a sad story

[fishermccann]

My son was checked by a CO last year while bear hunting after he came down from his stand at dusk. The CO had said he had waited quietly in the woods for 45 minutes ,so as not to ruin my sons last minutes of the hunt. This was after the CO had walked 2 miles into the bush to check that one stand. Pretty nice CO I would say. Others would say he had nefarious intent. Different perspective I suppose.

[glen]

I’m glad it only takes 1.5hrs to figure out that an unopened bag of deer feed in the back of a truck is not being used to bait waterfowl.
Good thing it was only one bag.

[kk1]

Your first point in this post is irrelevant here. A CO needs to do his job regardless of the circumstances and if that means he checks you out in the middle of a goose hunt to see if you are above board then so be it. If that means it takes an hour and a half to convince him the deer feed in the back of your truck isn't being used to bait migratory birds then that is what it takes. Perhaps next time you go out hunting leaving the deer feed at home might be a good idea. They have an obligation to enforce the FWCA. They don't have an obligation to check hunters after the hunt. How many times do you think CO's have heard a BS story from a guy caught red-handed poaching?

I have been on my deer stand when a CO comes through looking for hunters. Did it ruin my hunt? Yea. Did I get mad about it? No. They have a job to do and I would much rather have them out there making sure everyone is playing by the same rules opposed to not having them out there at all. I have had more good CO interactions than bad ones. CO's aren't robots and can have bad days just like the rest of us.

Nothing illegal about having a bag of sealed deer feed in the back of a truck. The co walked around a cut corn field for 45min looking for corn??? Then proceeded to go thru every shell in our bags. Then tried to force a 4th shell in my gun. He was pushing so hard I had to remind him your never suppose to force anything into a firearm. I've been hunting 25yrs and have no problem being checked. But again cos need to use common sense and not harass hunters. Again they are people, theres good ones and bad ones. I could see if I had prior offences a more detailed check may in order. But I dont.

[Bowjob]

Court of Law is where you are innocent till proven guilty. In an uncontrolled situation in the field I respect the need for a guilty till proven innocent attitude a LEO may have for their own safety.

sadly the society we live in has changed. once your in court your basically guilty until proven innocent .

[finsfurfeathers]

Again not understanding, or you just like to argue, or your a cop. We were in the fence row in camo. Looking straight out. He comes from our left. Didnt notice til he was close and stopped him after he ran by. Cops, cos can do absolutely no wrong in your eyes, I get it. I bring up the simple point of thinking of the situation dealing with. Drawing a gun should only happen in a dangerous situation. These are not dangerous situations and only made dangerous by law enforcement. Like I said I really hope this doesn't happen to anyone here. Especially when young children are present.

LOL guess the geese coming from the left are safe eh? I understand completely. You expect the LEO's to be psychic. As you didn't know he was there he didn't know who you are. Unknown situation for him. Sure most likely you are an honest hunter however for some reason he was called there for suspicious actions. Until he identifies you what is he supposed to do?
And no I'm no a cop. Wouldn't be one for the main reason as they get no gratitude until you need 'em.

[fishermccann]

If a cop is approaching someone with a gun in his-her hands, I want the cop to have one in their hands as well.

[Dythbringer]

Nothing illegal about having a bag of sealed deer feed in the back of a truck. The co walked around a cut corn field for 45min looking for corn??? Then proceeded to go thru every shell in our bags. Then tried to force a 4th shell in my gun. He was pushing so hard I had to remind him your never suppose to force anything into a firearm. I've been hunting 25yrs and have no problem being checked. But again cos need to use common sense and not harass hunters. Again they are people, theres good ones and bad ones. I could see if I had prior offences a more detailed check may in order. But I dont.

As you know there is no baiting when waterfowling. So the CO has to determine you aren't going to use that deer feed in the back of the truck as bait or haven't already emptied bags of corn in the field. While there is nothing illegal about having a bag of sealed deer feed in the back of a truck, the CO needs to determine if what you are saying about that feed is true. Again, if that means it takes 45 mins to see if all the corn in the field is a result of normal agricultural practices, then so be it. As for the third shell into the magazine, I have to wonder if your judgement of how hard he pushed is a result of your perceived negative interactions with the CO. It seems to me that while you claim that you have no problem with being checked, you obviously have an issue with the length of time it takes a CO to do their job. They don't know you from anyone else in the world and they don't know who they are dealing with when they approach you. While you seem to be the type of person who stringently obeys the law (not a criticism, just a fact that I don't know you other than you posting online), there are plenty of guys out there that don't and who have not been caught yet. The CO doesn't know if he is dealing with a law abiding hunter or poacher who hasn't been caught yet.

[kk1]

LOL guess the geese coming from the left are safe eh? I understand completely. You expect the LEO's to be psychic. As you didn't know he was there he didn't know who you are. Unknown situation for him. Sure most likely you are an honest hunter however for some reason he was called there for suspicious actions. Until he identifies you what is he supposed to do?
And no I'm no a cop. Wouldn't be one for the main reason as they get no gratitude until you need 'em.

Read the part in a fence row, Not in layouts. Birds land into the wind if your not aware. Wind was at our back. So not looking down the row. Why wouldnt he use a mic or sound of his siren from the road or even yell, no bright vest on either. He ran parallel with the fencerow with his gun in hand. Did all the decoys not give it away that we were hunting. Horse people next door called in gunshots. Fff you have a lousy excuse and argue everything. If common sense were used here i wouldnt have had a terrified 4 yr old. It really is that simple! Done arguing with you.

[kk1]

As you know there is no baiting when waterfowling. So the CO has to determine you aren't going to use that deer feed in the back of the truck as bait or haven't already emptied bags of corn in the field. While there is nothing illegal about having a bag of sealed deer feed in the back of a truck, the CO needs to determine if what you are saying about that feed is true. Again, if that means it takes 45 mins to see if all the corn in the field is a result of normal agricultural practices, then so be it. As for the third shell into the magazine, I have to wonder if your judgement of how hard he pushed is a result of your perceived negative interactions with the CO. It seems to me that while you claim that you have no problem with being checked, you obviously have an issue with the length of time it takes a CO to do their job. They don't know you from anyone else in the world and they don't know who they are dealing with when they approach you. While you seem to be the type of person who stringently obeys the law (not a criticism, just a fact that I don't know you other than you posting online), there are plenty of guys out there that don't and who have not been caught yet. The CO doesn't know if he is dealing with a law abiding hunter or poacher who hasn't been caught yet.

Never asked about it just assumed he had me. Again it was sealed. Please dont downplay the shell part. You werent there. I was 10ft away and would say he tried for 30 seconds trying to bend my plug to get it in.

[smokin'stoegie]

What this site really needs is additional Topic that is related to LEO/CO Complaints. That minority opinionated group could spend their time on that thread and try to out do each other with their stories of negative contacts with LEO/CO's , whether they are reality, embellished or that they know a guy who has a cousin who has a neighbour who's uncle had it happen to him. They could feed off each other. People that choose to avoid it can.
That way we could all be happy.

Hello,,, hello,, anybody out there..??