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Hi all what’s the legality of hunting of a atv (engine not running keys in pocket), reason I’m asking is that at the end of August I’m having my left knee replaced and if it’s not healed enough wondering if I can take atv in and back it into bush with a camo tarp in front of it. Tree stand will not be an option and I could put ground blind up but would still have to cover atv after I get off it and walk to blind.
oh wow hopefully everything goes alright!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick_ca
as for your question are you asking if you can drive your atv in and sit and hunt off your atv with engine off?
ps your a real solider for still wanting to get out there after a knee replacement
yes hunt off atv (engine off Keys in pocket) as seat has back rest and a little comfort is everything lol
You cannot have a loaded firearm in or on any motor vehicle, whether the vehicle is running or not. This means that you cannot use your ATV, snowmobile, or truck as a watch seat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick_ca
ok thanks just wasnt sure but it is what i suspected guess I will put blind up and cover atv
talk to the mnr, there is exceptions
If you can get a doctor's letter and submit it to the MNR in order to get a special permission to hunt while sitting on an ATV.
I know that they do this for people with permanent disabilities, but I'm not sure if they will do it for a temporary disability from a surgery.
I would start by calling the ministry. They will most likely refer you to a form or explain to you what the steps are for your doctor to have you authorized.
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Best advice of all the posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Stewart
I have had both knees replaced, the right one this past Jan., hoping to go this fall.
It can take 6 to 8 months for all the swelling to go down and things to get back to normal.
Good luck with your surgery and , you must do all the physio excer. there is a lot of pain involved post surgery.
Talk to the surgeon to see what exercises you can do prior to the surgery to assist with recovery. I had a torn meniscus surgery and the exercises I did prior to the surgery shortened my recovery. As others have said, the physio after the surgery is critical to long term recovery. Good luck
Take a folding camo chair w you and sit beside the atv.
Depends on how good the surgeon is, and especially how many knees they do a year!
I was moose hunting exactly 9 weeks to the day I had knee replacement, and had no problem at all walking 2-4 miles per day!
Jaycee must have had a surgeon who only did occasional knee replacements, because everyone who I talk to who had post-op problems had this type of surgeon.
i had mine done at Toronto Western, and the surgeon and his team ONLY did knees and hips. That year he figured they would do about 400 knees alone.
I tried this when I had my knees scoped nine and ten years ago. OMNRF criteria says that the condition must be permanent before they'll issue a permit. Maybe,with any luck,those criteria may have been relaxed since then. There's certainly nothing to lose by asking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Stewart
The folding chair beside the ATV is the best idea. I did that when I had my knees done. It doesn't take much to build a first class brush blind with your ATV as a base with a simple tarp,a couple of poles and a little imagination. I still use that technique to this day when the weather is really crappy and we'll be out in it all day.Quote:
Originally Posted by genec
I have had both knees and 1 hip replacement surgery, follow you physio therapists instructions and you should have most of your mobility back after 3 months.
My surgeon . only does Knees and Hips, and Shoulders, knees he does a few each week, sometimes 2 per day, probably the best in Cambridge .Quote:
Originally Posted by genec
I was walking well without crutches 2 weeks after surgery, I did not say that I had any complications, the surgery and all went well but there was still swelling that lasted for a few months , which is normal.
My friend was bowling after 6 weeks . After 2 years I am limping and in pain all night. Surgery results seem to be different for everyone - I still get out with the dogs anyways.
Rob's posts is something to follow up on.
Post operation rehab is painful, but essential as said. Also talk to the surgeon about opioids - avoid if at all possible,
Of all the info in all the posts,this is the singular most important piece anyone will ever get for free. I've attended funerals for three co-workers in the last five years who retired at the same time I did. Every one of them died from accidental opiod OD's. Sometimes,I think Doctors who prescribe that crap out-of-hand should be charged with murder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharon
Sorry for the rant,I didn't mean to hijack the thread,but,this really hit a sore spot.
yup, my dad got into a bad accident and at work and has been prescribed them forever, he doesnt take them anymore tho they really do F you up even if your taking what the doctor prescribes you.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
i agree the doctors should be charged, it seems like some doctors just want you to get out of their office instead of actually figuring out whats wrong.
sorry to hear about your co workers by the way.
