last spring.

A few years ago, I was at a range beside a guy sighting in the scope on his slug gun, shooting 3". Cheap scope too, not enough eye relief...small-framed/light guy~you know the rest. I suspect he drove right to the hospital after he left the range to get his eyebrow put back together. He seemed more disappointed that he wouldn't have the gun set-up so I offered to take-over while he spotted. We got it sorted out.

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That's part of the fun with a .45-70. Some loads will seriously rattle your fillings and others are very mild mannered. The 405 grain Remington CoreLokts don't seem to have any more recoil than a .30-30. Like you, I didn't have any real need for a .45-70 either, but I bought an 1895G a little less than 2 years ago because I just had to scratch the big-bore itch. Aside from being fun on the range it's the nicest "carrying" rifle I have. Especially with just a set of peep sights.

If you've been thinking about one that much you need one more than you think....:cool:

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That's part of the fun with a .45-70. Some loads will seriously rattle your fillings and others are very mild mannered. The 405 grain Remington CoreLokts don't seem to have any more recoil than a .30-30. Like you, I didn't have any real need for a .45-70 either, but I bought an 1895G a little less than 2 years ago because I just had to scratch the big-bore itch. Aside from being fun on the range it's the nicest "carrying" rifle I have. Especially with just a set of peep sights.

If you've been thinking about one that much you need one more than you think....:cool:

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Most companies load the 45-70 down for older guns, I know a few people who hot load them in the newer lever guns, those hurt.

And some of us older fellas used to legally do this with handguns, even ones with 3" barrels or 32 and 25 caliber.....

Lets get things straight here, read the threads over again, not one person "flamed" you for shooting for fun, they flamed you for the way you posted your trolling threads. Had you posted things in a different manner your threads would have turned out much better for you and you would even be able to show your face on CGN again without the shame that you obviously have now.


Not one person on THIS site or CGN is going to flame anyone for shooting for fun!! Posting up trolling threads on the other hand, you had better wear a flame retardant suit and have a backbone to back it up instead of tucking tail and running...........


Then you come into a different section and twist things around again.......no one flamed you for "shooting for fun".

I shoot for fun its called warming up for hunt seasons . I showed a friend my full wood Enfield 2A in 762 and he said what in the H%ll are you going to do with that ?? I said go out in the bush and have fun

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That's part of the fun with a .45-70. Some loads will seriously rattle your fillings and others are very mild mannered. The 405 grain Remington CoreLokts don't seem to have any more recoil than a .30-30. Like you, I didn't have any real need for a .45-70 either, but I bought an 1895G a little less than 2 years ago because I just had to scratch the big-bore itch. Aside from being fun on the range it's the nicest "carrying" rifle I have. Especially with just a set of peep sights.

If you've been thinking about one that much you need one more than you think....:cool:

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^I'll let my wife know. :) I suspect she'll notice the $1,000 on the credit card statement. lol The Marlin 1895G has given me a reason to start visiting Bass Pro again...to give that rifle a hug. :) I used one to shoot gophers in Alberta last spring. Not for long, ammo is too $$$ but it was fun when I did connect. Agreed, just handling one brings a smile to your face. Great size/weight/balance.