Proposed changes to small game regs.

[Frank16]

Instead of reducing Jack limits they want to reduce snowshoe hare??? Doesn't make sense to me!

[duckslayer]

the county pheasant release programs in Essex, Perth and oxford

I have no idea about Essex but please enlighten me on the pheasant release programs in Oxford and Perth...............don't think they exist..... I could be wrong but they are long gone as far as I know.

Instead of reducing Jack limits they want to reduce snowshoe hare??? Doesn't make sense to me!

Yes this makes absolutely zero sense to me ether, I personally believe the jack limit needs to be looked at, when is the last time you heard of someone getting a full limit of jacks??? Lot's of guys chasing them and consider it a good day with 1-2 in the bag for the whole group of guys.

[fishhawk]

Duckslayer Essex would be the biggest one for a pheasant county release as thay have a club with there own hatchery. Next would be the Perth county. Your right about Oxford they stopped the release in 2014. Perth gets its funding for the pheasants by the sales of the township license. Norfolk also a has a good release. I also agree about the European hare, limit should definitely be lowered.

[tom gobble]

Are small game numbers down, is that the cause for these proposals. Why don't they concentrate on more predator control and habitat enhancements and leave things the way they are. It really doesn't affect me much because like others said most of time I'm only getting one or to snowshoe hares at the best of times. But and there is a but there was times that i did harvest four hares or four grouse. Its getting harder and harder to find time to get out and hunt why limit people for a couple times out a season. I think the regs are fine the way they are and people should set there own limits. If your having a good season and harvesting limits every time out, slow down a bit and go home LOL I do this when I'm fishing why can't people do this hunting. Enjoy your small game and harvest a couple of meals but be conservative when you should be. My two cents

[duckslayer]

Duckslayer Essex would be the biggest one for a pheasant county release as thay have a club with there own hatchery. Next would be the Perth county. Your right about Oxford they stopped the release in 2014. Perth gets its funding for the pheasants by the sales of the township license. Norfolk also a has a good release. I also agree about the European hare, limit should definitely be lowered.

Do you have a link for info on the pheasant release programs?? Where do they release pheasants in Perth??? Don't think this is happening anymore.

[swampsinger]

The idea that you can manage snowshoe hare thru the daily bag limit is absolutely ludicrous. I supose, I should inform the mnrf that the snowshoe hare population naturally cycles up and down on an aproximate 10 year time frame. I'm sure the mnrf bioligists know better, however I'm sure its not them but the bureaucrats, you know, deputy ministers and the like, that are driving this. The mnrf bureaucracy is full of non hunters with all the urban bias that goes along with that. How could the bioligist even offer informed direction when the mnrf has put zero into studying snowshoe hare in the past 50 years. This is anecdotal imformation ; two years ago I was informed by a kemptville office CO, that they guaged the area hare population by how much road kill they see. I mean how "sciencetific" can you get.
If they are genuinely trying to manage snowshoe hare they should hang thier heads for this attempt. This is all about the mnrf agenda of restricting and reducing opportunities.

[Longears]

Protect the swamps, fencelines and habitat that wildlife need to flourish thats what will make a difference!!

[swampsinger]

For the past fifty years the hare season in units 1 thru 59 has run from sept 1 thru to june 15, no limit.

Where is the snowshoe hare population of least concern, units 1 thru 59. {no problem}

The snowshoe hare population has been on local 10 year cycles in those units for at least 10,000 years.

The mnrf {restrict and forbid} must have elevated themselves to the status of gods, if they believe they can control the hare population in those units in any way.

Heaven forbid if the mnrf should try and promote this underutilized resource.

[Bluebulldog]

I can't help but wonder if the reduced limits are correlated to the recent restrictions on Coyote and Wolf?

Seems to me that if they're reducing the amount of predator control taking place, it will have an effect on small game numbers.

[swampsinger]

I wonder if this more about managing hunters than wildlife.