Air-Ordnance SMG; full Auto

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March 16th, 2019, 05:41 AM
MikePal

Air-Ordnance SMG; full Auto

Well that looks like plinking nirvana :)

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The all new Air-Ordnance SMG .22 pellet gun is the first of kind, fully automatic .22 caliber belt fed machine gun. This lightweight, high performance pellet gun which shoots up to 600 fps is the perfect item for gun enthusiasts, sportsmen and target shooting. This exciting new item, which is powered by CO2, nitrogen, or HPA (high pressure compressed air) will unleash up to 12 rounds per second, with an adjustable rate of fire.

Here it is the SMG-22 EH Air Gun Sub 500 FPS. The answer to all the requests we've had for the SMG-22 to be made in compliance with Canadian laws. This SMG shoots under 500 FPS with a 15.43 grain pellet, making it less powerful than 12 foot pounds of force. When ordering this air gun, call in and we will get the shipping specifics in order.
The air gun will ship with one 100 round link belt, an under mount drum, and a hard carrying case.

http://air-ordnance.com/smg-22-eh-ai...ian-compliant/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=-ksIFQSh2n0
March 16th, 2019, 12:34 PM
Snowwalker

Is full auto not illegal in canada?
March 16th, 2019, 12:36 PM
rick_iles

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

Is full auto not illegal in canada?

If It’s sub 500fps.....not a “firearm” for licensing purposes....
March 16th, 2019, 01:47 PM
Snowwalker

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

If It’s sub 500fps.....not a “firearm” for licensing purposes....

If someone calls the police and they charge you, the air gun will be considered a firearm. The court decided awhile ago that anything used in a crime counts as a firearm. Public disturbance is a charge.

Just saying there is the possibility of headaches.
March 16th, 2019, 02:04 PM
rick_iles

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

If someone calls the police and they charge you, the air gun will be considered a firearm. The court decided awhile ago that anything used in a crime counts as a firearm. Public disturbance is a charge.

Just saying there is the possibility of headaches.

For the purposes of various criminal offences relating to firearms, a sub 500 FPS (BB gun) is still classified as a firearm. They are not deemed to be firearms with respect to regulatory issues....licensing, etc.. The mere possession of the gun would not be an offence, careless use, point firearm, etc., would be....
March 16th, 2019, 03:33 PM
Snowwalker

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

For the purposes of various criminal offences relating to firearms, a sub 500 FPS (BB gun) is still classified as a firearm. They are not deemed to be firearms with respect to regulatory issues....licensing, etc.. The mere possession of the gun would not be an offence, careless use, point firearm, etc., would be....

Creating a disturbance, public endangerment....the list is pretty much endless.
March 16th, 2019, 03:58 PM
MikePal

Lord help us.....
March 16th, 2019, 03:59 PM
rick_iles

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

Creating a disturbance, public endangerment....the list is pretty much endless.

Cause a disturbance....no. No such offence as public endangerment...
March 16th, 2019, 04:02 PM
rick_iles

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Lord help us.....

Hahaha... don’t think even He can help some...!
March 16th, 2019, 06:12 PM
trky chsr

DPMS makes a BB full auto that customers say is a lot of fun. It's select fire but only has a 30 round mag. For $250 they are a lot of fun. TC
March 16th, 2019, 08:22 PM
Fox

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

Is full auto not illegal in canada?

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick_iles

If It’s sub 500fps.....not a “firearm” for licensing purposes....

http://air-ordnance.com/smg-22-eh-ai...ian-compliant/
March 16th, 2019, 09:21 PM
smitty55

That's a heavy pellet, I use 14.3 and alloys get much lighter. Mine is rated at 800 fps with that pellet or 950fps with alloy, to give you a reference of sort. So cut it in half and up to 75 fps difference.A lighter pellet could easily be over 500fps even if it could used a a single shot. I'd stay far away from that, that's asking for trouble big time.

Cheers
March 18th, 2019, 07:37 AM
Fox

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Originally Posted by smitty55

That's a heavy pellet, I use 14.3 and alloys get much lighter. Mine is rated at 800 fps with that pellet or 950fps with alloy, to give you a reference of sort. So cut it in half and up to 75 fps difference.A lighter pellet could easily be over 500fps even if it could used a a single shot. I'd stay far away from that, that's asking for trouble big time.

Cheers

The velocity is not the only thing that makes it a firearm, you need to be over 500fps and 4.5 ft lbs of muzzle energy, this takes into account all pellet alloys.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/f...me_air-eng.htm