Just wondering if there is a legal alternative for gps tracking dogs in Canada other than Garmin?
Thanks
Dustin Colyer
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Just wondering if there is a legal alternative for gps tracking dogs in Canada other than Garmin?
Thanks
Dustin Colyer
Not for a GPS as far as I know.
I use a DOgtra 2500 which allows me at least to know where my dog is up to about 1+ miles depending on the terrain.
What store's sell the dogtra 2500?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharon
Sportdog tec2.0 I believe is legal in Canada. Or go back to a telemetry collar.
The dogtra2500 is a ecollar with a beeper.
The sportdog tec2 is a GPS based system.
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Many including Dakota Creek- member on here. Just PM her.Quote:
Originally Posted by missy83
PS I forgot to say that yes the Dogtra 2500 has a beeper but you have 3 choices of beeping. I use it on the silent beeper mode if I'm wondering where the heck the dog is. One other choice is to have the beeper start up when the dog is on point.
its also good to find lost collars eh Sharon :silly:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharon
The garmins work fine up here. I know many guys using them with no problems.
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The way I understand is I order the unit to a p.o box say in Buffalo and go over and pick it up. I can't go into the states. I need to find a supplier who will deliver to Canada if that's possible?Quote:
Originally Posted by rippin_355
No supplier in Canada . You have to pick it up in the USA; the law is there for a reason ; personally I choose to follow it.
Absolutely. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
Double U hound supply in yacolt Washington ships to Canada.Quote:
Originally Posted by missy83
Thanks. I will check them outQuote:
Originally Posted by trkyhntr21
The Sport Tech 2 system is approved for sale in Canada. You can buy them at Cabelas in Ottawa.
The older telemetry systems are not legal in Canada anymore either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just ask for a licence from Industry Canada.
Industry Canada has a search mechanism to find systems that are legal.
Lotek has approved collars for our professors to track, owls, wolves, deer, moose, mice, coons, snakes, bears and fish, etc.
My Wildlife box bought in Canada in 1995 from a retail store in Markham , 218 frequency. Not allowed anymore. I have the original letter from Industry Canada when they were allowed. Somehow they arbitrarily decided they are not allowed anymore. The houndsmen have used and bought telemetry systems for over 50 years in Canada. Thanks for getting my blood pressure up.
It all comes down to money, if Garmin bought out or paid for a modest handful of existing licence holders in the MURS frequency , or developed a separate collar for Canada they would be allowed. Industry Canada has done an extensive study. If hundreds of hounds with collars , converge on the Tim Hortons in Cochrane , the drive through "might" get your double double mixed up!
I have the study, send me your email, I will get you a copy.
The Sportdog Tek1.0 and 2.0 are definitely GPS-based systems and seem to work just great. Perhaps the Garmin is better but I'm not sure that there is a lot of evidence of that. As far as I can tell the Tek 1.0 works in very heavy cover up to a kilometer (at least, I don't let my dog get much further than that) . SportDog says it can work up to 11km but I think you and your dog would have to be on top of a tower 11 km from each other to see that performance. The Tek is cheap at Cabelas right now.
I have a Garmin Astro 320 that works great. Got it from F&T Fur Harvesters and have bought spare collars from Conkeys Hound Supply. Both were good to deal with and had no problem shipping to Canada. I can usually track for 3-4 miles in heavy cover and hills.
Do it show up on a map? Or just a bearing and distance?
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We use the new Garmins and they will show on your handheld GPS map and also on a laptop in real time. We can see all dogs at the same time on the lap top, I believe this was accomplished with an app but I did not set it up myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by lifeOfBarney
Tek 1.0 has no map but the Tek 2.0 does which explains the difference in price I think.
I have discovered another system that is approved by Industry Canada for use in Canada. dogtra Pathfinder. It uses a collar and receiver, then utilizes bluetooth to transfer the location onto your smart phone. I met Laurie Hewitt at Carp Gun show, she sells them . www.hewittcustommillwork.com/dogtra
I belive that's illegal to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart22
If Stuart says they are legal then they are legal. Nobody has done the research he has nor follows the rules like he does.
We will see. Other sources claim it's the same as Garmin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharon
It is legal, I contacted Marc Corbin of Industry . Here are the results of the Industry Canada search for legal conforming equipment.
Dogtra Co. Ltd.
Hardware Version Certificate # Approval Date
IW 500 12166A-IW500 2014-08-27
IW 501 12166A-IW501 2014-08-27
I've wasted over two years of my life , trying to get the other system approved, that thousands of houndsmen already use in Canada. It is unfortunate .
Dogtra has the similar features, tracking, utilizes google maps, or whatever you download to your smart phone, has both tone and stimulation, it claims similar performance. It claims tracking of up to 20 dogs. I don't remember the exact frequency, I believe it is 232 mhz. One retailer is going to demonstrate it for houndsmen at a fox hound trial this weekend.
Dogtra Pathfinder works with a smartphone and Google gps maps.
Over a full day's hunt would that not put a big dent in your data pkg?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dakota Creek
Dogtra states that data is necessary for initially downloading the Pathfinder app but after the app is downloaded no data is needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by terrym
If you can hear that beeper from a mile away your hearing must be better than the dog's LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharon
You sure about that ? I've never heard of anyone else getting that kind range with their Garmins in cover & hills.Quote:
Originally Posted by claj
Definitely depends on the terrain. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by sidelock