Originally Posted by welsh
What would be the point, there are so many restricted handguns being carried around Toronto, it almost renders the idea of handguns being restricted as ridicules.
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If Doug Ford was Prime Minister, he would fire these judges for not doing their jobs an replace them with new ones that would enforce the laws.
A PM who attempted to fire the Supreme Court for striking down his government's laws would be violating fundamental principles of our democracy.
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They have been violated in so many ways up to now, by the Lieberals, whats one more violation !
The present judges are already in violation by not enforcing the laws as enacted by the gov.
Last edited by jaycee; July 28th, 2018 at 10:26 AM.
We do have a Prime Minister who regularly shows disregard for laws and firmly believes he is above the law..
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
Round and round she goes. The media does what it does. Sensationalized everything, rhetoric and hyperbole, mass hysteria sells. Statistics and trends to the contrary be damned.
Proof?
Look at this one? It’s common knowledge the gun was bought illegally. I’ve read 20-50 articles, many about bans. One today in the NP (right wing) explaining to the gullible and unknowlegeable that not all guns are equal. And that higher caliber rounds result in more fatalities. Seriously? Wtf? Is that how just ignorant the masses are?
Not one article, not one ( though plenty mention Saunders/Goodale deflections, about “domestic” sources)...
No one says booo jack, about the commonality and gangs, and why arent they going after them...
Antis want bans, more and more regulations. More of the public becomes swayed. Politicians, either due to ideology or first and foremost the desire for votes, play to the howls and feed want they think the populace wants to hear....
Police chiefs, many new school cops, who aren’t exactly gun knowledgeable, or proficient themselves, want the spot light on anything but their own short comings fighting crime.
Gun owners, increasingly become entrenched, ying and yang, Newton’s law. Cause/effect.
Fast forward roughly 20 years (we tend to follow the US in trends by a generation. We will be where the US is. Polarized, the NRA and lobbies, the left, antis and lobbies. Until a couple million kids, decide adults don’t know how to adult anymore...and...
Like it or not. We do have a problem. Solutions that haven’t been tried other than getting the law enforcement agencies (including the justice system, lawyers to stop plea bargaining with bangers) changes to the revolving door justice system etc?
Last edited by LoR; July 28th, 2018 at 07:03 PM.
Adding the 100 police Toronto is proposing in theory should help but let's not kid ourselves. Police presence has some effect as a deterrent. But until the judiciary respect and enforce the letter of the law and convict and impose real sentences the gangs will just laugh and continue doing what they do. Not many of these cases will ever be heard by the SCC so it's a Federal/Provincial issue. As long as we have Trudough in office it will likely get worse for law abiding gun owners and better for criminals. This is the new normal.
I’m suspicious of people who don't like dogs, but I trust a dog who doesn't like a person.
Fully agree with your sentiments,enforcement will work as it did in New York,but everybody has to be on board from the Mayor to the PM to the Courts.Good luck with this happening in present day Canada.There are simply to many citizens uneducated about how much the law abiding citizen has to go through to get a firearms.
One good proposal is for Doctors to flag mentally ill persons who might apply for a license,although in practice not sure how it would work.This Danforth shooter was clearly mentally ill but used a gun illegally acquired.
I think we still need to account to somebody for the number of long guns a person has as its to easy for straw purchasers to be supplying the illegal market with legally acquired firearms and Wendy Cukier is always happy to point this out in media spots because long guns are still being used in domestic murders.
I agree it should be nobody,s business how many long guns we have in our collections as the majority of us are law abiding and don,t purposely supply the criminal element, but what about the people who do?The easy answer is charge them, prosecute these straw providers,but exactly how do you do that,when you cannot trace back the guns.
Read it and weep.
https://postmedia.us.janrainsso.com/...to-a-new-study
Retailer are a start Gilroy.
I am not a well cars kill more. Think that a redicilous argument.
However, impaired driving?
Kill 10, yes ten times more people and breaks infinitely more bodies ( crash survivors) than guns. Let alone all the other I’ll effects from alcoholism, addition, spousal/child abuse, alcohol fueled crime such as rape, assualt, and more
Yet no-one screams “ban booze”...and it wasn’t until the various agencies got serious about it, started throwing the book at people, that things started to change. That said, despite significant change. It still kill 2000-3000 per year. To the 200 guns do. And little different than an irresponsible gun owner pointing a loaded gun down a street....
Kookier, is kookier and bat Shyte crazy. She’s made a life for herself, she will never change.
Nor will the “nra”...just as much a part of the problem, as her, “liberals”, and “Leo” ( broadstroke for all the agencies/arms)...
Funny, cops somehow seem to know who every dime bag dealer is, are able to find and bust casual users for growing 6 plants in the Back yards ( I know a family that was busted for that).
But round up the bangers and bikers and Russians selling the guns.....
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Unfortunately people see a need for cars in order to commute. What you have to provide people with is reasons for needing a firearm. If you don’t hunt, and you have not interest in recreational shooting. Why have a gun?
You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
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