QEWII (WMU 56) Hunting

[trimmer21]

Queen Elizabeth II Wildlands is on the list of PP which allow hunting. Page 28 of the hunting regulations.

Yep,sure enough. I missed it.

[Dythbringer]

Yep,sure enough. I missed it.

Easy enough to miss. You have to zoom in on the website to clear up the lettering.

[SpriteMcBain]

I can't believe I actually have to explain this in a manner where it makes sense to finsfurfeathers:

Imagine you have a couple of buddies who have never really fished before, but they watch lots of fishing shows and they have general knowledge of the sport but would love to try it out. You tell them, hey we're going to go out on a canoe trip and go fishing. but you can't take any fishing gear. I'll paddle you around the lake, show you were fish may be, talk about why they would be there, but you're not actually going out to catch fish or cast a line in the water. How interested do you think those newbies would be in doing it? And what kind of impression would the sport of fishing leave on them? Probably not a great one and they would never try it again. However if you did take them out, bring the gear, have them hold the rod in the water, tell them how to make the lure dance and they don't catch fish or even see a fish they're still likely to continue fishing or take it up more seriously.

This is no different. If i say, HEY we're going to go rabbit hunting but since rabbits are out of season i'm not bringing a firearm. We're going to get up super early though, and look for rabbit signs and so on.

Or i could say, Hey we're going fox hunting, we'll be using this sweet henry AR 22, we're going to get up super early, go for a nice hike deep into the woods from our campsite. Set up shop where we think we might see some foxes and we'll be super quiet, we'll get to hear the forest 'breath' around us while we wait for our shot. Knowing full well the likelihood of seeing a fox, and having a clean shot to take is less than 1%...At least i can sell it to them in a way they'll want to continue learning to hunt and maybe take the sport up fully at some point.

I travel a ton to the US for work, i would not jeopardise getting any kind of a firearm charge and losing my job over shooting off a couple rounds in the woods when I can already do that on land i have access to. Thank you for your toll though finsfurfeathers, please take that attitude to Reddit where it's more welcome.

[Gilroy]

Once you call the MNR office in Minden I am sure they will be able to explain all the rules to you and even make some suggestions, then you will be good to go.

As a general comment when you are on a forum and ask a question you will get answers you might not like. With your contribution of 25 posts on here I would not personally call a long standing member a troll.

I think the consensus on here is that bringing a gun into a Provincial Park at that time of year is "not a good idea" .

[SpriteMcBain]

Correct. There are more polite ways to answer questions though. And he didn't really answer my question, just accused me of being a lawbreaker...classy. As a member with only 25 posts I would have have thought most folks would be polite and helpful to newbies.

[Bluebulldog]

Correct. There are more polite ways to answer questions though. And he didn't really answer my question, just accused me of being a lawbreaker...classy. As a member with only 25 posts I would have have thought most folks would be polite and helpful to newbies.

OK.

1. You compare fishing to hunting, wrong. Just plain wrong. Open seasons for fishing, and the ability to participate is a matter of stopping in a corner store to make sure you're good and legal.

2. You have a couple of "buddies" who you want to go camping with, and "introduce them to hunting". Yeah, ok. The only thing open is fox, and skunk, you already said you don't want to hunt the latter, so you're going to go out expressly for fox, are you? Yeah.....ok. You want to introduce someone to hunting, do it when something is open that you actually can have a bit of a time shooting at. Like grouse, or waterfowl.....both open a week after your trip. The premise that you are going into QE II PP, with the express intent of hunting fox doesn't pass the smell test. Are you doing any scouting? Have you been there to find small game which might keep the fox around? No.....what you're going to do is swat a ton of mosquitoes, and sit around, until boredom sets in, and that will be that.

You come on an open forum, asking experienced members to validate what you want to do, and then get your nose bent out of joint because you don't receive the answer you want, the way you want it.

Go camping in QE2 PP, no problem. Wanna go camping with a gun, and they don't allow it, unless you're hunting. There's tons of crown elsewhere, where you can do just that.

Don't like the answers you get from more experienced people? Welcome to the forums pal.

