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March 5th, 2017, 10:47 AM
#11
The dog trainer I used who just passed away trained police dogs for Toronto,Halton,Peel you name it in the GTA and beyond. Had trained over 45 years and his company is still contracted to do bomb sweeps for Rogers Center and most other downtown venues.Choke collar was the very first think he used after evaluation of the dog being trained. Its to bad Council does not get input from good trainers before they make such stupid decisions. It looks like nobody else in Toronto can have a dog that will protect their lives except Police officers.
P.S. After a little research we find the following which probably lead to the bye law,bad owner resulting in bad law.
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...d-in-neck.html
Last edited by Gilroy; March 5th, 2017 at 11:08 AM.
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March 5th, 2017 10:47 AM
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March 5th, 2017, 12:03 PM
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[QUOTE=Gilroy;1018666]The dog trainer I used who just passed away trained police dogs for Toronto,Halton,Peel you name it in the GTA and beyond. Had trained over 45 years and his company is still contracted to do bomb sweeps for Rogers Center and most other downtown venues.Choke collar was the very first think he used after evaluation of the dog being trained. Its to bad Council does not get input from good trainers before they make such stupid decisions. It looks like nobody else in Toronto can have a dog that will protect their lives except Police officers.QUOTE]
Dave's passing was a big loss to the K9 community, he will be missed by many and his legacy lives on. Dave not only worked in the GTA area but also in Michigan.
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March 5th, 2017, 02:23 PM
#13
This kind of over extension of authority driven by left-leaning fascists who are trying to force social engineering on the masses is what got Trump elected. Stay tuned to what happens in this country.
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March 5th, 2017, 02:56 PM
#14

Originally Posted by
3 black dogs
Another fine example of the inmates are running the ayssylum.
Yup!!!
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March 5th, 2017, 03:00 PM
#15
No idea why a bylaw is needed re : how long a dog can be chained outside.
One could always call animal control if abuse was happening.
I called once after viewing a situation for several days. The dog was in a large muddy field chained ( 3 feet) to its' dog house. No food or water bowls present . Sun beaming down day after day.
The owners were building a new house so I guess they decided to chain the dog out there. Not acceptable.
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March 5th, 2017, 05:36 PM
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[QUOTE=Marker;1018670]

Originally Posted by
Gilroy
The dog trainer I used who just passed away trained police dogs for Toronto,Halton,Peel you name it in the GTA and beyond. Had trained over 45 years and his company is still contracted to do bomb sweeps for Rogers Center and most other downtown venues.Choke collar was the very first think he used after evaluation of the dog being trained. Its to bad Council does not get input from good trainers before they make such stupid decisions. It looks like nobody else in Toronto can have a dog that will protect their lives except Police officers.QUOTE]
Dave's passing was a big loss to the K9 community, he will be missed by many and his legacy lives on. Dave not only worked in the GTA area but also in Michigan.
Great guy with a big heart, sorry I did not meet him earlier in life and spend more time in his company.He had got up to my camp once with his son,they had just acquired their PAL,s and new guns.They went down to my dock and went out bass fishing, looked behind themselves at the dock and had been followed down by a Big Bull Moose even got a good photo of the Moose,I think about a week after the season had closed.Good time,to short.
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March 6th, 2017, 08:27 AM
#17

Originally Posted by
yellow dog
Toronto is it's own country.lol
Too bad this was not a reality..........sole reason we have the libtards running things..............while the rest of the province shakes their heads!!
I love fishing but REALLY it is just a way to pass time until hunting season!!!!
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March 12th, 2017, 07:35 PM
#18

Originally Posted by
jim
Most people in Toronto, don't know how to use a choke collar properly. They walk around strangling their dog!
or upside down... really , I have seen it..
Dick
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March 16th, 2017, 11:50 AM
#19
Here's the most update response from the CKC regarding this:
CKC Denounces Recent Amendment to Toronto Animal Control Bylaw
In January, CKC provided members with an update regarding proposed amendments to Toronto animal control bylaw Chapter 349, Animals and included the results of a City survey in which Toronto CKC members and other local groups were invited to participate during the consultation process.
Most recently, CKC learned that an additional amendment was added to the bylaw and included a ban on choke collars, choke chains and prong collars—integral and effective tools used responsibly by dog exhibitors, trainers and evaluators.
Despite the fact that the survey results showed that 55% of respondents disagreed with a complete ban on these collars, and despite a City staff report recommending a ban on such collars for tethering purposes only, the move to an outright ban was later made by Council.
As you can imagine, CKC is extremely disappointed by this recent decision that clearly does not represent the voice of our members and the many Toronto dog owners.
While we applaud the efforts of the City to strengthen its animal control bylaw, particularly where dangerous dogs are concerned, we think the decision to ban these collars is misguided and falls short of its intent to target irresponsible dog owners.
CKC would like to set the record straight and will be contacting members of Council in an effort to overturn the ban, in support of caring and responsible dog owners and their dogs.
I guess for those of us who are really concerned we request the voting details of this item and target those councilors who voted for it. I today's world it is not difficult to target individuals who are so off base.
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March 16th, 2017, 12:00 PM
#20
"While we applaud the efforts of the City to strengthen its animal control bylaw, particularly where dangerous dogs are concerned, we think the decision to ban these collars is misguided and falls short of its intent to target irresponsible dog owners."
I don,t like the term dangerous dogs its much more dangerous owners.This lady who allowed her poor dog to wear a chain that actually grew into its neck was clearly not playing with a full deck.I suggest the Council approves a bye law where owners must take a training course before they are allowed to own a dog period.Even if I believed some dogs tend to be "more dangerous" they have exasperated the situation where a good training item has now been banned and dogs that are a little dominant have less and less chance of being saved.