More bureaucratic changes to the migratory bird act

[Sinker]

They do not define a residence or non-mobile facility. If the interpretation of a residence is a "permanent" Domicile ( your house)only and not a temporary Domicile ( camp/cabin) then with the new revisions to the MBCA makes eating a duck a violation.

Yeah, and I'm sure the game warden will be waiting behind the next tree with his spotting scope just itching to nail every single person who does it too. Do you understand how rediculous you sound, even thinking that?

Ever seen a tinfoil hat? Take yours off. Theres a lot bigger things to be worried about than eating a duck you shot, in your camp.

S.

[Snowwalker]

Yeah, and I'm sure the game warden will be waiting behind the next tree with his spotting scope just itching to nail every single person who does it too. Do you understand how rediculous you sound, even thinking that?

Ever seen a tinfoil hat? Take yours off. Theres a lot bigger things to be worried about than eating a duck you shot, in your camp.

S.

well s(t)inker, the question was originally about what MNRF would define a residence as, but since in your second reply you went off like a nut-bar I am taking great sport annoying you.

[Gun Nut]

The feds are changing the way we hunt waterfowl.
Canada gazette part 1 volume 153 edition 22 section 44

Birds deemed taken
44. For the purpose of section 42, a bird killed or taken by
an individual who is exercising a right referred to in section
21 and who is accompanied by an individual who is
not exercising such a right is deemed to be taken by the
individual who is not exercising that right.

https://mail.xplornet.ca/?_task=mail...hSXFDywJIKamzt

So basically if I am hunting with a native friend,WE can only shoot one white mans limit.I have been hunting with friends up the coast since the 80's.We had to observe the limit while hunting together.But that was a 2 man limitOne limit each..By himself he could do what he wanted.Now we have to share a limit.
Who's being penalized here and why.I could understand if the 2 of us had 50 birds and if stopped by the MNRF the non native claimed only a fraction of the count and i swore the rest were all taken by the other person.That wouldn't be right.But if everyone stayed within the federal limit,we are all following the rules.
I could go duck hunting with multiple non natives and shoot all their birds and claim only my limit.Whats the difference?It's the limit that we can shoot that I agree should be regulated,not WHO I hunt with.Thats just plain racism.
With this step the government is just re emphasizing the divide between native and non native hunters instead of coming up with ways to bring us closer.

OFAH,whats your stance on this?
Anything? It's not found anywhere on their site.This is one of those behind the scenes talks I mentioned in other threads between the OFAH and the MNRF.that doesn't help anyone.
Since this will affect us northerners rather than southerners I can see the OFAH sitting this one out,again.“I could go duck hunting with multiple non natives and shoot all their birds and claim only my limit.Whats the difference?It's the limit that we can shoot that I agree should be regulated,not WHO I hunt with.Thats just plain racism.”
Then they wonder why their popularity wanes the further north and Northwest you go.

Hi Couliewalker,Your comment that I've underlined and raised would seem to suggest that you are now allow to party hunt migratory birds. Have they now changed the regulations to made it legal to do so? Before after you had shot your limit, you were not allowed to help some else fill theirs. I wonder if they’re likely to be doing the same thing when it comes to turkey hunting.


You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

[jaycee]

I believe it is well understood that under The M.B.C.A. you could never party hunt for waterfowl, and to my knowledge and checking with Peterborough , that is still unchanged.

[rick_iles]

It's not about counting them in my limit.

It says that birds can not be processed for cooking in the hunting area or a Mobile facility. Camp's only 50 to 75 yards from the pond, am I still in the hunting area, does my camp count as NON-mobile or is it considered mobile?

Your camp, tent, trailer, mobile home, cabin......is a residence.....the intent is to prevent hunters from cleaning their birds in their blind...and not count as your daily limit..
In other words, take your birds home to process them...whether you are staying in a trailer, tent, cabin...etc., makes no difference...it’s your residence...

[Snowwalker]

Yeah, and I'm sure the game warden will be waiting behind the next tree with his spotting scope just itching to nail every single person who does it too. Do you understand how rediculous you sound, even thinking that?

Ever seen a tinfoil hat? Take yours off. Theres a lot bigger things to be worried about than eating a duck you shot, in your camp.

S.

Ya got an email this morning. CO I talked to said as long as I am not sleeping in the blind it can be a residence. A few office people have asked him the same thing, because it was added but not defined.

[Sinker]

well s(t)inker, the question was originally about what MNRF would define a residence as, but since in your second reply you went off like a nut-bar I am taking great sport annoying you.

IF you think that was me going off like a nut bar, you haven't seen anything yet. I have lots more than that!

you're just a troll with nothing better to do that's all. I'm sorry for you.

S.

[duckslayer]

Hi Couliewalker,Your comment that I've underlined and raised would seem to suggest that you are now allow to party hunt migratory birds. Have they now changed the regulations to made it legal to do so? Before after you had shot your limit, you were not allowed to help some else fill theirs. I wonder if they’re likely to be doing the same thing when it comes to turkey hunting.


You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

No you can not party hunt for waterfowl and nothing has changed. To interpret that from a guys post on a forum and then assume it might reflect other species..........oh boy........got to love the internet!!!!

Ya got an email this morning. CO I talked to said as long as I am not sleeping in the blind it can be a residence. A few office people have asked him the same thing, because it was added but not defined.

As if you actually wasted someone at the ministry’s time with one of the most ridiculous miss interpretations of a regulation I think I’ve seen.............wow they walk amongst us and are allowed to breed............need a head shaking emoji..

anyone who who read the new clarified regs and couldn’t understand it maybe shouldn’t be hunting.



Go figure they bring out language to clarify some “muddy waters” which made most guys happy to finally shut some other guys up but those people still have to try and “muddy” the waters. It’s all there in plain English...........maybe that’s the problem.

[Snowwalker]

As if you actually wasted someone at the ministry’s time with one of the most ridiculous miss interpretations of a regulation I think I’ve seen.........

Not the main reason I was talking to the CO.. SINCE my wife and his wife work together, we chat about a few things. On the subject of new regulations, and how much fun it can be to get clarifications sometimes, I said that Residence and NON-Mobile Facility was not defined. He figure I was just looking in the wrong spot(Documents).

When I got an email from him about what to bring to the BBQ, he mentioned the only interpretation he found was in interoffice memos.

As for wasting his time, generally chatting over the kitchen table hardly seems like I was wasting his time.

[duckslayer]

Not the main reason I was talking to the CO.. SINCE my wife and his wife work together, we chat about a few things. On the subject of new regulations, and how much fun it can be to get clarifications sometimes, I said that Residence and NON-Mobile Facility was not defined. He figure I was just looking in the wrong spot(Documents).

When I got an email from him about what to bring to the BBQ, he mentioned the only interpretation he found was in interoffice memos.

As for wasting his time, generally chatting over the kitchen table hardly seems like I was wasting his time.

Again missing the whole point that they already clarified the issue but you seemed to have to try to find some way to keep the waters “muddy” no need for you to keep on arguing the issue. Like I said anyone who read the new CLARIFIED regs and didn’t comprehend what they said should most likely not be hunting!!!


If you supposedly know this C O then why would you argue the dispatching a cripple from a boat many times on here...........I’ve yet to meet a C O who interpreted it any other way and I ask everyone I’ve had contact with.