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July 11th, 2019, 01:24 PM
#41

Originally Posted by
Bluebulldog
Odd scenario.
Typically a septic can't be installed without a qualifying building, as you need to show occupancy, and calculations for waste water, set backs etc.
A well usually won't be drilled unless there is a record of same, as there are specific requirements under the Source Water Protection Act.
OP, if it's a decent deal, I'd go for it. The age of the building, and the subsequent work, would indicate that even if the structure was done without permit, it likely is grandfathered, as evidenced by the septic, and most recently the well.
Does the township have an interactive mapping site that shows the structure? If so, that's a very good indication that it is.
awesome info. i never thought of the grandfatherd scenario.
im gunna have to call the city again but they still wont give any info on the property without the owners permission. guess ill have to wait and see if he responds tho the low ball offer.
Last edited by Bowjob; July 11th, 2019 at 01:27 PM.
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July 11th, 2019 01:24 PM
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July 11th, 2019, 02:07 PM
#42
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
Bluebulldog
Odd scenario.
Typically a septic can't be installed without a qualifying building, as you need to show occupancy, and calculations for waste water, set backs etc.
A well usually won't be drilled unless there is a record of same, as there are specific requirements under the Source Water Protection Act.
OP, if it's a decent deal, I'd go for it. The age of the building, and the subsequent work, would indicate that even if the structure was done without permit, it likely is grandfathered, as evidenced by the septic, and most recently the well.
Does the township have an interactive mapping site that shows the structure? If so, that's a very good indication that it is.
I don't understand what your talking about requirments for a well? I just drilled a well on a property with no septic. Simply call a well driller, pay and it's done.
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July 11th, 2019, 02:20 PM
#43

Originally Posted by
Bowjob
but they still wont give any info on the property without the owners permission. guess ill have to wait and see if he responds tho the low ball offer.
If he's using a real estate agent or a lawyer they (he) has to answer those questions by law.

Originally Posted by
canadaman30
I don't understand what your talking about requirments for a well? I just drilled a well on a property with no septic. Simply call a well driller, pay and it's done.
All well drilling requires a permit unless it's done under the guise of fixing a old well....but I know from personal experience it's not always done and can be done off the books.
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July 11th, 2019, 02:37 PM
#44

Originally Posted by
canadaman30
I don't understand what your talking about requirments for a well? I just drilled a well on a property with no septic. Simply call a well driller, pay and it's done.
Drilling contractors have a permanent "permit",the cost of which is included in the price. No driller can operate without one.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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July 11th, 2019, 02:49 PM
#45
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
MikePal
All well drilling requires a permit unless it's done under the guise of fixing a old well....but I know from personal experience it's not always done and can be done off the books.
Theres never been a well on my property, the well was done simply by making a phone call. There is a welded stamp on the side of the well casing, I would assume what ever legal requirements was included in the price.
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July 11th, 2019, 02:50 PM
#46
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
Drilling contractors have a permanent "permit",the cost of which is included in the price. No driller can operate without one.
beat me to it
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July 11th, 2019, 03:16 PM
#47

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
Drilling contractors have a permanent "permit",the cost of which is included in the price. No driller can operate without one.
Isn't that for him to be 'permitted' to do the work in the township....but as a home owner, who wants a well drilled, you must in the bylaws, request a permit from the municipality and the work has to be inspected... at least that is what is on the books in my municipality.
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July 11th, 2019, 03:50 PM
#48

Originally Posted by
MikePal
Isn't that for him to be 'permitted' to do the work in the township....but as a home owner, who wants a well drilled, you must in the bylaws, request a permit from the municipality and the work has to be inspected... at least that is what is on the books in my municipality.
thats also what i understand.
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July 11th, 2019, 03:52 PM
#49

Originally Posted by
MikePal
Isn't that for him to be 'permitted' to do the work in the township....but as a home owner, who wants a well drilled, you must in the bylaws, request a permit from the municipality and the work has to be inspected... at least that is what is on the books in my municipality.
as a land owner you need to have the permits to have the work done. its not the contractors problem to get the permits, thats what i researched as well.
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July 11th, 2019, 04:22 PM
#50
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
Bowjob
as a land owner you need to have the permits to have the work done. its not the contractors problem to get the permits, thats what i researched as well.
Do as you please, all I can tell you is I now have a well whereas I didn't before, it cost me nothing more than phone call to a legit well driller from my area. My taxes have not increased the well has a stamped number and no permit on my part was required from my township office.
Septic system is a whole other issue that does need a permit and inspection by township.