Exciting new vehicle

[Fisherman]

They state it is Best in Class Towing;
Jeep = 7,650 lbs. vs Chev. 1500 Silverado 6.2 L v8 =12,500 lbs.
Chev. 4.3Lv6 =7,600 lbs.
Chev. 5.3L v8 =9,800- 11,000 lbs.

Something is dreadfully wrong in their calculations.
I definitely will not give up a Chev. for that new Jeep.

They can make all the claims they like as it's in a class of its own. It will initially come with the 3.6 Pentastar and later with the 3.0 Diesel. So it looks like your 4.3 GM is "slightly" anemic.

[rf2]

They state it is Best in Class Towing;
Jeep = 7,650 lbs. vs Chev. 1500 Silverado 6.2 L v8 =12,500 lbs.
Chev. 4.3Lv6 =7,600 lbs.
Chev. 5.3L v8 =9,800- 11,000 lbs.

Something is dreadfully wrong in their calculations.
I definitely will not give up a Chev. for that new Jeep.

It is in the class with the Colorado, Tacoma, Ranger, Ridgeline...

[Snowwalker]

I don't think African models are available in Canada. If they were,no one would want to cough up the mega bucks after duty and tarrifs were applied. They'd be cost prohibitive except the very well healed. Hell,I'd settle for an old Willys army jeep.

If you like I can give a link to buy them off the west coast. I hear they may start selling the new Hilux as well.

[kokes]

It is in the class with the Colorado, Tacoma, Ranger, Ridgeline...

Youre right rf2, I think jaycee was comparing the Gladiator which is in the mid-size truck range to full size trucks..

this gladiator looks awesome...it may be pricey but these Jeeps hold their value better than any other vehicle. The Wrangler is a perennial winner of the Kelley Blue book award for best residual value, I imagine the Gladiator will do the same. Exciting truck for sure, as if we didn't have enough options to chose from already haha

[werner.reiche]

They state it is Best in Class Towing;
Jeep = 7,650 lbs. vs Chev. 1500 Silverado 6.2 L v8 =12,500 lbs.
Chev. 4.3Lv6 =7,600 lbs.
Chev. 5.3L v8 =9,800- 11,000 lbs.

Something is dreadfully wrong in their calculations.
I definitely will not give up a Chev. for that new Jeep.

Jaycee - it's not in the Silverado class - its in the Colorado class.

I can't see buying one of these when you'll be able to buy a 4x4 crew cab Silverado for less - which I expect.
One major problem I see with the gladiator is the loooong wheelbase.
A major part of the coolness of a jeep is the short wheelbase and relative to that the long suspension travel - neither of which will exist in the gladiator.

"Both literally and figuratively, the Gladiator is a big truck with big tire tracks to fill. For Jeep, it expands the Wrangler lineup in a new direction. For parent company Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, the Gladiator squares off against a burgeoning market of mid-size trucks such as the Chevy Colorado, Ford Ranger, and Toyota Tacoma. Available in Sport, Overland, and Rubicon trim levels, the Gladiator goes on sale during the second quarter of 2019. "

[jaycee]

It is in the class with the Colorado, Tacoma, Ranger, Ridgeline...

I just checked specs. on a Colorado, with a turbo diesel it's towing capacity is 7,700 lbs, still more than the Jeep, and no doubt a lot less money.
Only the diesel Colorado/Canyon, rated for 7,700 pounds, will out-tow the Ford. The Toyota Tacoma comes closest to the Ranger’s payload numbers with a rating of 1,620 pounds.

Read more: https://autoweek.com/article/trucks/...#ixzz5YjLqkmaz

[rf2]

Jaycee - it's not in the Silverado class - its in the Colorado class.

I can't see buying one of these when you'll be able to buy a 4x4 crew cab Silverado for less - which I expect.
One major problem I see with the gladiator is the loooong wheelbase.
A major part of the coolness of a jeep is the short wheelbase and relative to that the long suspension travel - neither of which will exist in the gladiator.

All pick-ups are currently overpriced, and I expect the Gladiator will not be any different. But, based on my experience with Jeeps, I expect that the Gladiator will outperform any comparable vehicle off-road. For someone who is willing to spend big bucks on a new pick-up truck and who wants something that is useful off-road, they would probably be willing to spend a bit extra for the Gladiator. True, the wheelbase is long in comparison to Jeeps, but not in comparison to other pick-ups. For that reason, anyone who pays any attention to details shouldn't expect that the Gladiator will perform as well off road as say a Wrangler. I didn't check the specs on suspension travel, but I see no reason to expect it to be significantly different from a Wrangler. In addition, I would think (hope?) that many aftermarket parts for the Wrangler would work on the Gladiator, so suspension travel can always be modified if it is not sufficient in stock form.

Anyway, time will tell if the Gladiator is successful. I doubt it will become the top selling mid-sized pick-up. Jeeps are not for everyone, and people don't associate Jeep with pick-up, so brand loyalty will play a big role.

I just checked specs. on a Colorado, with a turbo diesel it's towing capacity is 7,700 lbs, still more than the Jeep, and no doubt a lot less money.
Only the diesel Colorado/Canyon, rated for 7,700 pounds, will out-tow the Ford. The Toyota Tacoma comes closest to the Ranger’s payload numbers with a rating of 1,620 pounds.

Read more: https://autoweek.com/article/trucks/...#ixzz5YjLqkmaz

I don't think they have released the specs on the diesel powered Gladiator yet - it will be available in 2020.
Colorados are not cheap, by the way. Mid-sized pick-ups seem to be the most over priced of the bunch based on what you get.

[jaycee]

Colorados are not cheap, by the way. Mid-sized pick-ups seem to be the most over priced of the bunch based on what you get.

All trucks are way overpriced, especially the Mid Sized!

Hopefully the Gladiator will not be as rust prone as the previous Jeep pick up truck.
Years ago , friend of mine owned a body shop , and told me to stay away from the Jeep pick up due to body rusting issues as it had many little nooks and crannies that collected mud and debris and moisture , causing many rust out problems even with rust proofing applied.

[rf2]

All trucks are way overpriced, especially the Mid Sized!

Hopefully the Gladiator will not be as rust prone as the previous Jeep pick up truck.
Years ago , friend of mine owned a body shop , and told me to stay away from the Jeep pick up due to body rusting issues as it had many little nooks and crannies that collected mud and debris and moisture , causing many rust out problems even with rust proofing applied.

Agreed. Rust has been a big problem with Jeeps. That being said, Tacomas had that whole frame recall issue several years back, too.

Anyway, I'm just dreaming here. Unless I win the lottery, I won't be buying a new Gladiator. Right now, even looking at a 10 year old Wrangler is depressing. I bought my current Jeep Cherokee when it was 10 years old and I paid ~$4K for a really low mileage, rust free (from BC) gem. Currently, a comparable 10 year old Wrangler Unlimited is ~$15k and up.

[rf2]

You can also wait another 20 years then buy a used one. Have always liked the Jeep truck... Expensive I bet !!!

Whoa, wait a minute! My Cherokee was 10 years old when I bought it, not 20. Give me some credit!