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I saw on facebook last night that someone was searching for they're lost 'pet' a russian boar. Is that legal if its considered an invasive species? I wanted to ask on the post but I didn't want to get chewed up by the facebook police. I also wanted to point out that there are parts of ontario where the MNR allows people to kill them, but I figured I'd be really upsetting people looking for this lost pet.
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It's legal to have Wild Boar game farms that sell to restaurants, exotic pet zoos, etc...so if someone in those businesses allows family member to keep one as pet on the farm, that is probably legal but would fall under tight controls.
More context and the facts behind the to the story are needed or we'll end up going round and round with further speculation and 'what if' scenarios.
edit add;....it looks like the law governing exotic pets in Ont are left up to municipal by-laws...
yeah for sure.... Like I said, i almost commented on it and asked but figured I'd ask on here. Not trying to stir the pot on anything or turn this into a 12 page flame fest that ends up talking about cougars or something completely different. haha
Thanks mike
Good chance that boar is going to end up shot.
yup..not that long ago...
http://ottawasun.com/2015/11/19/huge...5-890c18ee17caQuote:
Blair, a hunter, said he shot the boar because he was aware of a Ministry of Natural Resources and Forestry edict from 2014 allowing farmers, landowners or hunters to shoot wild, or feral boars on sight as nuisance animals. In addition to the damage and disease concerns, wild boars can also pose a threat to people.
It never crossed his mind the animal might have been a pet.
“I think I was justified in what I did,” said Blair, who only learned the boar had been a pet after the Sun published the story online on Thursday. "This couldn’t be worse."
Maybe that last fiasco will cause a person to think twice before pulling the trigger !
He only did as he was asked to do by MNRF. At least in this case the boar was miles off the farm.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
It adds something else to think about for hunters,without doubt,but,if I found one or two running loose in the woods,I still wouldn't hesitate to take them out. It's not illegal to do so,in Ontario,and it can slow down the proliferation of a feral species tearing up the countryside,hence,the edict from OMNRF asking that any hogs running loose be shot on sight. Besides,it's free meat and smoked hams and bacon are delicious.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
You may feel bad for the family that lost a pet, but what can you do. Same thing with cats. I am sorry fluffy did not come home but maybe fluffy should have been kept in the house and not let roam miles away in the bush.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Look at this way. At least the pet( cat/pig ) was not eaten alive by a bear/coyote(wolf) pack/cougar/martin/hawk/owl/eagle......
How many people on here can honestly say, that if they where sitting in their tree stand or blind, and a wild or feral pig walked by you wouldn’t shoot it?
I would probably be thinking how much anti bio tics or steroids has a vet pumped into this animal and how good would it be to eat?Quote:
Originally Posted by fishhawk
I would shoot it without hesitation, how can anyone distinguish if its a pet or not. Regardless if its a pet or farmed hog, if they get out and cause damage to other farms the owner should be charged with a fine. Hogs are dangerous and invasive and we don't need them in Ontario. I don't feel bad for the family who lost there Hog, I feel bad for the guy who shot it and is getting harassed with nonsense .
I wished they would invade Ontario in huge numbers. From what I've seen on the tube, looks like hunting them could make for a great time in the outdoorsQuote:
Originally Posted by tom gobble
Im not saying it wouldn't be fun to have the opportunity to hunt them in Ontario but the outcome of crop damage would be a problem not welcomed by our farmersQuote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
I would not hesitate to shoot it. It would be a tasty pleasure. And I would not be the least concerned about the owners feelings. (I might ask him over for dinner). People who own one have a huge responsibility to keep them securely corralled. We Do Not need them in Canada. I would go so far as to say it should be illegal to own them.
If your fence will hold water, then it will hold pigs. Only thing I have ever seen a pig NEVER escape from is a freezer or Oven/BBQ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roper
So with that is mind own pet pigs at your own risk.
I hope all the farmers who give you permission to hunt sees your opinion on one of the worse pest to a farm, both their crops and livestock.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
If they see your post you may just lose your hunting land.
Pretty sure he was joking...be chillQuote:
Originally Posted by Fox
ever eat a hot dog at a ball game or order a pizza if you put that much thought into it youre sure to ruin your meal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Yep. If you ever saw what goes into hot dogs,you'd never have them in your house let alone eat one. Picture mashed up lips,foreskins and arseholes. Bon Apetite! There,now,I've got my Thermos, rifle and shells,goin' road runnin' for 'yotes. Catch you later.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deer Wrastler
He is not the first person to suggest we bring these in on purpose as a new hunting species. It reminds me of all the people who think releasing carp from their homeland is a good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deer Wrastler
I own my own land so i could care less. I see every year how many acres of crop get destroyed by the local deer and bear in my area, and its far more than most would think. Doesnt seem to be an issue of concern, just accept it and move on. Maybe if we had them in this province it would bring farmers land owners and hunters to have better working relations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Hunters and farmers used to have great working relations but hunters ruined it. When they tell you not to drive through the field don't drive through the field because you are too lazy to walk. The number of incidents from lazy or dirty hunters is huge.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
If you think deer and bear can do damage add in one of the most prolific reproducers with a rooting ability. If you have not seen what pigs can do on dirt maybe contact a pig farmer who pastures them, it is insane, nothing like what a deer can do. Deer will eat the crop, pigs will make it so nothing can grow again for years.
Maybe,you could contact farmers in western NY,Pennsylvania,Virginia and Kentucky and ask them what the damage is like from one or two sounders of Wild Hogs. They'd sure be glad to explain it to you. New York has put a moratorium on hunting them. Some whack job academic came up with the ridiculous notion that when they're hunted,the reproductive cycle adapts to compensate and there's a higher birth rate and shorter gestation period resulting in more Hogs,not less. It's still an unproven theory,but sounds like animal rights BS to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
That’s what they say about coyotes....the more we shoot, the more pups they have...Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Only thing about that which would worry me, is do I have enough Ammo.:thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
Theres been carp in the great lakes and tributaries for years and years. What have they done to ruin the great lakes fisheries? The salmon in the great lakes have whipped out far more fish than any carp ever has in the same waters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Canines are different with their social system though, only the Alphas breed unless there is a population drop then the others start to breed, so if coyote populations get low in an area then yes they will have more babies.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
Pigs do not work like this, they have multiple litters a year and do not have that sort of society.
Asian carp, snakehead, lots of other fish have been introduced relatively recently that are decimating other fish stocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Bass being moved on trains to Northern Ontario destroyed native fisheries.
Taken directly from the Ontario website: " If Asian carps become established in Ontario waters, they could potentially eat the food supply that our native fish depend on and crowd them out of their habitat. " not to mention diseases and parasites that can be introduced when people release foreign fish into Ontario waters.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30