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February 27th, 2018, 04:33 PM
#21

Originally Posted by
anonymoose
Do you honestly believe this garbage? If so, you live in a very sad and distorted version of reality.
The left (which is another way of saying most Canadians) believe that someone shouldn't have to die over stealing stuff. Some of us who live in actual reality know people who have gone to jail and then gone on to live normal productive lives. This is how we form these crazy left wing opinions like "you shouldn't be allowed to shoot someone for breaking into your car".

Originally Posted by
anonymoose
It is fun and easy to believe that the people who have different opinions from you are stupid or ignorant. It is fun to feel superior and get a chuckle over the PM's gaffes thinking that the left is lapping it up instead of shaking our heads. Bullying and belittling are all good fun for the egotist. I get it.
The far right is a shrinking minority in Canada, and the right moves a little further left with each election. You get to watch your politicians shrink further and further away from issues of social conservatism. The left is winning the long game.

Originally Posted by
Gilroy
I agree the left is winning the long game and its no wonder when you consider what the right has offered the voting public.Locally it was Tim Hudak with his 100,00 job cuts, something Doug Ford is going to do but does not have the parts to say so.Then we have Patrick Down for the count after 3 rounds,down South
we have the lying blow hard Tramp and his gang.How the hell are these people going to run the Province (not Tramp) when they cannot run their own party.
Castle Doctrine if your so worried about getting something stolen get a nice avatar like mine to keep the bad guys busy while you load up your shotgun after taking it out of safe storage.Also make sure that 911 call is made at some safe time.
OMG,Gilroy,I think you just found a new Liberal hunny-bunny. Now,doesn't that just warm the cockles of your heart?
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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February 27th, 2018 04:33 PM
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February 27th, 2018, 04:45 PM
#22

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
OMG,Gilroy,I think you just found a new Liberal hunny-bunny. Now,doesn't that just warm the cockles of your heart?

Well you know what they say? 2 Wrongs, don't make a Right?
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February 27th, 2018, 05:01 PM
#23

Originally Posted by
Bushmoose
Well you know what they say? 2 Wrongs, don't make a Right?
touché ...LOL...
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February 27th, 2018, 05:10 PM
#24
Two Chinese people named Mr. and Mrs. Wong got married and had a child.
They asked the nurse if they could see their child. The nurse brought their baby, and it was a white baby.
The two of them said "But that's a white baby, and we are Chinese
and
two Wongs don't make a white."
If you keep doing what you've always done. You'll keep getting what you've always got!
Since light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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February 27th, 2018, 05:21 PM
#25

Originally Posted by
Bushmoose
Well you know what they say? 2 Wrongs, don't make a Right?
Funny thing moose. Had two people I went to high school with... Libs all the way. Volunteered for every liberial MP, MPP, Council member and mayor that came along. Got married, and along came the first kid, job, taxes. They are not liberals anymore, but all their EX-friends on welfare are.
Sound familiar?
Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.
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February 27th, 2018, 05:23 PM
#26
Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.
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February 28th, 2018, 02:01 PM
#27
I have to shake my head when the usual suspects bring up the castle doctrine.
If you had any grounding in legal history, you'd know that castle doctrine, from Blackstone, is what we already have in Canada; the laws in Texas etc. reflect *expanded* castle doctrine.
Promoters of expanded castle doctrine laws like to refer to their ideas as "castle doctrine" to push the idea that they are restoring good old-fashioned common sense and brushing away a few decades of Liberal rot. In fact, it's the opposite: expanded justifications are new & a reversal of long-standing trends.
No, you should not have the right to shoot someone over the theft of property that's insured anyway. Nor will most Canadians support such a right. And yes, I've had stuff stolen. Doesn't give me the right to kill anyone.
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February 28th, 2018, 02:13 PM
#28
As I and most people, have said before, the ONLY reason to shoot someone, is to save a life...period. Any other reason, you should be incarcerated.
Last edited by fishermccann; February 28th, 2018 at 02:16 PM.
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March 1st, 2018, 06:51 PM
#29
Canada
According to the Criminal Code of Canada Sections 34 and 35,[45] (which were updated in 2012 with the passage of bill C-26) force, up to and including lethal force may be used in defence of one's life or "peaceably" possessed property or the defence of another's life or "peaceably" possessed property, and is not considered an offence so long as the person believes that force is being used against them in the case of self-defence, that someone is about to or has broken into or damaged property in the case of defence of property, that they are acting in defence of themselves, someone else or "peaceably" possessed property, and that the act is reasonable in the circumstances. The criminal code also lays out the factors in either case that will be used to determine what constitutes "reasonable given the circumstances". The changes made by the government were to clarify the laws involving self-defence and defence of property, and to help legal professionals to apply the law as believed to reflect the values Canadians hold to be acceptable.
Assertion of right to house or real property
42 (1) Every one is justified in peaceably entering a dwelling-house or real property by day to take possession of it if he, or a person under whose authority he acts, is lawfully entitled to possession of it.
Marginal note:Assault in case of lawful entry
(2) Where a person
(a) not having peaceable possession of a dwelling-house or real property under a claim of right, or
(b) not acting under the authority of a person who has peaceable possession of a dwelling-house or real property under a claim of right,
assaults a person who is lawfully entitled to possession of it and who is entering it peaceably by day to take possession of it, for the purpose of preventing him from entering, the assault shall be deemed to be without justification or provocation.
Marginal note:Trespasser provoking assault
(3) Where a person
(a) having peaceable possession of a dwelling-house or real property under a claim of right, or
(b) acting under the authority of a person who has peaceable possession of a dwelling-house or real property under a claim of right,
assaults any person who is lawfully entitled to possession of it and who is entering it peaceably by day to take possession of it, for the purpose of preventing him from entering, the assault shall be deemed to be provoked by the person who is entering.
And then the common sense of a jury ;
When self-defence cases proceed to trial, juries are often quite sympathetic to homeowners, or even shopowners, who may have used excessive force against an intruder. In 1991, Francois Guerin opened fire on two robbers as they ran away from his wife’s Montreal convenience store, killing one and wounding the other. Police charged Mr. Guerin with criminal negligence causing death and criminal negligence causing injury, but was acquitted by a jury.
Seems to me ..with the protection of 'Castle Doctrine' you are justified until they lay charges....with out it, you are charged and then have to prove you're innocent, which is what happened in the two incidents sited. The jury got it right.
Keep shaking your head....
Last edited by MikePal; March 1st, 2018 at 07:50 PM.
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March 1st, 2018, 06:57 PM
#30

Originally Posted by
fishermccann
As I and most people, have said before, the ONLY reason to shoot someone, is to save a life...period. Any other reason, you should be incarcerated.
Naive thinking....and not prudent, as you will likely be dead before you realize your life is even in danger...that's why the law allows you to act when they come into your home.