Skins,pelts,hides

Maybe the wrong place sorry if it is. I am looking for information about the law of keeping a skin of a bear I hunt legally during open season and posses a tag for.
Can I keep it or not? In some things I've read I need a license to possess it in other areas I've read that if I hunt it legally I don't need a licence.
Also as far as I always knew it's illegal to sell or gift any part of an animal you've hunted, but again I read you do not need a license to possess a bear skin if you hunted it legally or it was given to you by a person who legally acquired it by hunting....
Can anyone shed some light on what is the actual law, I am confused and can't seem to find the answer on line.


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No licence required. Your bear licence was your licence ....

https://www.ontario.ca/page/keep-dead-wild-animal


https://www.ontario.ca/laws/view

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No licence required. Your bear licence was your licence ....

https://www.ontario.ca/page/keep-dead-wild-animal


https://www.ontario.ca/laws/view

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A bear isn’t classed as a fur bearing mammal, it’s a game mammal.....See Schedule 1 FWCA, and Schedule 2.

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A bear isn’t classed as a fur bearing mammal, it’s a game mammal.....See Schedule 1 FWCA, and Schedule 2.

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... damn. I got all excited that I found something in the regs. Hahaha good on you sir

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... damn. I got all excited that I found something in the regs. Hahaha good on you sir

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Yea, those regs are just a summary. You have to go to the actual Act to see the interpretations and meanings....

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Yea, those regs are just a summary. You have to go to the actual Act to see the interpretations and meanings....

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Oh,yeah...We should also mention that not only the FWCAct,but,all the Ontario regulations that pertain to it. The more you get into it,the harder it is to understand. When we take a pelt from a big game animal under the authority of a license and tag,it's ours to do with as we wish. Just don't waste it. That'll get you into trouble.

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Oh,yeah...We should also mention that not only the FWCAct,but,all the Ontario regulations that pertain to it. The more you get into it,the harder it is to understand. When we take a pelt from a big game animal under the authority of a license and tag,it's ours to do with as we wish. Just don't waste it. That'll get you into trouble.

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Big game animals don’t have pelts......they have hides..
Furbearers have pelts......the wasting only deals with pelts from furbearers.....just sayin” lol..

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Big game animals don’t have pelts......they have hides..
Furbearers have pelts......the wasting only deals with pelts from furbearers.....just sayin” lol..

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Right,but,it's still an offense to let a hide spoil.

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No...that’s only pelts from furbearing animals......if that were the case, everybody throwing moose and deer hides out would be in violation. The dumps up north are full of them. The butcher we use up there has a trailer that is usually full of hides, heads and bones that the wolf baiters come and get.....COs in and out of there all the time......

FWCA

Miscellaneous

Abandoned and spoiled meat, pelts, etc.

Abandonment of meat

[COLOR=#505050]36 (1) A hunter or trapper who kills game wildlife other than a furbearing mammal shall not abandon it if its flesh may become unsuitable for human consumption. 2009, c. 33, Sched. 22, s. 2 (18).
Spoiled flesh

[COLOR=#505050](2) A person who possesses game wildlife that is not a furbearing mammal and that was hunted or trapped shall not permit its flesh to become unsuitable for human consumption. 2009, c. 33, Sched. 22, s. 2 (18).
Abandonment or spoilage of pelts

[COLOR=#505050](3) A hunter or trapper who kills a furbearing mammal shall not abandon the pelt or permit the pelt to be spoiled or destroyed. 1997, c. 41, s. 36 (3).

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

No...that’s only pelts from furbearing animals......if that were the case, everybody throwing moose and deer hides out would be in violation. The dumps up north are full of them. The butcher we use up there has a trailer that is usually full of hides, heads and bones that the wolf baiters come and get.....COs in and out of there all the time......

FWCA

Miscellaneous

Abandoned and spoiled meat, pelts, etc.

Abandonment of meat

[COLOR=#505050]36 (1) A hunter or trapper who kills game wildlife other than a furbearing mammal shall not abandon it if its flesh may become unsuitable for human consumption. 2009, c. 33, Sched. 22, s. 2 (18).
Spoiled flesh

[COLOR=#505050](2) A person who possesses game wildlife that is not a furbearing mammal and that was hunted or trapped shall not permit its flesh to become unsuitable for human consumption. 2009, c. 33, Sched. 22, s. 2 (18).
Abandonment or spoilage of pelts

[COLOR=#505050](3) A hunter or trapper who kills a furbearing mammal shall not abandon the pelt or permit the pelt to be spoiled or destroyed. 1997, c. 41, s. 36 (3).

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Thank you for that clarification,Rick. I'm making note of it.

I agree with all said above. The main issue is how the bear hide is harvested. Was it harvested under a Bear License or a Fur Manager (Trappers) License.

In simple terms a bear is only considered as a fur bearing animal if harvested under a trappers license. Once you tag (hunting) the raw pelt and leave the tag on the raw pelt you are in legal possession of it after the closed season. Whereas Trappers do not have to tag their bear pelts, instead they need a holding permit to possess the raw pelt after the closed season.

Once the pelt has been processed (taxi) or tanned, you no longer need any permit to possess. I am talking a bear in Ontario anyway.

This entire post has been very educational especially since I want to get some pelts and / or hides from the local butcher and attempt tanning.

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Trappers must have a bear tag to trap a bear. Trappers are not allowed to just set bear sets under their trapping license.


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So I guess you have to skin and save the pelt of any skunk, possum, coon or red squirrel that you might be thinking of as a nuisance animal and shoot them??

You do not need a bear tag if you have a trapping license in Ontario
3. (1) A trapping licence authorizes the holder to hunt or trap furbearing mammals and black bear in the area designated in the licence, subject to section 8. O. Reg. 667/98, s. 3 (1); O. Reg. 369/12, s. 2.