September 2, 1859 - an event in history, that could happen again.

[trimmer21]

Has everyone forgotten about the Eastern Grid failure of Aug 2003 where almost the entire east was plunged into darkness for 3 days? No gas because the pumps were off,no cash because banks couldn't function and all retail ground to a stop because freezers shut down and sales staff couldn't deal with cash or credit card purchases (no calculators to do simple math). That was hilarious watching people that were suddenly completely bamboozled and could barely function.

[Fox]

Has everyone forgotten about the Eastern Grid failure of Aug 2003 where almost the entire east was plunged into darkness for 3 days? No gas because the pumps were off,no cash because banks couldn't function and all retail ground to a stop because freezers shut down and sales staff couldn't deal with cash or credit card purchases (no calculators to do simple math). That was hilarious watching people that were suddenly completely bamboozled and could barely function.

What about the ice storm of 98?

It was summer with the power grid failure so nobody was going to freeze to death, we just hung out and ate food to save it from being lost, also looked up at the stars a lot those nights.

[Bushmoose]

Has everyone forgotten about the Eastern Grid failure of Aug 2003 where almost the entire east was plunged into darkness for 3 days?

Yes, they have forgotten. For the masses, it's completely off their radar. The government will look after us!

[Bushmoose]

I am a prepper. If you don't understand what that is, or how the Carrington Event of 1859 would affect the North America (NA) today, then you should understand a grid down scenario.

What are the chances of Event 1% of 1% chance, however, if it does happen, virtually overnight NA would be in the 1800's. The impacts to a grid down scenario are well documented by Department of Home Land Security and the report issued in 2008 details the impacts on critical infrastructure, electrical grids, 3 day delivery supply chain. It started the prepper movement.

One only needs to look at how events are unfolding in anticipation of Hurricane Dorion and the stripping of shelves in Florida . Many do not understand the impacts of a grid down NA wide electrical outage, nor do they understand that it will 12-18 months before it will fixed. 31 major electrical Substations across NA will be out and the parts required to repair just these stations alone require 12 months to built in Southern Asia, let alone trying to ship those across the ocean, and transport across land for rebuilding.

If you think the government of USA or Canada will be setting up aid stations - think again, both armies don't have EMP hardened vehicles or planes to aid the civilian populations.

Further - if you read into the DHS scenario's the is a timeline to civil breakdown:

- 1-3 days - intial realization - no more food delivery
.....most only have 3-5 days of food on hand
- 1 week - food riots - civil breakdown - with no police or fire service - 85% of all vehicles will no longer function properly, if this event occurs during rush hour - all road systems will be clogged in cities
- 1 week hospital and back up power (if still works) will run out of fuel
- 3-7 all water and sewer functions cease - hi rise building start to empty as conditions become unliveable
- 2 weeks - peoples medications will run out, those dependant of medical devices will die - jails will release inmates - community militias will form - local regulators will form to protect communities
- 2 weeks - cities will empty and move to rural areas in search of food, water, shelter and safety from the mobs.
- 4 weeks - first deaths start to occur with dysentery, starvation, water and hygiene issues - the weak and children will start die off first
- 3-6 months 30% of population in NA will be dead
- 6-12 - 90% of NA population will be dead

One should not panic or see only doom and gloom, should one prepare for 1% of 1% chance - I don't know, however if don't, you be part of looters and mobs - if you do - you will be the target of the mobs. There is no easy solution, however - if you live in a city - your risk potential goes up exponentially . Even if you shelter in place with a years worth of food and water, it is only matter of time before your discovered and the mob comes for your resources.

Your best bet - is move to the country - learn to grow as much as you can - learn to become self sufficient as possible - seed save - learn about solar, water and wind power, animal husbandry, garden, preserving. Or get lots of guns and ammo - but odds are you wont last long that way.

Anyways my two cents.

Excellent post! No one will pay attention to it, and you will be labelled a "whacko", but a good post with sage advice!

[73hunter]

Excellent post! No one will pay attention to it, and you will be labelled a "whacko", but a good post with sage advice!

Nobody with any brains would label him a wacko, and yes I understand that you didnt.

When the SHTF I’m heading for the Soo, pls have your cabin ready for the hordes from the GTA.

[Bushmoose]

Nobody with any brains would label him a wacko, and yes I understand that you didnt.

When the SHTF I’m heading for the Soo, pls have your cabin ready for the hordes from the GTA.

BYOB it'll be quite a party!

[line052]

BYOG - and ammo

[Snowwalker]

For me it will likely be a "VERY" long walk home.

By a very long walk I means months if not close to a year. The whole time never knowing if my family is alive or dead.
1) I will not be in a good mood.
2) I doubt I "WILL SUFFER FOOLS" well.
3) I would have little idea were to find
my family or were( If ) they are
buried.

Imagine driving thru California or somewhere in the south west, and then having to Walk not only back to Canada but avoiding trouble along the way.

There are a lot of small minded Radical people out there. With the breakdown of civilization as we know it, every little group that can control a piece of ground will be it's own Thiefdom.

[rossh]

Think I saw that movie Snow walker .

[Snowwalker]

Think I saw that movie Snow walker .

You mean the one with the bush Pilot and the sick Inuit girl? That is a true story by the way.

I still remember being in Pine Point and listening to CBC every morning about the search for another Medical Flight that went down in the winter.

Only good thing would be if it happened over the winter months. I would likely have the woods and fields mostly to myself. Except for a few fellow hunters/Fishermen and the farmers, not too many city people are going to be running around the countryside.

Frozen meat lasts longer too.