"To respond to these concerns, the ministry is proposing regulatory changes to reduce the minimum distance for bait placement from a right of way for public vehicular traffic and marked recreational trails from 200 metres to 30 metres.
There is no change proposed to the existing 500 metre bait placement restriction from dwellings and public buildings."
https://ero.ontario.ca/notice/019-00...QyYyst4_4kJRfw
Fantastic!
The 200m rule was just plain unnecessary. Too bad it wasn't brought up earlier to be in place for the spring season. I have been having knee issues and it's going to be a real pain for me this year! :(
We start baiting on May 10th... :)
Good stuff-maybe this is the first real sign the MNR wants to work with the hunters;););)
Yes the MNR Want to work with hunters , but the hunters are not going on Bear hunt ....!
To help to save Moose Calf population from Bears ... Shame on them ...
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Originally Posted by gbk
Nice to see some common sense here. I hope it passes. Both my buddy and I are older and 200 m is just plain too far to carry bait, stands, etc.
I sent them my comments and that is exactly what I said. A 200m walk in the nasty bear woods is just too much for our aging hunters. It's about time the MNR woke up on this issue.
Are the bear harvest numbers published anywhere? Since the opening of the spring bear pilot harvest numbers MUST have increased. This year I noticed we no longer have additional bear tags available in wmu47.Quote:
Originally Posted by alfoldivandor
There is a bear bait pile just over 500 metres from my cottage, it is not mine. It is not the smell that drifts over once in a while, that bothers me , but the dam turkey vultures, crows and seagulls, that are constantly hanging around.
Fishcan, this thread is about bear hunting rules, not a liberal party convention! Quit bringing politics into the discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Not our Bear baits! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Ours are a good 15k from the highway and 200m in from an old logging road... :)
It will make a big difference in our neck of the woods (south-central Ontario) where we're hard pressed to find trails and concessions in public forests that are more than 200M apart or 500M from the nearest house or cottage on private farmland. This will be a good move. I'm still a big fan of "spot and stalk" in these areas,though.
Quit trying to be funny before you derail yet another thread, as I made no mention of politics in this discussion, you did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushmoose
It was satirical,for cryin' out loud. Lighten up whydoncha. She-e-e-e-sh!Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Yes it was, and if the shoe was on the other foot and I tried to interject ( dubiously humourous) political comments on a thread that previously had none, I would be chastised for it .
Yeah,but,that's just cuz yer a Liberal. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Voted for ford this time around! But I understand your bias.
Yes you did..as soon as you talked about Vultures, crows, perfect description of Liberals.:thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
And there we go again. LOL.
Why is it our MNR never gets anything RIGHT the first time.
non hunters making decisions for hunters ... non fishermen making decisions for fishermen .... non loggers making decisions for loggers . and the rest of the story reads the same. history will repeat itself indefinitely until those know it all decision makers start actually working with the user groups .... 30 meters eh ... i guess 90% of us will be legal NOW
I'll bet you dollars to donuts I still drive up some pipeline/power line Right of way, and find some guy hunting over a pile of stale timmies between the wheel ruts.:rolleyes:
That’s good news. I guess I can move back to my productive old spot.
I'm up at bear camp right now. Getting in upgrades and prepping for the fall hunt. got almost 250 miles on the ATV. Great weather, some lakes still iced over, no bugs which is a blessing. lot's of wash outs but we manage. Not a leaf on and vision in the woods is at all time maximum. Sure nice to see what you're doing and knowing the surroundings rather then guessing when the leaves are on.
We've changed out barrels to new designs and removed any old stuff and it's going home where it came from. I got a cousin that's a scrap collector. Access trails were updated, tree stands checked, camera boxes positioned perfectly. It's easy to get perfection when you're not dying from heat or swatting bugs. Bait runs are actually the easy part. In and out in record time.
Never seen any other spring bear hunters yet. Good for us ..... but it's early for experience bear hunters to be out yet. When the first spring hunt started a lot of newbies were out weeks ago and I always expect to encounter some guys. My spots are pretty remote so I guess no one in their right minds would find them ... except maybe Joe (species) HAHA! Actually he'd be 2 miles and 2 portages past me!
