Single use plastics in ammunition

[Gun Nut]

With the ongoing litany of concern over single-use-plastic causing environmental damage I have to wonder how long we have before they tackle the ammunition manufacturers about the plastic used in the production of shot-shells. In some cases the entire shot-shell hull is made of plastic, or the hull is made with a combination of mental and plastic. Then there are the plastic wad and shot sleeve systems that get spewed out with each load fired, to lie abandon where they fall. You would think by now the shotshell manufacturers might become proactive enough to switch back to paper products. I can see this eventually becoming an issue, after all they killed the use of lead shot because it was affecting the water resource and waterfowl. You have wonder how long before they clamp down on the single-use-plastic in shot-shells. Something to think about.

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[greatwhite]

I don't think most people realize the number of things that constitute single use. Would they ban it across or be selective..

Many medical syringes are single use, condoms, pill bottles, tampons, those juice boxes are actually plastic contrary to Trudeau's thoughts (did he make it past grade 6?), disposal lighters.

What I find funny is I still remember when they were promoting plastic bags and stop using paper so we could save the trees.
So forestry companies start your engines and begin mowing them there tree's down?

Most people probably 90% of the population does not have the slightest clue in life.

Yeah sure we could plant Hemp, will have to plant lot's I guess we could either mow down more tree's or cut our food supply.

[welsh]

This is already an issue in the UK, I believe. Plastic wads are on the way out.

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[kickingfrog]

I am so pro garbage on this one. Forget the environment. What's in this for me? I will not bend one inch to make things better for anyone else, even my kids and grandkids. Eff em.

[greatwhite]

I have no problem saving the environment. But is cutting the tree's down saving the environment? Back in the 1970's and 1980's did we not switch to plastic to save the environment and stop cutting tree's? Many of those tree's that were planted are now maturing should we just go clear cut emm all? What is your alternative that has zero effect on the environment? Hemp? sure let's stop growing food to plant Hemp or clear cut more land to grow Hemp.

Garbage like plastics should be used to create energy it's done quite well in Europe with energy to waste systems. An entrepreneur in Ottawa Rod Bryden was trying to develop a home grown plasma gasification system, but it ended. They do have systems in Europe.

No matter what you choose there will be an environmental reaction it is how we handle it that matters.

Choose your poison.

I am so pro garbage on this one. Forget the environment. What's in this for me? I will not bend one inch to make things better for anyone else, even my kids and grandkids. Eff em.

[kickingfrog]

Most people probably 90% of the population does not have the slightest clue in life.

One of the few times I agree with something you've said.

[Snowwalker]

This is already an issue in the UK, I believe. Plastic wads are on the way out.

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Lots of things the wads can be made of that break down after being fired. Not sure you would want to make hulls out of stuff that rots before you use.

Guess we will have just bring back brass hulls and over shot wads..

Anyone know were I can get a good roll crimper for brass 12 gauge hulls?

[dean.f]

I've considered this before as I was picking dozens of spent shells out of the lake and wads off the boat ramp. It would be nice if somebody could come up with an alternative. Until they do, I'll just keep picking them up as I find them.

Society has grown to rely on Plastics, I'll probably be dead and gone before they find the next best thing.

[Gun Nut]

Lots of things the wads can be made of that break down after being fired. Not sure you would want to make hulls out of stuff that rots before you use.

Guess we will have just bring back brass hulls and over shot wads..

Anyone know were I can get a good roll crimper for brass 12 gauge hulls?

Actually the brass headed-waxed cardboard hulls worked well, Winchester was even using cardboard cylinders in their shell for sleeves to protect the shot, at least that is what I discovered from having taken a few apart. I have to wonder what was the big push to uses plastic. I can only think it got pushed to use up any surplus oil, so they could complain about an oil shortish in order to justify jacking the price of gas from 50 cents a gallon to over a dollar a liter. Plastic sure did catch on, replacing the paper grocery bag, cardboard packing materials, the wooden bottle case, the recyclable glass bottle, the chrome/mental bumpers in most automobiles, as well as a multitude of other natural based produces. Now it has ended acting as a stopper in the digestive of track of many of the larger sea mammals, causing their death. Just because tons of it has found its way into the earth’s oceans. It seems a bit ironic when you think about it, that they are afraid of a potential spillage of bunker oil in B.C. coastal waters, meanwhile an oil base by-product is already doing considerable more damage than they might have imagined.


You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

[gbk]

You are right GunNut-somehow us hunters and fishermens maybe could also be more concerned,and somehow lead a way to reducing man caused unnecessary pollution.
While much of the plastic in plastic product form does not create as much damage as an oil spill,but definitely harms overall big time.

Maybe a return fee on spent shells would help.
Before someone would "kill"me here-does it works on single use bag?Yes!

Do we find 100 and 100 of them shells in the forests-lakes-rivers-meadows?.Yes!
Do we collect them when found-i know many outdoors men they do(even here on the forum we see this notion all the time)
So -why not?
Small care would go a long way.

Now-outdoors man are not the only ,just a small portion of "pollutants"-this kind or similar "reduction" method could apply to everyone,many other unnecessary throw away stuff too could be reduced or cut out..............