Some chatter on new gun bill

[jaycee]

Unfortunately people see a need for cars in order to commute. What you have to provide people with is reasons for needing a firearm. If you don’t hunt, and you have not interest in recreational shooting. Why have a gun?

You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

Some have them because they are collectors, just as some collect " butterflies ",
A fellow I have known for years, has quite a collection of firearms both handguns and long guns, and prohibited, but has absolutely no interest in hunting or recreational shooting, It's just a hobby of his.

[welsh]

Round and round she goes. The media does what it does. Sensationalized everything, rhetoric and hyperbole, mass hysteria sells. Statistics and trends to the contrary be damned.

In fact, a sizeable number of opinion pieces, and a number of explainers, have suggested that a handgun ban will have little practical effect.

The media are not a monolithic block.

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[LoR]

Not cars and car accidents Gun Nut. Drunk Driving.

What purpose does booze serve. Absolutely none, in reality even less than guns, because guns do have purposes. Like hunting.

Point there is. No-body other than during the roaring 20s think we should ban booze. Despite the fact it
Kills 10x more
Maims 10-20-50? X more
And that just Impaired driving. Alcoholism, spousal/child abuse, and far more. Guns have nothing on booze....


And instead, we brought in measures to combat that specific crime, that specific problem.

[LoR]

Welsh, are you suggesting the media doesn’t do those things? On any topic????

While there might be the odd article, op-ed that points out it would be inneftive. Those few are lost in the noise...drowned out..

That’s not though what I said, was taking about. I said if I’ve read 50 peices, many (note I didn’t say all, I said many)

I haven’t seen ONE that suggest it’s past time they crack down on the

The problem.
but that would critical of Leo, wouldn’t it?

[welsh]

Obviously the media sometimes sensationalize things. But let's be careful with what we mean by that.

Reporting a major news story as a major news story is not sensationalizing. Neither is publishing an opinion column you disagree with.

Reporting on this story has not been particularly sensational, with the exception of a few outlets trying to play up a terrorist angle.

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[LoR]

To each their own Welsh.

It’s now been a week, and they are still “reporting” on it. Milking it...
Whether that’s articles with a slant and hyperbole toward bans and GC, as previously mentioned. Many have referenced the current 4 year trend, and uptick in “domestic” sources, and subtle hints about “since Harper”.... despite the fact the current trend is below the 13-20 year average, and certainly way below the average say 2003-2010...

speculation about his ties, Op-Ed’s about mass shootings, types of firearms, or even calibers. Continue...

Straight up question you don’t have to answer, but maybe think about for your next piece. Instead of typical gun culture stuff, or gun laws (the good and bad). Shine more light on the problem, and those who aren’t doing a good enough job.

I will say I stand corrected.

There is now one, finally.......that’s putting just a wee bit of the spotlight on those whose job it is. And their failigs

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...box=1532908900

[welsh]

They're still reporting it because it's still a news story.

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[LoR]

It’s a week old.

When was the last time, a drunk took out a family of 4, it went for a week like these things do...not even sure the guy that plowed into pedestrians just weeks ago got this much, or this kind of “crap”...reporting

And the btw that wasn’t a criticism but a suggestion. You amongst most “writers/journalist” do know firearms regulation, various statistics, both here and south..do know how to dig into stats, trends, .do have a good grasp of what specifically is our problem...(gangs)

Do seem to understand they are the problem and that Leo isn’t doing their jobs..

[welsh]

Coverage of the van attack persisted well over a week.

The attack occurred in late April, and articles connected to the attack continued to appear in early June. Also, it received broader coverage, including editorial page pieces in the NYT and a related feature in The New Yorker in mid May.

If you're not sure if it got as much attention, it's because you're not looking.

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[LoR]

I see that like the gun debate, same old tired same old and some things never change.

I’ve had to correct you twice now on what I said, etc. including a direct misquote where you somehow mistook “many” to mean a, “monolithic block”. How’s that for hyperbole...and inability to read....

And you will still pick the We bones, semantics and more to prove your intellectual superiority.



Maybe it’s time to change, and try something new. Not unlike guns

I’m out.
Your right Welsh, always are