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December 26th, 2016, 06:25 PM
#11
Did you give the gun barrel a good cleaning before shooting it? New guns should be cleaned prior to shooting, some come with a lot of rust inhibitor on/in them
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December 26th, 2016 06:25 PM
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December 26th, 2016, 09:14 PM
#12
So I have been cleaning my gun when I get home, and cleaning it well. It's a good rifle to learn to clean, as this rifle doesn't seem to be all that complicated (so far). I've broken it down enough so that I can clean out the barrel, trigger and it's housing, and the housing for the trigger housing which the barrel is connected to.
I bought a scope for it recently - just a cheap $20 Tasco affair - and next I will have to realign the iron sights (and shoot with that) before I mess with the scope.
Eventually the cheap scope will make it's way for an air rifle down the road, and I will invest in a good scope sooner than later. Right now it's all just learning curve here.
Maybe I am being too cautious in not wanting to buy the more expensive stuff outright? Time will tell, I suppose. The thing is, I tend to learn the hard way with the cheap $h]t which I tend to apply to the better stuff. Always has worked for me before, but even I have a thought in the back of my mind that maybe this might not be the best way to go...
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December 26th, 2016, 09:32 PM
#13
Sagin, you and I both took the, "new" gun course.
How do you feel about looking down the barrel?
Honestly, I think it is nuts and scary as hell.
How long have they been teaching newbies to look down the barrel?
Last edited by Noseyarentcha; December 26th, 2016 at 09:34 PM.
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December 27th, 2016, 08:40 AM
#14
Has too much time on their hands
[QUOTE=Noseyarentcha;1008393]Sagin, you and I both took the, "new" gun course.
How do you feel about looking down the barrel?
Honestly, I think it is nuts and scary as hell.
How long have they been teaching newbies to look down the barrel?[/QUOTE]
I always look down the barrel before using any of my guns.
Unless you think a gun has the potencial to always be loaded why is there an issue with that?
If you can't tell if your gun is loaded or not, I think it's nuts and scary as hell!
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December 28th, 2016, 10:56 PM
#15

Originally Posted by
Noseyarentcha
Sagin, you and I both took the, "new" gun course.
How do you feel about looking down the barrel?
Honestly, I think it is nuts and scary as hell.
How long have they been teaching newbies to look down the barrel?
They teach you first to check to see if the chamber has a round in it, AFTER you remove the magazine (if any). So unless a bullet magically appears in the chamber when you go to look down the barrel...
The point being: if you pick up a gun, especially someone else's gun, and you want to PROVE it safe (again, especially someone else's gun), you remove magazine, empty chamber, then look down the barrel. In that order. You might think you will never touch someone else's gun, but it may happen if you are group hunting and someone asks you to do them a favour and get their gun... or something to that effect.
If the first thing you do is look down the barrel... well... ya know: shenanigans could ensue.
Also, the 60 second waiting period when you misfire a dud? Here's why (its barrel looking related):
Wait 60 seconds, then eject the round (and keep trying to eject it). Then look down barrel (in case bullet or shots are stuck in barrel which you must then clean).
If I couldn't eject the round? I'll assume I am SOL and wait a good while before I break down the gun and attempt to remove the round manually.
Don't ruin that hairline of yours!
Last edited by SaginMerusan; December 28th, 2016 at 11:28 PM.
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December 28th, 2016, 11:11 PM
#16

Originally Posted by
seabast
If you can't tell if your gun is loaded or not, I think it's nuts and scary as hell!
This is why I like guns with that "last shot open" feature. It will have the action (chamber) stay open after last bullet, so if the action is closed then assume it's loaded.
I know it's a pain in the a.R.$.s. but if you just aren't sure if a gun is loaded then going through the process to unload the gun - to ensure its not loaded - is the way to go.
Naturally, I assume I am preaching to the choir here. I'm writing this out for anyone who may be interested in guns, is not a gun owner, and succeeds the 1 in a million chance of actually coming across this thread in the future. LOL.
Last edited by SaginMerusan; December 28th, 2016 at 11:26 PM.
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December 28th, 2016, 11:12 PM
#17

Originally Posted by
Noseyarentcha
How long have they been teaching newbies to look down the barrel?
Forgot to address this one. I have no idea how long.
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December 28th, 2016, 11:33 PM
#18
One more thing: I've sighted my scope today. And iron sight as well. Great stuff. Had no one walk me through it, and had some issues but nothing unsurmountable. Got my directions screwed up for a bit (elevation versus windage) but I figured it out (aka looked at the damned screws: one says "UP" with a direction, and the other says "R" with a direction... ha ha ha ha such an idiot I am).
I got it very close to zero at around 25 yards - I think it's 25. I forgot what the range people said it was.
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December 29th, 2016, 11:29 AM
#19

Originally Posted by
SaginMerusan
Forgot to address this one. I have no idea how long.
They've been teaching that since 1960 in Ontario when the safety course was started....
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December 29th, 2016, 11:57 AM
#20

Originally Posted by
Noseyarentcha
Sagin, you and I both took the, "new" gun course.
How do you feel about looking down the barrel?
Honestly, I think it is nuts and scary as hell.
How long have they been teaching newbies to look down the barrel?
I took the hunter and firearms safety course in the mid-70's. They didn't teach us to look down the barrel then.
When I did the exam (early 2000's maybe???) I was surprised that I am to look down the barrel for obstructions. For autos and levers this means looking down the business end, which I don't particularly like doing - and only do if I have reason to suspect there is an obstruction (i.e. I dropped it barrel-first in the mud/snow etc). If I use a single/break action, I check the barrel when I pick it up.