https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thund...ails-1.5762302
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There's a far more detailed report on this subject than what is listed by the CBC who only print a snippet of the whole picture.
https://www.ontario.ca/page/moose-management-review
Heck I just went for the EASY TO UNDERSTAND LINK. LOL....Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
https://www.ontario.ca/page/points-b...cess#section-1
LOL Pretty soon,we'll need law degrees to figure this stuff out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Don't get those friggin lawyers involved LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Seems very fair and easy to understand for me.
Just checked my MNRF account, couldn't remember last time I had a tag, looks like it was 2011.
Not sure where that will fit in with point system as far as how long before I get a tag?
If i understand correctly that would put You next year to 10 points.If bought in every year since 2011.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deer Hunter
So-any area You want to go and have 10 points requirement(or less-of course)will be a fair game.
Unless-there will be overabundance of high point hunters,wanting to hunt there too.
What is not Fair is the hunters who carried the draw system by applying every year. Now the hunters who have applied say 5 years since there last tag received 10 years ago will have 5 points with out a penalty. They don't fall into a pool 2 like the current system when you miss a year applying, There has been a lot of money spent by hunters to keep moose hunting open and now are being penalized. Hell this is one way to bring back all the hunters who have quit for one reason or another.Quote:
Originally Posted by gbk
Would your points reset to zero if you claimed a calf tag?
Agreed-i also dislike(nothing i can do thought)the fact that if someone was applying and getting tags to far away areas(anything beyond Thunder Bay-from Eastern/Southern part of Ontario)is now on a backseat to the hunters they were applying and not getting tags to convenient -close=hard to get tags to areas. Not that there is anything wrong with wanting to hunt close to home-and this is not their fault-just does not sound fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by BPR 30-06
After all-the hunters going far contributed to the economy year after year.
NO it will not.
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Originally Posted by gprice
Which webpage did you use to see your history? I tried to get mine,but,can't find it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deer Hunter
I dont think this is right. It says if you claim a tag that was your first choice your points reset to 0. So only if there are surplus calf tags and you get one as your 2nd choice will you get to keep your points.Quote:
Originally Posted by JUDGE
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Thanks,Pete.Quote:
Originally Posted by PEte
Thanks, no matter what, I will hunt the WMU my camp is on. Might have to wait longer for a tag. I can only travel far for one hunt, and that will always be a Deer hunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by gbk
Yes sorry. Pete got it, than go in your Moose section.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Any speculation on how many points a tag will cost? In say 47 where I hunt? My uncle said they're going back to 1993 for you to collect points. So, I wonder if a bull tag will cost like 29 points LOL.
Apparently,if I read it correctly,that will depend on the overall adult population of the particular WMU. Some WMU's may not have any tags issued while others will have many of all types.Quote:
Originally Posted by cramadog2
I hope there are just no calf or cow tags, that would be a proper benefit to the population.Quote:
Originally Posted by dmichel
My last tag was part of a group in 2011 as well. I have 6 points as I missed a few years when I had given up on the moose hunt but started again a couple years ago when my brother bought a property. Still will never draw one likely but at least its only $15 now. We just came back from a bird hunt, talking to a few of his neighbors that had drawn moose tags this year, 1 was 5 years between tags and another was 18.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deer Hunter
Yes I almost gave up a few times also but kept applying anyways. Luckily my two nephews were coming down and this was the only reason why.Quote:
Originally Posted by cantgetright
It’s hard to believe someone never got drawn since 1993? Anxious to see the draw stats.
At my age, I’m sure I will hopefully only get one more tag. It will be nice to have a tag where my camp is.
My guess would be-same as Guaranteed group size+/- 15 % for 2021.Quote:
Originally Posted by cramadog2
For the No guaranteed Group size WMU-s they will judge based on "available"moose versus 2020 applicants.
The MNRF will learn in 2021what is going on with the new system and what is the repsonse-outcome, and then will make the adjustments for 2022 which will be the "real one",for some times.
But this thing with points will be a"moving target" ,a whole lot more ,then the Group allocation was.
Just my theory.
It would be nice if they only took the points that the animal costs from you balance rather then resetting to 0.
I figure i have 17 pts or so and would rather spread it out on calf tags then blowing them all on a bull but thats not an option.
I think it will depend on who applies and the number of points each applicant has. Tags should to those who have the most points in a descending order until all tags have been allocated. In the case where there are more hunters with the same amount of points and a few tags remains, the draw will be the tie-breaker.Quote:
Originally Posted by cramadog2
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Originally Posted by cramadog2
I'll play....20+ for sure.
the real question for most of us is, how many years will it take to chew through the 20+‘s, then how many more to chew through those that currently hold 15+?
lets look at wmu 48 for a better example. 33 adult tags, 1063 pool 1 apps (adult tags combined). 27 total points possible. because years don't need to be consecutive, and because of the previous group system, in an area like 48 there will be lots with 20+ points and a great many more with 15+ (I’ll speculate 20% of moose hunters in 48 hold 15+.
As a pure guess just looking at the #'s, Itll probably take 15-25 years to chew through the hunters who currently have more than 12 points
because every unsuccessful applicant receives a point, the pecking order of those in waiting won’t change much over the next decade at least. That is to say, If youre 3/4 of the way down the list of a thousand now, you will still be 3/4 of the way down the list of 670 people a decade from now.
Well looking at my draw history, I have 21 points currently. Hopefully I'll receive a tag in the near future. All the years I applied as part of a group, I never received a tag, while at least 2 members got picked twice.
You’ll have lots of friends come may lol.....Quote:
Originally Posted by cramadog2
We filled a bull and a cow tag this year. I suspect our group is pretty much done. Glad we had a good last year !!
$200.00 for a bull tag! I hope they air lift that sucker to the butcher from the kill site for me!
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$250.29 as of this year. Fishing licences will increase to $100 by 2027..maybe