What calibre/ammo combo do you use for black bear.
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My go to is 300 Win Mag and Remington Hypersonic Ultra CoreLokt 180 grain
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What calibre/ammo combo do you use for black bear.
Please note: This topic is not for debate it is only for information.
My go to is 300 Win Mag and Remington Hypersonic Ultra CoreLokt 180 grain
9.3x62 with a 285 spire point or a 300 grain hollow point from a 450 marlin. Honestly the heavier and slower rounds perform best. I have guided hunters to around 30 bears and would rather see a 30-30 then any magnum. And nothing under .30 cal. Sure smaller calibers can kill bears but my bear last fall taken with the 9.3 was the quickest kill I have witnessed.
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When I get the chance.......................270 with winchester super X 150 gr
300 win mag 200 gr nosler partition
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Originally Posted by huntnmachine
45 70, 325 grain leverloution. Never had any animal go more than 10 yards (moose, bear, deer)
.308. Fed Trophy Copper
I flip a coin, this year 308 turned up.
Last 6 have been with the 35 Whelen using either 225 grain Accubonds or 250 grain partitions. Recovery varied from bang flop to 12 yards.
Either a .270Win (150gr PSP) or .30-06Sprg (165gr PSP) .....whichever I happen to have with me at the time. I have no problem popping them with a 12ga slug if that's all I've got.
12g slug, rifled barrel
Not me, but a 243 is in our group every year
Im going to use 200gr Winchester Silvertips from my 308WIN this year because, why not?
I've used everything from 12 gauge slugs & buckshot, 25:06, 30:06 and a Ruger 96/44 mag.
All have worked fine.
Some just shine better in certain situations.
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243 100y sight in
A few years ago we were stalked all the way to our cabin door and then charged.
I've seen countless bears over the past 50 plus years and have never worried. Since then I've been keeping my 30/30 carbine handy. My son just picked up an 870 pump with a 13" barrel so we're gonna use that from now on as the camp gun. Likely put a slug in it with a couple follow up OO's.
I've only shot nuisance bears, using a .30-30 or a .280 Remington.
If I were going to actually hunt black bear I would likely use my .30-30 Ackley with Barnes 150's.
303 british.....pretty slow heavy roud.....it wont go far
I put buckshot first then slug. Just in case of a charge and you can’t really sight down barrelQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Kavanagh
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If they are so close that you cannot sight down the barrel it will not matter if it is buckshot or a slug, your buckshot will not have opened up much more than the the diameter of a slug at that point.Quote:
Originally Posted by boddah
X2. Plug out and empty out.Quote:
Originally Posted by boddah
No not very far...ONLY two or three Miles. It will carry enough energy to do serious injury or death for a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bear13
It is normal for hunters up north to drop moose at 500 to 800 yards with the 303 British using 180 or 200 grain rounds.
I am pretty sure he meant the bear will not go farQuote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
Maybe the bullet will stay in the bear.
In the shattered shoulder behind the exploded heart would be a great spot for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by glen
i sported a 6.5x55. was a good all around choice when bushwacking northern ontario.
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Originally Posted by Bear13
You do know that a 180gr .303 zeroed at 200 yds will have a -60" (5 FEET ) hold over for it to hit a target at 500 yd and will have less than 1,000 ft/lbs of energy (ethical minimum to kill a deer).Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
So you might not be stretching it to say hunters are killing deer with it at 800 yds HaHa...
Millions of Europeans agree !!Quote:
Originally Posted by punkrockerpj
Those kind of shots are what the 7mm, 300 magnums are better suited for....Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Only wealthy southern hunters had those. I was 21 years old before I found out there was someone beside Dominion Arms that made rifle ammo. That was the year I finally ran out of the ammo I got for my Birthdays and in my Xmas stocking since I was 9 years old.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
I miss my No 4 rifle.
It is still a dangerous round for a long distance beyond your target. Just because it's not a 3000+ FPS round does not mean it's not going travel aways.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
My No.4 Rifle had an adjustable sight and I used an Optical range finder.
You don't seem to have a grasp of gravity; if zeroed at 200 yds and take a shot at a target 200 yds away and miss, that 180 gr bullet will only continue for another 200-300 yds before it hits the ground...considering -60" drop is about what you have when to are standing and taking a shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
200 to 300 yards is still a distance..as in two to three football fields.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
I have a very good understanding of Gravity.
OK...I guess distance is relative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
If I were to shoot my .303 from my parking area at the house down the driveway at a deer 200 yds away that 180gr bullet wouldn't even make it to my mailbox (800 yds away)..HaHa.
I believe most open sights for military application had adjustable sights for volley fire purposes,not so much for aimed shooting beyond certain distance. Somewhere after 300 yards the open sight covers the target any which way .......Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
I was talking about the flip up sight.Quote:
Originally Posted by gbk
The range finder was a camera lens. You adjusted the knob on the side till both sides of the image where in focused, then read the distance.
Accuracy was good enough...+/- 20 Yards at 1000 Yards...:tongue:
303 savage or 303 British?Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Yes, as you say it's only going 2 to 3 hundred yards past your target, but you want to be in range?
I just bought myself a ruger American in 450 bushmaster. So going to give it a try this weekend
Saw a great option for a Bear Gun/Ammo...
The M1 Garand service rifle chambered for .458 Winchester Magnum
Love the quote " This quick firing custom elephant gun can save you from claw and tooth in a hurry. "Quote:
The classic military M1 Garand service rifle is typically chambered in the military .30/06 cartridge. What if it was rechambered into an elephant gun?
When McCann Industries converted this M1 Garand to the mighty .458 Winchester Belted Magnum, they did it right.
The heavy recoil is slowed and somewhat tamed by an excellent muzzle brake and a cylinder of mercury in the butt stock. This means you can down that mighty beast with this super caliber and not break your shoulder in the process.
This quick firing custom elephant gun can save you from claw and tooth in a hurry.
303.....180 grains.....from short distances its a cannon
I have a 1.5" thick (135lb) steel plate at the 100 yds panel. The 174 gr 303 (FMJ) doesn't dimple it much.....but the 165 gr (Vital Shok) 308 leaves a crater. I was surprised, but pics proves out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bear13
Top two .303 (steel jacket fused)... bottom three .308
https://i.imgur.com/OZlk9Zsm.jpg
Looks like the 303 FMJ punched holes thru, or maybe it's just the lighting.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
your right does look like that, but Like it says, it's just the jacket metal fused to the plateQuote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
All relative, we were shooting at 200 yards with no issues, that would be long range in most Ontario deer hunting circles :D. Farmers fields, not quite that long range, ha ha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bear13
They are here in this part of Ontario, ha ha. and longer!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
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Originally Posted by Fox
Long range is relative to your calibre as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaycee
.22Lr 50 yards is a good poke.
100 yards is long range.
.223/5.56 100 to 200 yards is a good
poke.
300 yards is long Range.
.308. 300 yards is a good poke.
500 is a long poke.
500+ your doing some math.
My go to is my .303 with 180gr winchester power points.
Good go to ..battle proven !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahoma41
.308 Hornady 150gn American Whitetail
270 Sako hammerhead 156 grain
12 g Remington AccuTip
12ga with rifled barrel
Remington accutip sabot slugs
.338 Win Mag, 210 GR TTSX
.348 Winchester with 250 gr Woodleigh weldcore. Not for long range though.