Trespassing Cat

I'm looking for opinion on the legalese of getting rid of a neighbours cat. The neighbour in question has been asked, pleaded to and warned several times to keep her cat away from my property here at the cabin. I asked the township about it and was told we don't have anything on the books about cats? Dogs, yes, but not cats? Neighbour in question is one of those citiots who moved here last year and has 4 cats she calls her babies?

So, aside from the obvious, does anyone know or can they refer me to the law regarding making it go away permanently? It's a pet, that I understand. But I can get rid of coons that rip into the recyclables continuously, so why not a cat? Can I get rid of a "feral" cat legally? Anyone know?

This may help.......

https://www.torontodefencelawyers.co...njure-dog-cat/

Forget you know where the cats from
Catch it in a live trap call animal control to pick it up owners have to pay to retrieve cat couple times they will learn

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

I'm looking for opinion on the legalese of getting rid of a neighbours cat. The neighbour in question has been asked, pleaded to and warned several times to keep her cat away from my property here at the cabin. I asked the township about it and was told we don't have anything on the books about cats? Dogs, yes, but not cats? Neighbour in question is one of those citiots who moved here last year and has 4 cats she calls her babies?

So, aside from the obvious, does anyone know or can they refer me to the law regarding making it go away permanently? It's a pet, that I understand. But I can get rid of coons that rip into the recyclables continuously, so why not a cat? Can I get rid of a "feral" cat legally? Anyone know?

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Without an animal at large bylaw,you're really caught between a rock and a hard place. In a rural area,feral cats can be killed when found causing damage to crops and other livestock,but,it must be clearly shown how it's causing the damage. You can always live trap the cat,drop it off at the local animal shelter and let the owner deal with that hassle. If she needs to do that a few times,surely she's not so dense as to not get the message.

You could always stop shooting coyotes, the coyote population spike around us lowered the cat population for sure.

Do you have chickens? Poultry of any kind, or small animals?

Problem solved.

Sue her for dead chickens, or call about a cat killing/chasing the chickens.

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

This may help.......

https://www.torontodefencelawyers.co...njure-dog-cat/

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Thanks for that Rick!

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Without an animal at large bylaw,you're really caught between a rock and a hard place. You can always live trap the cat,drop it off at the local animal shelter and let the owner deal with that hassle. If she needs to do that a few times,surely she's not so dense as to not get the message.

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Live trap it is! But I won't be taking it to a local shelter. I think there are a few shelters between here and Toronto? No law against that I'm sure?

Bait your trap with Tuna. Our cat ( rescue, now indoor cat only ) does backflips for tuna.

Say bushmoose old buddy, I have been wondering if you may have seen my cat.

Why no I have not but you know there are a lot of cat eating coyotes around right?

I Put a trail cam looking at the garden. I got pics of skunk, coon and cat.
I said to my dad I’d eat cat ,coon then skunk. He said coon cat then skunk.

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Originally Posted by glen

I Put a trail cam looking at the garden. I got pics of skunk, coon and cat.
I said to my dad I’d eat cat ,coon then skunk. He said coon cat then skunk.

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I've got the little f@&%*er 3 times on camera and once visually. Each time I've told the owner to keep her cat at home and not let it wonder my property. Here's the problem. My old dog is pretty much crippled in his back end. He's having a hard time getting around and it's only a matter of maybe a few more months? Unfortunately, he doesnt realize that he's crippled? He will literally run till his legs give out and then he will drag himself still trying? Seen him do it and it breaks my heart. I've told the cat owner that if he hurts himself trying to get the cat, I will take over where he left off. End of story! She doesnt get it apparently, so I'll have to look after it myself. Live trap is set with sardines.......

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

Say bushmoose old buddy, I have been wondering if you may have seen my cat.

Why no I have not but you know there are a lot of cat eating coyotes around right?

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Interestingly enough, I have pics of a fox from the cam I have here at the cabin. They eat cats to I believe?

There is a fisher living under my neighbours shed so there are not any cats around.

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

Interestingly enough, I have pics of a fox from the cam I have here at the cabin. They eat cats to I believe?

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Originally Posted by Rick in Muskoka

There is a fisher living under my neighbours shed so there are not any cats around.

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So the question is do you take the cat to the Martin or the Martin to the cat? And no I am sorry to say that Foxes in North America are general not big enough to handle a cat. Foxes in the UK take sheep and would take a cat too,

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Originally Posted by Rick in Muskoka

There is a fisher living under my neighbours shed so there are not any cats around.

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The trapper who used to have a registered trapline in our area gave it up when he retired 4 years ago and no one picked it up. Now,we,too,have a family of Fishers (among other predators) that are absolute murder on stray cats. Now,if we could just get rid of the damn Coyotes that keep everyone awake some nights.............

Bushmoose, you can also by spray to keep animals away. my comment to my neighbor when her cat came to crap in our yard every day was , do you see my children crapping in your backyard, NO, then I should not have to put up with your cat crapping in our garden. Told her if it was in my backyard again it would be trapped and taken away. her comment to me was it is a cat, what do you expect.

