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March 13th, 2018, 06:52 AM
#51
Has too much time on their hands
“The PCOP still have the peoples pledge platform that they are running on. There is no time (maybe), to change it before June 7th. Even if they could it would involve a Policy Convention.”
Read what I said, they can change it..if the will is there, but without holding a policy (constitutional requirement), it can’t be done arbitrarily.
Identity politics will ensure you remain loyal to the “cause”, just long enough to hand over all the power you have on June 7th. On June 8th you are not needed anymore. They will have the power..I get it.
As long you continue to believe you have power after June 8th, you will be OK. Let me ask you, in the PCOP platform…are they changing property rights, curtailing the power of Conservation Authorities, are they protecting land owners from increasing powers to seize your lands. Jack MacLaren left the party to side with Ontario Land Owners Association (OLA). I guess if the most Democratic Party in (PCOP), actually believed that, they would have an official platform Plank to address this issue.
You see, I drank the coolaid of PCOP for 30 years, I have no ill will to them. But, the anger I see expressed here is exactly how you have been programed to think and react. I get, I was of the same view.
But to me, unless you/we have first rights over government, then you are part of the problem of ensuring you will never be control of your life. You will be bound the powers of the government..how is that freedom, how is that having control over the efforts of your work.
True freedom and democracy begins with individual rights, land rights, the power to control your property and the governments influence over your rights.
Our platform address all those concerns and rights. One in which you the people retain the power and control by giving authority over government over property, One that puts you’re the taxpayer in control of your tax dollars. A platform that has you control the funds and make choices what services you want. A platform the supports business innovation and attracts growth back to Ontario.
Doug Ford said yesterday, that he will offer tax credits to help businesses relocate back to Ontario, the reason he needs to say that is to ensure businesses need to approach government for these credits. But the real problem is over regulation, high hydro, high taxation and high labour costs which are making the province a place to not set up business.
We have 3 planks in our platform designed to bring businesses back and make Ontario a place to set up business.
Hydro
The Ontario Libertarian Party will cut your Hydro bill in half!
Here's how:
• repeal the Green Energy Act
• eliminate time of use billing
• end discriminatory delivery charges crushing rural residents
• remove all subsidized power from the grid
• terminate for convenience all subsidized generation contracts
• transfer off the Hydro books all termination costs including past gas plant termination costs. Hydro customers will not be made to pay for the Government boondoggles.
• terminate all Liberal Government appointees from all boards and electricity related entities
That is how we will cut our bills in half!
Job and the Economy
The Ontario Libertarian Party will make Ontario a job magnet!
Here's how:
• we will put in place a sensible electricity policy, our theme for Hydro Rates is "Cut your hydro bill in half".
• we will put in place a sensible Government and Taxation plan, including balance the provincial budget
• we will repeal the job-killing Cap & Trade Carbon Tax
• we will end any Government program and service related to mitigating climate change
• we will end Corporate taxation, of course Corporations will still pay HST
• we will end all grants and loans to Corporations and other entities
• we will end mandatory insurance with WSIB
• we will end mandatory registration with the College of Trades
That is how we will make Ontario a job magnet!
Property Rights
The Ontario Libertarian Party will say loud and clear - "Back Off Government"!
Here's how:
• Government agents will have no special privilege under the Ontario Trespass Act
• Conservation Authorities and any other Department or Agency will have no jurisdiction over privately owned property. What this means for instance is the operator of a bar or restaurant can allow smoking on the premises without Government interference so long as the property owner is in agreement.
• The Ontario Building Code Act will be amended so that it does not apply on a mandatory basis. Property owners can use the Code as guidance if they like. There will be no restrictions on off-grid solar installations.
• Municipal Bylaw inspectors will have no right of entry or inspection uninvited without a judge's order.
• Reduce the Ontario Land Transfer Tax to be a flat fee of $275 instead of the current fee that is based on the property value.
That is how we will say loud and clear "Back Off Government"!

Originally Posted by
B Wilson
Didn't take long for the vice chairman / candidate for the Libertarian Party to attempt to discredit the new leader for the PC party... Who is it going to be more embarrassing to lose to Rob Ford or Kathleen Wynne?
Mark Snow, Leader Of The, Ontario Libertarian Party
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March 13th, 2018 06:52 AM
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March 13th, 2018, 08:20 AM
#52
This is F*****g hilarious!!!! This is why the uninformed shouldn't try to make policy. If you want to call yourself a "legitimate" party, you should at least know the very basics on taxation and how the energy sector works.

