Some chatter on new gun bill

[Gilroy]

[QUOTE=welsh;1065619]Except that most people who do crimes don't use guns, and probably never have guns.

About 10% (3.8 million) of Canadians have criminal records. Most people who have criminal records have records for minor crimes.

Not where I worked the criminal records were several pages long and full of heavy duty crimes.Even so called "minor crimes" like drug addicts breaking into vehicles,I have seen records exceeding 100 theft and possession convictions.It might seem minor but imagine the number of vehicles broken into and insurance claims and bother faced by the victims.You park in a downtown lot,your window gets punted in and away goes your lap top with all your business in it.I took a repeat offender around one night to 10 parking lots where he has broke into 72 vehicles over the course of a month.

Little bit off topic but here are no minor crimes if your the victim.

[Gun Nut]

The trafficker in question did not have 337 handguns.

He had 33 new-in-box Glocks, along with a large quantity of narcotics, which resulted in 337 charges.

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Right! I must have skim over the article too fast, thanks for correcting me. 33 guns and 42 kilos of carfentanil, a friend of the brother of the guy who did the Danforth shootings. He was out on bail when the shootings happen. Did they ever actually determine where the shooter got the gun and ammunition he used?

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[welsh]

Not confirmed yet, to my knowledge.

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[mosquito]

Right! I must have skim over the article too fast, thanks for correcting me. 33 guns and 42 kilos of carfentanil, a friend of the brother of the guy who did the Danforth shootings. He was out on bail when the shootings happen. Did they ever actually determine where the shooter got the gun and ammunition he used?

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Who cares, one smuggler, poof he has that number of handguns etc.

What I care about is why they had " 42 kilos of carfentanil"? Where they got it? What was the purpose? Is there more? Who has it?

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...to-police-say/
"Court documents reveal his older brother Fahad (who is now in a coma) previously lived at a home in Pickering, Ont., just east of Toronto, where 33 guns and 42 kilograms of carfentanil, a lethal opioid, were seized last fall."

https://globalnews.ca/news/2939935/w...ses-in-the-us/
"@RCMPAlberta say 20 micrograms of #carfentanil can be fatal, which = less than grain of salt pic.twitter.com/OX5VaD6jwn"
https://globalnews.ca/news/2873243/r...than-fentanyl/

SO ... if 28 kg was estimated at $3,200,000 so doing the math .... $4,800,000 worth of drugs... assuming a similar purity etc.
https://globalnews.ca/news/4002739/e...-from-1-house/

That is also enough to kill basically 2/3 the population of Canada.

[welsh]

They had 42 kg of cut carfentanil ready for street distribution, not 42 kg of pure carfentanil. The actual quantity of pure carfentanil was grams, not kilograms.

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[trimmer21]

They had 42 kg of cut carfentanil ready for street distribution, not 42 kg of pure carfentanil. The actual quantity of pure carfentanil was grams, not kilograms.

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How do they even mix that crap without killing themselves? Police officers just need to touch one grain of the stuff,ingest it through their skin and if it doesn't kill them outright,they'll land in the hospital for over a week. 42kg.'s of that stuff would be weapons of mass destruction quantity while 42 grams can still kill a lot of people. If,down the road,we find the government has lied to us over this,there'll be no place safe for the Liberals to hide.

[mosquito]

How do they even mix that crap without killing themselves? Police officers just need to touch one grain of the stuff,ingest it through their skin and if it doesn't kill them outright,they'll land in the hospital for over a week. 42kg.'s of that stuff would be weapons of mass destruction quantity while 42 grams can still kill a lot of people. If,down the road,we find the government has lied to us over this,there'll be no place safe for the Liberals to hide.

Well ... just move the decimal over .... instead it is 21,000.... or the equivalent of the township of Wilmot
https://www.wilmot.ca/en/living-here...ty-Profile.pdf
or the town of Amherstburg
https://www.amherstburg.ca/en/do-bus...y-of-Life.aspx


.. and it is still probably in the millions of dollars based on the previous link

[Gun Nut]

Not confirmed yet, to my knowledge.

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Welsh, what would it look like after this guy made bail, if he was the one who furnished the handgun for the Danforth shooting. Meanwhile the police are intentionally keeping a lid on that fact? The guy appears to have some type of a well establish conduit, in order to have amass his sizeable arsenal and his stash of such a potent drug. Meanwhile, the Danforth gun may have been somewhere in his conduit as he was making bail, and he simply past it over to the shooter, and convinced him, society was to blame for his brother’s condition and he should seek some sort of revenge. Again, with ISIS eventually claiming responsible, may be there was something more sinister a foot but it got foiled by the police raid. How about that for a conspiracy theory?

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[mosquito]

Here we go...

Liberals to look at 'full ban' on handguns, assault weapons
Bill Blair, minister of border security and organized crime reduction, will lead gun control review
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/lib...ears-1.4801700



Think they will include "sniper" rifles ..... assault rifle equivalents (Semi auto) ....... ???

[greatwhite]

I suspect he won't get a ban through before the next election, but if re-elected I will guarantee the Liberals will ban all; military style guns and all handguns with no buy back.

Here we go...

Liberals to look at 'full ban' on handguns, assault weapons
Bill Blair, minister of border security and organized crime reduction, will lead gun control review
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/lib...ears-1.4801700



Think they will include "sniper" rifles ..... assault rifle equivalents (Semi auto) ....... ???