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June 9th, 2017, 07:03 AM
#21

Originally Posted by
Gilroy
I think the response time was 8 minutes, in reality most every police officer in London is armed and they have been for a long time.Had there been ANY unarmed police officers they surely would have engaged these terrorists in any event.
A good short term solution in England would be to swear in retired military as a unpaid militia and arm them.I would say also retired police but most of them would not have had the firearms training except those who retired in more recent years.
We also have to remember how much damage would have been caused if these terrorists were armed with assault rifles.
I am actually scared at times by the safety training that officers/military receive, not that the PAL course actually teaches anything about true real life safety but I have been swept by more than a few retired LEOs and retired Military personal who claim the gun is unloaded.
I do not feel that we need to be armed at all times and in London what would the people on the bridge have done, once the vehicle was hitting people there was no way to react and take out the driver. The people stabbing others, what are the chances that some bystander shoots just the attacker and not a pedestrian.
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June 9th, 2017 07:03 AM
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June 9th, 2017, 09:02 AM
#22

Originally Posted by
Fox
but I have been swept by more than a few retired LEOs and retired Military personal who claim the gun is unloaded.
Funny, they used make soldiers do punishing laps for hours or pushups till you'd drop blubbering into pool of sweat for not unloading your rifle properly. You didn't dare waver off the trained procedures for fear of the consequences...figured that stuck with you for life
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June 9th, 2017, 09:04 AM
#23

Originally Posted by
MikePal
Funny, they used make soldiers do punishing laps for hours or pushups till you'd drop blubbering into pool of sweat for not unloading your rifle properly. You didn't dare waver off the trained procedures for fear of the consequences...figured that stuck with you for life

I just know what I have experienced, was told never to check a barrel unless I was fully disassembling but finger off the trigger was swept by a few others, not fun at all.
Still not as bad as grandpa but still not good.
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June 9th, 2017, 09:38 AM
#24
Safety is something that happens between your ears, not something you hold in your hands.
I believe Jeff Cooper said that.
I wouldn't want to live in a metropolitan city where pizza arrives faster than an armed cop.
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June 9th, 2017, 09:57 AM
#25

Originally Posted by
skypilot
I wouldn't want to live in a metropolitan city where pizza arrives faster than an armed cop.
Perfect!! Do you mind if I use that?
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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June 9th, 2017, 11:12 AM
#26

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
Perfect!! Do you mind if I use that?

Be my guest, seems I saw it on a sign once upon a time so it's not original.
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June 9th, 2017, 01:34 PM
#27
Golly lee you guys are so smart, that,s the solution we need to arm the pizza delivery guys.LOL
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June 9th, 2017, 01:50 PM
#28

Originally Posted by
Gilroy
Golly lee you guys are so smart, that,s the solution we need to arm the pizza delivery guys.LOL
No but maybe we should demand that the pizza delivery guy brings an armed cop with him(to improve police response time)
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June 9th, 2017, 03:51 PM
#29

Originally Posted by
skypilot
No but maybe we should demand that the pizza delivery guy brings an armed cop with him(to improve police response time)
If the pizza delivery guy also delivered for Timmies,that would be a slam dunk (pun intended) LOL
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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June 9th, 2017, 06:56 PM
#30
True Trimmer. I am 110% against any cop in uniform being without a firearm.
My son works at HQ in TO and I stress to him the stupidity of being unarmed and in uniform but the Brit influence is strong at HQ. Pugash I assume.