Interesting Story

[GW11]

Very interesting story GW11 and cannot imagine how I would deal with that ego driven CO. I have had only one encounter with a CO while finishing up a grouse hunt at Winchester Bog. Not much was said and he just wanted to see my license and inspect my firearm after I proved it was clear of ammunition and the chamber open. Hearing all these stories makes one wonder about what the criteria must be to become a CO. What I find unusual especially in GW11 experience is that only one of the CO's was the ring leader and the rest of the CO's were basically followers.

The lead CO was senior to the guy who was interviewing me and it seemed like the operation was his show. The other guys were from another district but were there that day as backup. I suppose it makes sense that two guys would want some backup when approaching a group of eight of us in the middle of nowhere.

I'm glad that I posted this story now after all this time because it has generated some interesting discussion. It's very interesting to hear some of the perspective from our retired LEO's.

Terry - I agree with you about the fact that the majority of CO's are decent, reasonable people. But as we all know there are jerks in any profession and Natural Resources Law Enforcement has their fair share too. A few of the guys that I went to school with... man... I really hope they never ended up on the job. On the other hand, there were quite a few that would have been perfect for it.

Personally, I'd rather not run into them in the field, but I think we can all agree that it's nice when we read about a case where some truly bad apples have been pinched.

[yellow dog]

I will say that I've never had a negative encounter with a CO. Can't recall a negative encounter with a cop off the top of my head. They have a job to do. Sometimes they make mistakes, as do we all.

It's pretty rare that you have someone making a habit of abusing his/her authority.

No I wouldn't say rare . I have four family members that are police officers and have heard some eye brow raising stories of officers who have huge egos.

[rick_iles]

Only if it was visible and with in the legally defined distance. But that now raises the question "If there was an old pop bottle with a yellowish label laying on the end of a field could it be called bait?"

It doesn't raise a question with me !!

[welsh]

No I wouldn't say rare . I have four family members that are police officers and have heard some eye brow raising stories of officers who have huge egos.

Everyone has heard stories.

[Species8472]

No I wouldn't say rare . I have four family members that are police officers and have heard some eye brow raising stories of officers who have huge egos.

I would agree. Not the norm but certainly they are out there and I have run across a few over the last 30 years. For the most though the good ones have far outnumbered the bad ones.

My oldest son was on campus at Queens and got recorded on video surveillance in the vicinity of a computer theft about 4 hours before the theft happened. Somehow he got identified and brought in for questioning. He was 18 years old at the time. The cop in question told my son that he knew was guilty or least knew who committed the crime and that if he did not give up the person who committed the crime he would be charged with obstructing justice all the while the cop was swearing and yelling at him and calling him a POS etc. At that point my son told the cop that he was leaving unless they were arresting and charging him. My son left and we never heard another thing about it - mistaken identity and they must have figured out that my son was actually telling the truth.

[Snowwalker]

It doesn't raise a question with me !!

So you would say yes or no that it could be said to be used to attract wildlife?

[GW11]

I would agree. Not the norm but certainly they are out there and I have run across a few over the last 30 years. For the most though the good ones have far outnumbered the bad ones.

My oldest son was on campus at Queens and got recorded on video surveillance in the vicinity of a computer theft about 4 hours before the theft happened. Somehow he got identified and brought in for questioning. He was 18 years old at the time. The cop in question told my son that he knew was guilty or least knew who committed the crime and that if he did not give up the person who committed the crime he would be charged with obstructing justice all the while the cop was swearing and yelling at him and calling him a POS etc. At that point my son told the cop that he was leaving unless they were arresting and charging him. My son left and we never heard another thing about it - mistaken identity and they must have figured out that my son was actually telling the truth.

That would be a hard one to sit and listen to as a father. Especially knowing your son didn't do it.

[yellow dog]

Everyone has heard stories.

Based on fact.

[rick_iles]

So you would say yes or no that it could be said to be used to attract wildlife?

From what you described....no!

[welsh]

Based on fact.

Based on fact. So?

I heard a great story today: Ottawa police officer made an arrest for counterfeit currency and possession of 200 grams of weed, and the charges were thrown out. Why? He smacked the guy in the head for no reason at all, while the guy was handcuffed, and then when the guy complained about being smacked, he punched him twice in the face. And had no reasonable grounds for the search that turned up the evidence. All the charges thrown out because the cop overstepped his bounds.

I know all kinds of stories, all of them true. But the fact that things happen doesn't make them common. How many times do Ottawa police interact with the public every day, without punching anyone in the face for no reason? Perspective.