Have a crew member drop u off at your blind, make sure u have a comfy chair and have someone pick you up after wards...I had knee surgery early on in my hunt career and was on crutches. I had my dad help me get to my spot. I got settled in and did the hunt. ( actually gotta deer and then turkey later on). Hunting from a motorized vehicle unfortunately isn’t aloud even in your crappy state.
I got the MNR permit to hunt from a vehicle last year after having issues with a hip replacement and my surgery was at the beginning of January. 19 months and 8 surgeries later, I'm still waiting for the hip to go in without getting infected with e-coli. Surgery booked again for September, hopefully for the last time. I've been going without a hip joint at all the last 5 months to try and clear up the infection. I'll likely be getting the permit again this year the way its going. PM me if this is a way you may go if you need more info. Not ideal but I'll be damned if I'm not going deer hunting. I did take a 9pt buck and a doe last year.
I was able to schedule my knee replacement for a week after deer season. Should give me just enough time to process and make sausages before heading into hospital.
i have no personal experience with this Rick,so i can not say much .But one of my close co worker had a knee replacement, month ago.He is an avid hunter and owns hunting land on Bruce.He is doing excellent,yet he told me-he will not go this year hunting,his knee is just to precious for him, to take chances on ATV.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick_ca
I know it is his knee-lots of time-and his life.But something to consider for your case also.
I have been prescribed opioids, twice but in both cases , same surgeon, warned me about them and also the pharmacist had a good talk/lecture about them with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Most of the time , the patient themselves are to blame as they feel good taking the prescribed dosage and take more because they think they will feel that much better but it back fires on them in a deadly way.
Opiates/opiods are diabolical. They work well for a while,but,the body quickly adapts to the dosage and the pain returns requiring a heavier dose setting up the vicious cycle of heavier and heavier doses to accomplish the same amount of relief. Every one of my co-workers died in their sleep after taking their "night" pills. They didn't realize the damage to their system over time. They simply went to sleep as usual and never woke up. Government regulations are quite specific for Doctors who prescribe that stuff. In theory,they're supposed to be closely monitoring their patients,but,in the practical day to day,that rarely happens. It needs to change.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaycee
I had knee replacement Jan 30 also have osteoarthritis, severe degenerative joint decease . Tried a lot a stuff over 35 plus yrs for chronic pain now using small amount 1/2 eye dropper of CBD oil once a day . So far So good . Constant pain gone but still able to function legally & bodily . Gotta watch I don’t over due cause of lack of pain . Luck in OCT all .
Same here Rossi cbd oil and the cbd cream has helped a lot what has really helped is LLLTQuote:
Originally Posted by rossh
Low level light therapy
What’s low level light therapy ?
Found it on the Webb
Now find one for horses and dogs. Way cheaper than the human one works the same
yes i know a couple guys who had serious motorcycle injuries, they got prescribed CBD oil and it works great. for anyone thats not familiar with CBD it doesn't get you high at all its all for pain. (THC gets you high not CBD)Quote:
Originally Posted by js4fn
That CBD oil is useful for a lot of chronic illnesses.
PS
Stats show that a large percentage of opioid addicts started with opioids after surgery.
Fascinating show this week on the CBC about addictions. Well worth your time to watch.
https://gem.cbc.ca/media/the-passion...5a-01095e840ea
As some know, we take in street kids to give them a new start ; two recovering addicts right now and doing well.
There is hope.
phoned MNR they are sending forms out to be filled out and if all else fails they say legal to hunt from fold up chair next to atv as long as when im on atv gun is unloaded for transport which it would be any way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Stewart
The best way to find the correct answer is to go right to the source, you are all set now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick_ca
Excellent! Good luck. Please let us know here how it goes!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick_ca
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update had the knee replaced on the 30th bugger does it hurt LOL but getting easier every day, i received the paperwork from ministry but after reading it feel a bit of a fake as its more setup for limb loss so just decided to drive in and sit in a chair next to atv. so doing my exercises and physio and will report when I get out there good luck to all.
NICE! good luck out there and hope you feel better!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick_ca
Good to hear it went well. I'm under the knife tomorrow for hip surgery. 9th times the charm!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick_ca
All the best I had my doctor write a RX for a cold rush ice/water treatment machine way better than ice packs but a little pricey but at least save taxes with it being a RXQuote:
Originally Posted by cantgetright
Speedy recovery and best of luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick_ca