Hunting with a Tavor

[CalTek]

That looks like something I would purchase when I am playing Counter Strike or Call of Duty on the PC. IMO that is a weapon for the military and not the sport of hunting....but that is (and I stress) just my opinion. But if it is legal to use than there is no problem with using it....I just question why something so powerful and "military-style" needs to be used in place of a your traditional firearm?

[lucky07]

It's not all that powerful, it's parent case is the .223 ... it's military style well... can't argue that one lol.

[CalTek]

It's not all that powerful, it's parent case is the .223 ... it's military style well... can't argue that one lol.

Thanks for the correction....note I am not a firearm expert by any means

[skeeter1]

No one has even really hit on the safety aspect of "spraying" ten high power rifle rounds at a running coyote what with ricochets, misses and pass throughs who knows where all those projectiles are going and guess what, you are responsible for each of them unitl they come to rest (hopefully not in a animate target other than the coyote). If you try to tell me that with that kind of barrage in the bush at running game (coyotes) that you know where all your rounds end up, sorry but I think you are mistaken .223 has to carry for a couple miles at least

Scott

[Spot-n-Stalk]

...Coyote, deer, groundhog whatever, I related that as an example of the macho mentality of people getting thier bloodlust fix out of annihilating some poor creature to death with a hail of lead...

Troll...

And you post this on a hunting forum? OMG. I'm sorry but I do not share your "Disney" view of nature.

Hail of led? Bloodlust?

There is no difference between shooting a coyote twice with a .223 or blasting them with a $9,999 gold embossed, game scene engraved fancy grain Turkish walnut-stocked shotgun. One or the other doesn't make one better or lesser, or more humane for that matter.

[lucky07]

No one has even really hit on the safety aspect of "spraying" ten high power rifle rounds at a running coyote what with ricochets, misses and pass throughs who knows where all those projectiles are going and guess what, you are responsible for each of them unitl they come to rest (hopefully not in a animate target other than the coyote). If you try to tell me that with that kind of barrage in the bush at running game (coyotes) that you know where all your rounds end up, sorry but I think you are mistaken .223 has to carry for a couple miles at least

Scott

5.56x45 is NOT high powered!!! Hell buy that logic a .22 is a high powered rifle. It obviously carries a couple miles at least as you say ... but so does a .22LR.


The ricochet factor is a very real possibility and a good argument. But...

Spraying bullets around is obviously one of the stupidest things a person can do while hunting. But does me hunting with a Tavor mean I'm gonna go Rambo on everything that moves? No it doesn't. There is no difference between 10 semi well placed shots out of a Tavor and 10 scattered rounds out of a .303. The spray and pray comes from the owner, not the gun.


Following not directed at your post:

How in the hell did this thread turn from hunting with a Tavor to the guy with the Tavor just wants to spray bullets around and hope to kill some poor defenseless creature (because he's using an unconventional firearm evidently) and doesn't care about having a ricochet hit some poor child ???

Hunting with a 4000$ gun is only for prissy people that want to feel good about themselves and like to show others they have money, they are not real hunters but just rich pricks. <---- That statement makes just as much sense as some of the posts in this thread. Get a grip people, I honestly can't tell the difference between some of what I see here and what comes out of the antis manure spreaders.

[cantcatchacold]

Well, I read the whole thing from start. Every word. Last time I seen a thread like this I believe it included a Soviet SKS and it ended up with somebody calling me a Fudd!

I still dont see the attraction of something like that Tavor,or SKS, but I guess maybe Im too old, or old fashioned.I had my fill of military rifles while serving in the military, didnt really like them then, dont like em now.I have no interest in hunting with one.

But, nice o/u shotgun with good balance and a nice walnut stock, maybe a bit of hand engraving, now that, gets me interested!

Gordy

All in all the SKS is one of the best rifles of all time. You can drop them in sand, water, freeze them and they still fire. 7.62 is a big round so it could be a little over kill but other than that it sounds like a great bush gun with nice iron sights, much the same as an old lee enfield 303. Plus ammo is very common for these guns. Just my 2 cents. Keep in mind with the tavor, there is a good reason the most NATO forces shy away from them.

[sickofitall]

My comments are in direct response to comments made by the original author. But I have heard the same stuff from countless others about the necessity of having the quick follow up shot. Maybe it was the way I was raised in the woods but I don't understand why you need to have a quick second shot if your first shot made its mark. I don't want anyone to think I don't like repeaters or that nobody should have 5 shots in thier guns when they are hunting because that is not the case. But the comments about quick second shots and ten rounds have caught my attention. I'm sure my ethics don't sit well with some on this site, but I'm not going to be made to feel guilty about being a good shooter who can get it done with a single round.
Nobody can deny the TAVOR is on odd looking gun compared to the status quo, and I'm pretty sure the vast majority of us would fall over laughing if we saw somone with it in the field. So Mr. Spot & Stalk, have at 'er. Go be all you can be with your special tool, I'll take my buddy boyn' troll back to my Disneyland rainbow gumdrop world where hunters shoot straight and give thier quarry the respect they deserve.
BTW the Winchester CXP 1 55gr .223 rounds I put through my Remington 700P were shooting .75 to .50 MOA. that is cheap factory ammo that was shooting better than your handloads, just saying, if you want to save the time and money. My handload for the same gun was .25 MOA. 1 shot baby, no follow ups required.

813,

PS watch out for any IED's mr. wiley my have left around. Just kidding, this has been great fun,imagine how boring this world would be if we all had the same opinion.

[dave.swift6270]

you can field anything that is legal BUT there is a reason for a magazine limit. A modern rifle that shoots well should be welcomed --looks are not everything but becareful of the impression you leave with others. I have had to duck more than once because someone with a large capacity magazine starts blazing away at a running deer. One of these days I may shoot back. Fewer rounds means more careful shot placement.

[Joe549]

Wow... This thread is full of fail. Now I know where to come to if I am ever looking for a group of crusty old Fudds who are also ignorant of the laws. Just remember one thing, the antis want ALL the guns, not just the AR's, Tavor's, and other 'black guns' and pistols. They also want your wood stock blue steel deer rifles and duck guns. Your bolt action 30-06 with a scope is nothing more than a long distance sniper rifle to them.

Another very good point to remember.

How many here realize that it's guys who own guns like these tho are putting up the bulk of the fight so we can ALL keep our guns? When's the last time anyone has tried to get a group from this site to send letters to their MPs etc. trying to defend our rights? Once the govt. deems all black guns prohibs on the grounds that they can't be used to hunt and are nothing but killing machines (opinion that seems present here) these guys WILL stop fighting. Then we will lose our guns too. Maybe not all... but many types (only god knows what the standards will be then) will be confiscated without compensation.

How is killing a coyote with a .223 different from killing one with a 5.56x45???

How many of you here that are throwing the 'AR crowd' under the bus have done anything in the fight to improve our firearms laws? My guess would be absolutely ZERO!