We are heading up tomorrow morning to start baiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by SK33T3R
I can't wait to get out of the rate race for a few days and spend some time in the bear woods.
This will be our first spring hunt so I would imagine it will be a great learning experience for us. Depending on how it goes we are leaning toward switching to the spring hunt only. I would like to do the fall hunt as well if I don't fill my tag but as usual Vacation days are limited... lol
its raining like a sob right now ...calling for 40mm overnight
good luck lots of washouts .. some are like ravines ... bring a chainsaw ... we needed to carve our way around 2 bad spots to bypass MNR rd closures
where there's a will..
Heading up tomorrow morning. Got the canoe ready and just going over everything to see if i need to pick anything up tomorrow. Good luck out there! and yeah i could probably find your baits - LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by SK33T3R
X2. Though my old established spots may no longer be established anymore . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by Deer Hunter
Yes that’s the problem, we’re are they now. For me it’s still worth checking.Quote:
Originally Posted by toddy
Well? It's been a week!Quote:
Originally Posted by Species8472
That was to start baiting. Took your sage advice and have been starting things up a little later the last 2 years. None the less it was a successful outing and managed to get 3 canoe in baits set up last Saturday and moved 1200+ lbs of bait by canoe. Was pretty sore the next day after 13 hours of paddling and humping bait in and out of the canoe and through the bush. Heading in Friday night and if the baits are hit will be hunting Saturday, Sunday and Monday and camped on site about 2 to 3 km from the baits. I am taking my BIL and nephew along for the ride as they have never been off the pavement so to speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by SK33T3R
You did that backwards. You should have had them doing the heavy work, well you supervised.Quote:
Originally Posted by Species8472
Had a hard enough time teaching them a decent "J" stroke last year. They get pretty frustrated when they can't keep up tandem paddling an empty canoe while I solo the 18 footer with me plus 800 lbs of gear/bait. They are actually moving faster than me in that scenario - just not in a straight line and end up paddling twice as far as I do to get to the same place. Reason I carry everything is they have a semi regular habit of capsizing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
Half the fun (if not all of it) of working with rookie paddlers is some of the antics they pull. It's more fun than watching cartoons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Species8472
Man I wish we were related! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Species8472
I don't do that for all my relatives! Some of my inlaws are SOBs. These guys are green but eager and good people. I have met some really great people from this forum and suspect you would fall into that category. Are you going to Boo's this summer? Perhaps we might cross paths and swap tall tales over a few wobbly pops.Quote:
Originally Posted by bellerivercrossbowhunter
Hey ... since boats are considered vehicles .... I hope you're 200 meters from the shoreline to be legal. All depends on how the CO interprets the wording. Ya never know? Some yuppie could be paddling close to shore, with a poodle on a leash, and gets attacked by a crazy bear that swims out and attacks that canoe.
Possible? could happen? maybe?
The only reason the MNR never got this right was because they never consulted with any user group other then the tree huggers and anti's.
They do have an EBR and workshops but if you can't read and comprehend or are deaf. Nuff said!
Hey the results don't lie! How often is there corrections to poor decisions. Yes it's nice to see the corrections after the fact.
Sure glad these people didn't become surgeons!
Actually Skeeter boats are considered vessels, not vehicles. Not to be nit picking but I know a guy who got off on an impaired boating charge because the cop wrote vehicle on the charge instead of vessel.
You are totally right about the ministry though. You really have to wonder where they get some of their ideas from.
Cheers
Can't make it to BOO fest this year! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Species8472
That’s not good Jeff but there’s always next yearQuote:
Originally Posted by bellerivercrossbowhunter
Yes sir!Quote:
Originally Posted by mr meat
Don't forget folks the June 17, 2019 deadline is coming fast. If you haven't added a comment to the registry please get it done ASAP.Quote:
Originally Posted by LowbanksArcher
This is a very positive thing - in my opinion.
Cheers,