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Why can't they leave it alone they are chasing through town
They need to leave this poor moose alone . They will end shooting and say it was unsafe running in town if they would of left it alone it would still be in the woods
Sorry for the rant
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Live footage on cp-24 following the moose on now.
Yea that's what my rant was about . I new I was going to get silly when they send everyone in to the scene. To stupid they should of left him alone . He has been area about a month nowQuote:
Originally Posted by geo27
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This is a full grown bull moose. They need to get him out of the urban area and back into the forests of Ontario before something bad happens. This is an animal which is taller than a horse, heavier than a bear and can run up to 56km/h. If he decides he doesn't like you, he will stomp you. Trying to get him back into more familiar surroundings is a better option than just leaving him be.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
So it's going to be ok if they kill it like the Newmarket bear. Like I said the moose has been in the area for a while nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Dythbringer
Pics have already been posted around from the beginning of the month. . When they start chasing it now it's on a rampage guess its ok kill em.
Maybe calling animal control the cops and the ministry is not the greatest way of doing things. Maybe chasing it with a helicopter is ok . Why do they need all these people at the scene before they are ready take down the animal in a proper way .
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Leave the moose alone when your ready and have every thing in place then take it down and remove him the proper way.
No let's chase it with ki n helicopter see what that does.
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They are putting more people at risk by doing this . They are refueling the helicopter just cost thousands of unnecessary money
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This animal has been around since the beginning of the month and obviously has no plans to move. Chasing it with a helicopter isn't practical. This bull moose won't move unless the chopper is close to him (he isn't moving with airplanes taking off and landing) and putting a chopper that close to him with buildings around is dangerous. One cross wind and the chopper goes down.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
I have zero problem with putting this animal down if it has to come to that. This is a large, wild animal in an urban environment. Are you comfortable with a person getting injured or killed because you wanted the animal left alone? What if it was someone close to you? I wouldn't want that on my conscience.
The MNRF, who are the experts in Ontario for wildlife management, have determined that this moose needs to be relocated and you are saying they are wrong?
Except moose can be extremely efficient at hiding when they want to be. Having a team on standby for one single moose is an extreme waste of resources.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
Yes it does. There is another less expensive option but I suspect you wouldn't be happy with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
Dyth
Its awful seeing him run and being chased (or being so spooked he won't stop running). Just a bad situation all around.
Leave the moose alone and move the people.
More people are at risk by doing this then leaving it alone. When it crosses the road and someone hits it or causes a fatal accident this will be on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dythbringer
So you live in the city and its ok to the kill the moose because it's not supposed to be there. Sounds like a great plan. There is enough wooded area there where it will be fine where it was.
All I was saying is there was other ways to deal with it without sending everyone there to spook it . Let's chase it and see what happens. Sound like something the cityiots would do.
Just leave the damn thing alone it wasn't bugging anyone.
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It is near a 400 series highway in Toronto. The potential for a multi-vehicle accident if he decides to cross the 404 is very real which puts people's lives in danger if he isn't relocated. This isn't a large deer. This is a 900+ lb bull moose. Large, wild animals do not belong in the city.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
I said if it came down to that I don't have an issue with the MNRF having to put him down. Ideally he could figure out that he doesn't belong in an urban setting and move on but he hasn't. So why hasn't he. A very real possibility is he can't figure out how to get out of the GTA. I don't think you appreciate how much room a moose needs to survive.
No, he wasn't bugging anyone but letting him stay where he was isn't an option either. Winter is coming and the GTA isn't known to contain the amount of browse he will need to survive, nor the species of browse. The best situation is to try to move the moose along and let him get back into better surroundings for him and remove the potential for any moose-human interactions.
https://youtu.be/TCanEolI6-0
Who put these people at risk today? I bet if it was left alone it wouldn't be running through the streets.
Leaving it alone would not have put anyone in danger .
Chasing after it and sending a bunch of people to it is the worst thing they could of done. None of them even know how to handle the situation but jump right in . Makes no sense to me ..
