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August 26th, 2017, 11:53 AM
#61

Originally Posted by
welsh
Incidentally, one of the things that makes invasive species invasive -- i.e. that gives them the opportunity to INVADE, which is the root word of invasive -- is that they don't need to be "given the opportunity." They do it on their own.
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By the above definition, "we humans are then the most invasive species on this earth ", as we have spread ourselves all over this earth and have bred uncontrollably, and in a lot of cases without any forethought of the consequences for what we are doing or have done.
Food for thought. ???
Last edited by jaycee; August 26th, 2017 at 11:56 AM.
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August 26th, 2017 11:53 AM
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August 26th, 2017, 11:57 AM
#62
Probably fair!
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August 26th, 2017, 03:08 PM
#63
They can be pests and are, in certain farm/ranch areas.
Back home, they are along a major river bottom so they are less in cattle and farm country.
One year, from Oct 1st to the 15th of November we caught 65.
Recently in Ontario, hog prices were around .88 lb. Very little overhead involved and .88 cents a pound, pretty good return and loads of fun.
Hog prices will continue to rise, pork is on more and more these days, with more bacon wrapped food being introduced.
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August 26th, 2017, 05:28 PM
#64
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
fishhawk
If we ever get a huntable population here I will be keeping a good pair of hounds in my kennel. One of the best way of hunting them in my opinion.
It is the ONLY effective way to hunt them but land owners will have to let us in and we, hunters, will have to all get together. I can't wait!!!
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August 26th, 2017, 05:39 PM
#65
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
thunderbelly
I wonder if it is the Spanish blood in the Eurasian boar that increases the litter size and rate? This seems to be the only difference between a tolerable population in Europe, and the havoc experienced in the US. Pure strain Eurasian boar would do fine in our climate, they would also give me a reason to buy a Bullarab dog!! Some of the catch dogs look just incredible, big brass gonads jingling away as they lock onto a pig.
The population in Europe is because they have been hunting them for as long time and know how to get it done. Baiting and seating in as stand with an AR doesn't work for too long.
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August 26th, 2017, 07:03 PM
#66
You really won't need a gun with good dogs. Just a bush hook or machete to cut a pole and some rope to tie their feet.
Add a few tracker dogs and a couple of catch dogs and you're set.
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August 26th, 2017, 08:19 PM
#67

Originally Posted by
thunderbelly
a Bullarab dog!! Some of the catch dogs look just incredible, big brass gonads jingling away as they lock onto a pig.
Well I certainly never heard of a Bull Arab dog before. That made for some interesting reading for sure. Of course unscrupulous breeders are now diluting the original stock it seems. For those like me that had never heard of this dog before here's a quick history. http://www.klement.com.au/bullarab/history.html
Now I'm going to look for videos of these dogs in action hehe.
Cheers
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August 26th, 2017, 08:27 PM
#68

Originally Posted by
seabast
It is the ONLY effective way to hunt them but land owners will have to let us in and we, hunters, will have to all get together. I can't wait!!!
I'm sure landowners will be equally enthused by your eager anticipation of their financial losses.
"Boy, I hope terrible pests will be inflicted on farmers so I can indulge my hobby of hunting."
Not the finest sentiment I can imagine.
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August 26th, 2017, 09:28 PM
#69
We have already had wild boars or feral boars escape from a local game farm a few years back. One pair had a den on a farm I hunt and they flattened acres of corn and tore up a few lawns as well. I wouldn't want to see them introduced to cause even more damage.
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-...astern-ontario
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August 27th, 2017, 09:14 AM
#70
They definitely won't be friends to fruit growers, farmers and cattlemen.
They are fun to hunt, live trap and catch with dogs, but until you see their destruction on agriculture, it is hard to grasp.
Along wild river bottoms that are State Forests and far away from agriculture, they are quite the sport. Otherwise they are extremely problematic.
They physically root up crops, introduce salmonella via consumption and/ or environmental exposure, poison water holes and root the ground causing the potential for severe erosion.
They are extremely hard to fence out of an area and it takes daily fence patrol to inspect/repair "pig proof" fencing.
It would likely take a few decades for them to be seriously problematic on a large scale, but it would just be a matter of time.