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Originally Posted by BIG MAC

her comment to me was it is a cat, what do you expect.

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Pretty much the same attitude that I'm getting from my neighbour? She just doesn't get it?

.... ... ...... ah forget it I don’t like cats.....Good Luck

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just print a few these for the backyard..

If you maybe try hosing the cat while in your backyard-mildly ,but with a message....cats hate water,they may associate your backyard with bad experience?
Just do so carefully ,so you are not going to be nailed with animal cruelty.........never know.


Ps-I love cats,but i understand your frustration ,and the violation of your property rights.
Plus this cat story will make you and the neighbor bitter enemies ,at no fault of your own.
Sucks.........

You need the larger version of this. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...KSweVQPQsaR4yB

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

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just print a few these for the backyard..

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Love it! Great idea!

I also kept a slingshot and some small stones handy at the backdoor for raccoons, squirrels etc. etc. :) more to scare off than to injure. they do get the hint after awhile.

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Originally Posted by BIG MAC

I also kept a slingshot and some small stones handy at the backdoor for raccoons, squirrels etc. etc. :) more to scare off than to injure. they do get the hint after awhile.

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Hard candies are good for that. They shatter on impact and create a big impression on said target. Of course I always had lots of stone, gravel, or things to shot them at..

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

Hard candies are good for that. They shatter on impact and create a big impression on said target. Of course I always had lots of stone, gravel, or things to shot them at..

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Why waste candies and $$$$ on a damn cat , when cheap stones will do!

To all the posters on this thread......just sayin'. http://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.c...th-pellet-gun/

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Originally Posted by gbk

Plus this cat story will make you and the neighbor bitter enemies ,at no fault of your own.
Sucks.........

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Pretty much at that stage now. This woman just moved up here from Toronto last fall. Her hubby/boyfriend is ok, but really out of his comfy zone living the rural life. I've tried to be good next door neighbour. Lent him tools, lent him my wood splitter on occasion, etc, etc. I even taught him how to change propane tanks for his kitchen range? Real live, in the flesh, citiots? But this cat issue has destroyed any friendliness what-so-ever! Sad really?

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

To all the posters on this thread......just sayin'. http://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.c...th-pellet-gun/

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Goodbye firearms licence !!!

Good, he should not have one with that mentality.

[QUOTE=jaycee;1066301]Why waste candies and $$$$ on a damn cat , when cheap stones will do![/QUOTE9]

Cause I don't have the time or patience to make little dried balls of mud, and marbles leave glass shards in the grass.

With mints I can sit on the porch and eat the ammo... how many did you think I planned to shot at the cat.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Good, he should not have one with that mentality.

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He may not have had one to start with, there was no mention of if one was even need for the pellet rifle.

Mother-in-law's neighbor shoot a cat, they did take his 22 but returned it, and all he had to pay was a fine for the discharge by-law. No other charges where layed.

I thought of you when I read this, and hoped it wasn't you. I don't think you are 34. LOL

https://lfpress.com/pmn/news-pmn/can...c-a79f9c27caaf

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Originally Posted by jaycee

Why waste candies and $$$$ on a damn cat , when cheap stones will do![/QUOTE9]

Cause I don't have the time or patience to make little dried balls of mud, and marbles leave glass shards in the grass.

With mints I can sit on the porch and eat the ammo... how many did you think I planned to shot at the cat.:rolleyes:

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Plenty , if you miss as you did when shooting at pigeons, as someone else stated on here not long ago ! :)

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

Plenty , if you miss as you did when shooting at pigeons, as someone else stated on here not long ago ! :)

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The point would be to miss, if I hit the cat it would die. If that was the objective then I would use .32 Calibre steel balls.

And yes putting a new "Adjustable" rear stock on the shotgun messed things up.

I should have gotten it fitted again with the new stock before heading out. You also read what was wrong too I guess.

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Originally Posted by jaycee

The point would be to miss, if I hit the cat it would die. If that was the objective then I would use .32 Calibre steel balls.

And yes putting a new "Adjustable" rear stock on the shotgun messed things up.

I should have gotten it fitted again with the new stock before heading out. You also read what was wrong too I guess.

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Did you not see the smiley at the end ?

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

Did you not see the smiley at the end ?

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Yes..

Now I could also make whistling shot to shoot at the cat. Whistling clay balls that shatter.. would be interesting ammo for more then just cats.

I wait til the cat is up against something that he can't get as away quick then spray him with the pressure washer. I seen one climb the vinyl siding about 20 feet to get away from the water. Never seen him back

Damn cats just massacre the rabbits and birds around here. I dont know who owns these cats so I dont use the .22

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Originally Posted by SongDog

I dont know who owns these cats so I dont use the .22

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Proper etiquette calls for a .410, so i've been told?

Well Bushmoose what’s the update ? Traps work ?