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It may not have been running through the streets if they left it along but leaving it alone doesn't lessen the potential harm that results from a moose-human interaction. You seem to support a position that if it is left alone nothing bad will happen. It is a nice sentiment but ignores the danger this moose poses to people. This moose's presence in the city means there is a real danger that a moose/vehicle collision may happen at any moment or the moose may attack a person if they unknowingly get too close. That danger isn't one people can or should ignore.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
According to this story is isn't the police or MNRF (they are tracking it with a drone) causing the moose to run but the public and the news copters: https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...e-airport.html
I think the MNRF and police know what they are doing.
In fact, I would suspect that charging in and chasing the moose is the last thing the MNRF and police would do. They want to tranq and relocate this thing. A calm moose means when they tranq it, it won't run too far as opposed to an animal jacked up on adrenaline.
They reported this morning that they called wildlife management the police and mnr to the scene . Why would they have everyone show up . Do you think having all them people there would not scare it off. ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dythbringer
Why do the police need to be involved to protect the wildlife management?
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The police are there for public safety. They actually closed roads to let it cross safely. Neither MNRF or Wildlife Services have authority to close a road.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...=elk+king+cityQuote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
end result when a large animal is left alone out of its element. Relatively rural compared to where the moose is now. Elk was left to roam end result dead on the side of the road along with personal and property damage. Was that a better result?
I am hoping your comments are just to bash the powers that be and not based in rational thought.
Police to deal with the public and the MNRF to actually deal with the moose. People in Toronto would have more experience dealing with police than CO's.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
Another good reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
Just saying there was probably a better way to deal withit . Not everyone needed to be involeved to remove the animal safely . We all know already it's going to run so why not leave for the appropriate time and people to deal with it.
Wouldn't have had to block the roads if they didn't chase it off.
I'm done with this tread .
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Fish food: do you believe the police and MNR wanted all the people, gawkers and news helicopters all over the place ? You are correct that there was too much action but leaving it alone is not a solution, it would likely end badly. Take out an ad in the paper and try to educate the Citiots.
So why would they call them all . If they call 3 different units and a few people from each place comes. There's a dozen people they just called in then the media and so on. Now just because there was a moose near the road or at the air port now with 20 people around because they called in every one. With having so many involved it's bound to spook it and run.Quote:
Originally Posted by 73hunter
That is deffenently not the way to do things.
Ok so there is a moose in the area it should not be in . Ok we get that so now let's being the proper process call the appropriate people let them know. That's a start . I bet they all showed up there without a plan without any proper equipment to deal with the situation. The problem cant be solved by sending a dozen people to scene it just doesn't work so why do it. The moose would of moved into the woods without a problem. Having a few people come by when they are ready to look for this moose should have been the proper way.
Can't show up to a gun battle with out a gun right you loose same sinario . Same out come every time it's not their first rodeo they have done this in the past and always same thing. Usually with the animal shot and killed . So why do they bother sending everyone at the same time when the animal is ALWAYS going to run in an uncontrolled way.
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some of you sound like the animal rights nazis so many of us complain about... I thought I was on PETA sight... "leave the moose and move the people"? wtf? If this thing rampages through an urban area it needs to be put down... It ain't going to find it's way back to Muskoka...
and serve the meat at a homeless shelter...
What ever happen to the moose ? Anybody know .
Surprisingly, they won’t take wild meat !!!! At least not around here. Go figure !Quote:
Originally Posted by Splaker
Why such a lack of confidence in Bullwinkle, did you not hear about a Moose tagged in Algonquin Park and subsequently located down in the Adirondacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splaker
Yea. Tried that a few years ago when anterless deer tags were very plentiful. Got told they couldn't accept the meat because there was no way I could guarantee the meat was disease free. Shame really. However, I have learned that only government shelters/food banks can't take the game. A soup kitchen run by a church apparently can.Quote:
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