[finsfurfeathers]

I can't believe I actually have to explain this in a manner where it makes sense to finsfurfeathers:

Imagine you have a couple of buddies who have never really fished before, but they watch lots of fishing shows and they have general knowledge of the sport but would love to try it out. You tell them, hey we're going to go out on a canoe trip and go fishing. but you can't take any fishing gear. I'll paddle you around the lake, show you were fish may be, talk about why they would be there, but you're not actually going out to catch fish or cast a line in the water. How interested do you think those newbies would be in doing it? And what kind of impression would the sport of fishing leave on them? Probably not a great one and they would never try it again. However if you did take them out, bring the gear, have them hold the rod in the water, tell them how to make the lure dance and they don't catch fish or even see a fish they're still likely to continue fishing or take it up more seriously.

This is no different. If i say, HEY we're going to go rabbit hunting but since rabbits are out of season i'm not bringing a firearm. We're going to get up super early though, and look for rabbit signs and so on.

Or i could say, Hey we're going fox hunting, we'll be using this sweet henry AR 22, we're going to get up super early, go for a nice hike deep into the woods from our campsite. Set up shop where we think we might see some foxes and we'll be super quiet, we'll get to hear the forest 'breath' around us while we wait for our shot. Knowing full well the likelihood of seeing a fox, and having a clean shot to take is less than 1%...At least i can sell it to them in a way they'll want to continue learning to hunt and maybe take the sport up fully at some point.

I travel a ton to the US for work, i would not jeopardise getting any kind of a firearm charge and losing my job over shooting off a couple rounds in the woods when I can already do that on land i have access to. Thank you for your toll though finsfurfeathers, please take that attitude to Reddit where it's more welcome.

Not being a troll just advising to set a proper example.
In this sport we all face rules and regulations that may limit or curtail our activities. Most are left to be followed on our own conscience as the MNR can't be every where. So either you follow them or try some legalise to circumvent them. No sportsman here will support an obvious way to try and get around the regulations no matter how angelic one tries to make it. If you are going to be a mentor the first lesson to teach them that this sport has clear rules the governs every aspect and they can't pick and choose which ones to follow depending if its convenient or not.
There is no room for creative interpretation to achieve your own selfish outcomes
In your example about fishing you didn't mention if they purchased a license or if the season is opened. If they had not purchased a license or if the seasons are closed than no they can't even dangle a line.
I started "hunting" with dad when I was 10. Carried a stick for 4 years and made believe till I was 15 which at that time I could legally carry a gun . Did it diminish my experience because I didn't carry a gun NO!
Stop making excuses and make the proper choices
Can guarantee when deep in the bush and your newbies will start whining awe come on we just want to feel what it is like to shoot. What are you going to do? Disappoint them or not?

[SpriteMcBain]

They're grown men, they're not gonna whine about anything....

I'm sorry in my example i didn't explain every facet, i think it was implied they would be properly licensed and fishing for something in season. Hence why in the real life example we're talking about fox/skunk.

Geez, chill out man. I see why your post count is so high.

[Bluebulldog]

Geez, chill out man. I see why your post count is so high.

Yes...it's high because FFF and myself participate in open discussions about various hunting and fishing activities. We've also been on the forums for a number of years. ( we've likely also been licensed hunters for longer than you've been alive)....

So "chill out man".....and maybe actually listen to the messaging you're being given.

[finsfurfeathers]

Yes...it's high because FFF and myself participate in open discussions about various hunting and fishing activities. We've also been on the forums for a number of years. ( we've likely also been licensed hunters for longer than you've been alive)....

So "chill out man".....and maybe actually listen to the messaging you're being given.

Anit that the truth!

They're grown men, they're not gonna whine about anything....

I'm sorry in my example i didn't explain every facet, i think it was implied they would be properly licensed and fishing for something in season. Hence why in the real life example we're talking about fox/skunk.

Geez, chill out man. I see why your post count is so high.

Than why bring the gun? If they are grown men as you say than you need not baby them. Tell them as it is seasons are closed can't bring the gun.
You admit the is no real expectation less than 1% of seeing a fox so you are not fox hunting.
In all your descriptions there is no real intention to hunt fox. bringing 2 clips of ammo for an animal you state as having less than 1% chance of seeing further contradicts your intention.
MNR will have nothing of it if you give them the answer your trying to push here.