Originally Posted by
line052
We have 3 planks in our platform designed to bring businesses back and make Ontario a place to set up business.
Hydro
The Ontario Libertarian Party will cut your Hydro bill in half!
Here's how:
• repeal the Green Energy Act
• eliminate time of use billing
• end discriminatory delivery charges crushing rural residents
• remove all subsidized power from the grid
• terminate for convenience all subsidized generation contracts
• transfer off the Hydro books all termination costs including past gas plant termination costs. Hydro customers will not be made to pay for the Government boondoggles.
• terminate all Liberal Government appointees from all boards and electricity related entities
That is how we will cut our bills in half!
Job and the Economy
The Ontario Libertarian Party will make Ontario a job magnet!
Here's how:
• we will put in place a sensible electricity policy, our theme for Hydro Rates is "Cut your hydro bill in half".
• we will put in place a sensible Government and Taxation plan, including balance the provincial budget
• we will repeal the job-killing Cap & Trade Carbon Tax
• we will end any Government program and service related to mitigating climate change
• we will end Corporate taxation, of course Corporations will still pay HST
• we will end all grants and loans to Corporations and other entities
• we will end mandatory insurance with WSIB
• we will end mandatory registration with the College of Trades
That is how we will make Ontario a job magnet!
Property Rights
The Ontario Libertarian Party will say loud and clear - "Back Off Government"!
Here's how:
• Government agents will have no special privilege under the Ontario Trespass Act
• Conservation Authorities and any other Department or Agency will have no jurisdiction over privately owned property. What this means for instance is the operator of a bar or restaurant can allow smoking on the premises without Government interference so long as the property owner is in agreement.
• The Ontario Building Code Act will be amended so that it does not apply on a mandatory basis. Property owners can use the Code as guidance if they like. There will be no restrictions on off-grid solar installations.
• Municipal Bylaw inspectors will have no right of entry or inspection uninvited without a judge's order.
• Reduce the Ontario Land Transfer Tax to be a flat fee of $275 instead of the current fee that is based on the property value.
That is how we will say loud and clear "Back Off Government"!
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March 13th, 2018, 08:41 AM
#53
With a platform like that your party will never, ever have a seat in parliament. Thankfully....... I can see your only votes coming from, off the grid, living in buried busses, doomsday preppers.
Last edited by fishermccann; March 13th, 2018 at 08:45 AM.
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March 13th, 2018, 09:01 AM
#54

Originally Posted by
fishermccann
With a platform like that your party will never, ever have a seat in parliament. Thankfully....... I can see your only votes coming from, off the grid, living in buried busses, doomsday preppers.

Or Moms basement! I guess they can promise the world when there’s not a snowball’s chance in heii of getting elected.
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March 13th, 2018, 09:29 AM
#55

Originally Posted by
line052
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True freedom and democracy begins with individual rights, land rights, the power to control your property and the governments influence over your rights.
And that statement right there, is why the U.S. is having many of the problems it faces now? Everyone is so concerned with their "indivdual" rights, that they think nothing of trampling over their neighbours rights?
I imagine your household must be mayhem? Your kids just do what they want, when they want, and damned be the person who gets in their way! Is that your philosophy? Is that how your household is run? Each person for themselves with no responsibility toward their fellow person?
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March 13th, 2018, 09:36 AM
#56
Yup all fun, till your unregulated neighbor wants to get into the cesspool business.
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March 13th, 2018, 11:20 AM
#57
Has too much time on their hands
Speaking of Koolaid ! I am in shock and do not know where to begin with your statement line0052.
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March 13th, 2018, 12:18 PM
#58
Has too much time on their hands
Have a look at the platform, and you might a better idea. If you don't believe in individual rights and people having power over government. Keep voting Conservative, or Liberal, it matters not to me.
We want to shrink government and put people in control, it is not that difficult to understand, how about instead of ensuring the government controls all all your life, take control over yours.
Mark Snow, Leader Of The, Ontario Libertarian Party
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March 13th, 2018, 02:41 PM
#59
I would really like to know how all the people in southern ontario would feel about seeing a nuclear power plant in the distance and the waste from that plant in the ground by their home. They don't like solar or wind??? well, guess what. Look at this nuclear power plant and have future generations deal with the waste from said plant
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March 13th, 2018, 04:08 PM
#60

Originally Posted by
Bonkers
I would really like to know how all the people in southern ontario would feel about seeing a nuclear power plant in the distance and the waste from that plant in the ground by their home. They don't like solar or wind??? well, guess what. Look at this nuclear power plant and have future generations deal with the waste from said plant
Darlington and Pickering residents don't have a problem with it,neither do the residents of The Bruce. Spent fuel bundles are well contained. Having waste buried by someone's home is foolish leftist rhetoric.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....