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Originally Posted by 73hunter

Well Bushmoose what’s the update ? Traps work ?

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Not so far? My cameras havent caught any pics and I havent seen it around. Rumour has it here in the village, the owner is a bit upset with me and nervous about just what I'll do? That's ok with me, it might smarten her up and she'll tether her cat or pen it up? Trap has fresh can of cat food in it and it will for some time. If I catch it, she'll never see it again?

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

Not so far? My cameras havent caught any pics and I havent seen it around. Rumour has it here in the village, the owner is a bit upset with me and nervous about just what I'll do? That's ok with me, it might smarten her up and she'll tether her cat or pen it up? Trap has fresh can of cat food in it and it will for some time. If I catch it, she'll never see it again?

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To be fair, this is probably the best outcome. As a former cat owner, I encourage the hose routine first. If my neighbour hosed my cat to get the point across, I would not be mad. Cats are persistent and sometimes it takes more than their person to step in to discourage bad behaviour. If the cat is out loose, also in all fairness, it is coyote bait. If you caught it safely in a live trap and relocated it to a shelter, that might be the better option. Orrrr...if she cares about her cat that much, she could keep it inside. As she seems to be doing.

If you manage to catch it in the live trap, send it home with some distinct markings. Shave a strip off of it if it's tame enough or hit it with some orange marking paint. Give it a day and then try to have a conversation with the owner. Let her know next time, kitty goes to the "shelter".

I would like to see the FWCA amended to make it a crime to turn a cat out a night in an effort to prevent cat predation of wildlife. I believe OOD actually did a story about that a few years ago if I am not mistaken. I know most cities have bi laws about pets running at large but if the FWCA was amended, it would make it province wide.

The backup plan....:joker:

http://www.ooze.com/ooze13/cats.html

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

Not so far? My cameras havent caught any pics and I havent seen it around. Rumour has it here in the village, the owner is a bit upset with me and nervous about just what I'll do? That's ok with me, it might smarten her up and she'll tether her cat or pen it up? Trap has fresh can of cat food in it and it will for some time. If I catch it, she'll never see it again?

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No reason to be upset, nervous I can understand. sounds like point has been made and maybe she will now respect your property, doubt if you will see a Christmas Card. :) :).

Just move a trap to the front of the property so she can keep it in the back of her mind.

someone else has made a comment about the laws of animals running at large, from what I can remember Mississauga and Oakville had it for Dogs but not for Cats.

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

The backup plan....:joker:

http://www.ooze.com/ooze13/cats.html

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You could always mail her the recipe.

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Originally Posted by BIG MAC

No reason to be upset, nervous I can understand. sounds like point has been made and maybe she will now respect your property, doubt if you will see a Christmas Card. :) :).

Just move a trap to the front of the property so she can keep it in the back of her mind.

someone else has made a comment about the laws of animals running at large, from what I can remember Mississauga and Oakville had it for Dogs but not for Cats.

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The woman doesnt have much of a mind, she's a cat lover? I just came back to the cabin tonight, checked the cams, and sure enough, there's the cat again? It's illegal to hurt the cat, so the trap has been re-baited and we'll just wait n see? It's no use talking to her again, it's like talking to a rotten stump? Her husband, who I was friendly with before this crap started, has just slinked back in the corner, afraid to say or do anything?

Ah well, one morning it'll be in the trap and that's the last time I'll worry about it. It'll go to a nice new home.

You ask a ton of questions..........:)

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Originally Posted by LiveBates

You ask a ton of questions..........:)

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I'm not really sure what you're implying? I asked one question about the legalese of the cat situation and have rec'd several answers? The rest of the posts have been kindly suggestions to the situation. I'm finding it to be a bit entertaining, as I think others may also?

I'm enjoying it too, maybe it's just my computer, but there's a question mark at the end of every sentence and my mind reads every sentence as a question? No offence to be taken, just playin' around. If you'd like, you could borrow my buddy's sheppard for a weekend.......he "loves" cats:)

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Originally Posted by LiveBates

I'm enjoying it too, maybe it's just my computer, but there's a question mark at the end of every sentence and my mind reads every sentence as a question? No offence to be taken, just playin' around. If you'd like, you could borrow my buddy's sheppard for a weekend.......he "loves" cats:)

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No offense taken! I'll think about the sheppard option?:D

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

No offense taken! I'll think about the sheppard option?:D

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Fat fingers ??

There are 2 cats in my house, they don't go out side. It should be legal to shoot any cat outside. They kill everything, just for fun. My old lab loves cats too, so the strays are very careful around my place same as squirrels. He has retrieved 3 squirrels now, so they stay out, but the cats seem to be better at getting away. I think the live trap is a great idea, maybe drop it off in down town TO, where they came from. I also am enjoying this thread.

I’d live trap in , douse it in skunk essence and send it home lmao

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Originally Posted by trappermatt

I’d live trap in , douse it in skunk essence and send it home lmao

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Good one tm!