Can you hunt on land owned by OPG, or land owned by provence of Ontario Infrastucture?

[trimmer21]

We are in 2019, there are easy ways to find out.
I've laid out 1000's of km of boundary lines, I worked all my life with compass, maps, GPS, GIS, - Arc Map etc. I know what is private land and what is crown.
I also own quite a bit of properties across Ontario and I'm fully aware what trespassers do on my properties.
It doesn't change my point of view that the act needs to be revised / modernize.

How would you like to see the law changed?

[Bluebulldog]

We are in 2019, there are easy ways to find out.
I've laid out 1000's of km of boundary lines, I worked all my life with compass, maps, GPS, GIS, - Arc Map etc. I know what is private land and what is crown.
I also own quite a bit of properties across Ontario and I'm fully aware what trespassers do on my properties.
It doesn't change my point of view that the act needs to be revised / modernize.

Are all your properties fenced / signed?

How would you like to see the act changed. Balancing the notion that in some cases, trespassers do not know accurately where a boundary line is?

[canadaman30]

Are all your properties fenced / signed?

How would you like to see the act changed. Balancing the notion that in some cases, trespassers do not know accurately where a boundary line is?

To be honest, this type of attitude is why the honest guy can find it difficult gaining hunting permissions. Many farmer land owners get sickntired of dealing with trespassing hunters helping themselves to their properties without asking. "No fence, no signs", screw it, let's go hunting is what has destroyed many farmer hunter relations....

[Bluebulldog]

To be honest, this type of attitude is why the honest guy can find it difficult gaining hunting permissions. Many farmer land owners get sickntired of dealing with trespassing hunters helping themselves to their properties without asking. "No fence, no signs", screw it, let's go hunting is what has destroyed many farmer hunter relations....

Completely agree. I've seen it happen in lots of spots in SW Ont.

However, I have not exhibited any "attitude", or stance on the matter.

I also own rural properties. Most are thankfully not near access points.

I'm speaking specifically about the legislation itself.

1. An owner complaining about the current legislation should ensure that they are compliant, or really they have zero argument.

2. What you have posted is clearly misleading. Any farmer, with an active operation or not, doesn't have to fence, nor sign their property for the TPA to be in effect. There would be no confusion as to a workable piece of land vs. a remote section of bush, which is what was referred to by the OP.

3. The way the TPA is worded, it would be enough to enforce. However, yes, I know of some folks who have come up this way from the London area, who literally travel up here, and then walk on to fields hoping they won't be asked to leave......yes, already said it was crummy.

4. Revision to the TPA would be nice. Having said that, it was drafted with an effort to mitigate the "idiot factor". Meaning it would not be overly punitive to anyone in fact wandering onto private property in error.

My question is to ask, bearing that in mind, what would the revisions look like.

[Gilroy]

Completely agree. I've seen it happen in lots of spots in SW Ont.

However, I have not exhibited any "attitude", or stance on the matter.

I also own rural properties. Most are thankfully not near access points.

I'm speaking specifically about the legislation itself.

1. An owner complaining about the current legislation should ensure that they are compliant, or really they have zero argument.

2. What you have posted is clearly misleading. Any farmer, with an active operation or not, doesn't have to fence, nor sign their property for the TPA to be in effect. There would be no confusion as to a workable piece of land vs. a remote section of bush, which is what was referred to by the OP.

3. The way the TPA is worded, it would be enough to enforce. However, yes, I know of some folks who have come up this way from the London area, who literally travel up here, and then walk on to fields hoping they won't be asked to leave......yes, already said it was crummy.

4. Revision to the TPA would be nice. Having said that, it was drafted with an effort to mitigate the "idiot factor". Meaning it would not be overly punitive to anyone in fact wandering onto private property in error.

My question is to ask, bearing that in mind, what would the revisions look like.

Pretty simple really the hunter would provide written permission for any property they do not own, with a contact number for the registered landowner.Owners of property should not have to plaster no trespassing signs all over the place, these days with access to so much information most anyone can find out in minutes what land is Crown for instance and what is not.

[Bluebulldog]

Pretty simple really the hunter would provide written permission for any property they do not own, with a contact number for the registered landowner.Owners of property should not have to plaster no trespassing signs all over the place, these days with access to so much information most anyone can find out in minutes what land is Crown for instance and what is not.

"Pretty simple".

The TPA isn't written specifically with hunters, or written permission in mind now is it Gilroy? ( Ex LEO, correct?).

Now, if we were to crack open the FWCA and firm up the "Trespass to hunt" criteria.....

[trimmer21]

"Pretty simple".

The TPA isn't written specifically with hunters, or written permission in mind now is it Gilroy? ( Ex LEO, correct?).

Now, if we were to crack open the FWCA and firm up the "Trespass to hunt" criteria.....

With only a set fine of $150,trespassers simply pay it by credit card and a shoulder shrug. Now,if it was $1K and a 1 year license suspension for a first offense,it might get someone's attention. As mentioned previously,though,if that's they way it's going to be ,landowners can count on going to court every time to give evidence. They,too,must have every "i" dotted and "t" crossed with every sign in place and every gate closed and locked. Is that really how we want it?

[Deer Hunter]

Put the onus on the hunter or person to prove that they have a right or permission to be on that parcel of land.
Change the wording in the act to make it clear what trespassing is and what are the consequences for those smart azzes that are fully aware that they are on private property.
Stiffer fines are needed and like mentioned by trimmer license suspension for those repeat offenders.
Have clear and concise directives for police officers and judges to help them do their jobs properly.

And yes Bbd my properties are identified as private property with no trespassing allowed.
I’m presently sitting in my camp on 240 acres situated on 2 lakes and could bore you all night with trespassers stories.
Also sorry, I’m not going to waste my time arguing with someone that says it’s ok to play stupid and trespass on others people property that they worked hard all their life’s to acquire.
Good night, getting up early to work on my properties.

[redd foxx]

I agree that the FWCA should be changed to have hunters have written permission on their person while hunting on private property other than their own. This is the way it works for the deer hunt on Manitoulin Island if I'm not mistaken. The onus should not be on the landowner to sign property, etc. and under the FWCA there is provision for hunting suspensions when convicted.

[jaycee]

Put the onus on the hunter or person to prove that they have a right or permission to be on that parcel of land.
Change the wording in the act to make it clear what trespassing is and what are the consequences for those smart azzes that are fully aware that they are on private property.
Stiffer fines are needed and like mentioned by trimmer license suspension for those repeat offenders.
Have clear and concise directives for police officers and judges to help them do their jobs properly.

And yes Bbd my properties are identified as private property with no trespassing allowed.
I’m presently sitting in my camp on 240 acres situated on 2 lakes and could bore you all night with trespassers stories.
Also sorry, I’m not going to waste my time arguing with someone that says it’s ok to play stupid and trespass on others people property that they worked hard all their life’s to acquire.
Good night, getting up early to work on my properties.

How much clearer do you want the wording to be ??
If you read the act in it's entirety, it is very clear . link; http://www.canlii.org/en/on/laws/sta...990-c-t21.html