Cow and calves

[kk1]

I have hunted deer for 36 years in Ontario but have only bought a moose licence every year since 2010.
The "logic" behind issuing moose tags has been just killing me!!!

So, in my humble opinion, they should just completely STOP the moose hunt for 3 years.

If we really want to help the population and give the MNRF a chance to get their act together and perhaps consult some actual hunters(!), and come up with a logical moose hunting system, then I will gladly put moose out of my mind for 3 years. Why is that so hard to do?!

Walleye fishing in Lake Scugog has been fully banned until further notice. If 'A' can be done, then 'B' can also be done by the same authority!

Wont make a difference to shut the season down. Certain people have no regulations on what they harvest and do it at any time of the year. Until this is dealt with you will see a steady decline.

[rick_iles]

NW Ontario the population may be fine but central and eastern Ontario not so much. I rarely see moose when driving up north to see family, used to always see tracks in the bush and now that is even way down.

And yet, they issue more tags in the east....go figure !!

[bellerivercrossbowhunter]

Unfortunately this has more to do with revenue than protecting the Ontario Moose species.

The MNR relies heavily on the revenue from Moose draw/license purchases.

An all out ban on Moose hunting in most WMU's might be warranted however it would bankrupt the MNR in lost revenue.

Unfortunately they are not willing to do what really needs to be done to save the moose population for future generations.

[Fox]

Wont make a difference to shut the season down. Certain people have no regulations on what they harvest and do it at any time of the year. Until this is dealt with you will see a steady decline.

Total BS, no matter how many the natives shoot there are still non-natives hunting. If the non-natives are not taking animals then those animals are more likely to live than they would if they are in the freezer of non-natives.

Yes there needs to be regulations for native hunts but start with what you can control and that is NOT SHOOTING COWS AND CALVES!!!!!!!!

[blargon]

I'm expecting to see a drop in Cow tags and minimal calf tags under the new system in 2021.

IMO, there should be no calf tags, and minimal cow tags.

[gbk]

[QUOTE=Hawkman;1095060]
So, in my humble opinion, they should just completely STOP the moose hunt for 3 years.

If we really want to help the population and give the MNRF a chance to get their act together and perhaps consult some actual hunters(!), and come up with a logical moose hunting system, then I will gladly put moose out of my mind for 3 years. Why is that so hard to do?!



This-as he said-for EVERYONE!

[gbk]

Total BS, no matter how many the natives shoot there are still non-natives hunting. If the non-natives are not taking animals then those animals are more likely to live than they would if they are in the freezer of non-natives.

Yes there needs to be regulations for native hunts but start with what you can control and that is NOT SHOOTING COWS AND CALVES!!!!!!!!

Sorry Fox-unfortunately public misconceptions,good intentions ,appeasing certain groups and worrying about revenues helps no one.

Just try to read some about moose -it is is proven that the moose population can be wiped out from a certain area,and they will re populate the same area EXTREMELY slow.See proof for this is-what happened in Chapleau Game reserve.Just recently.

It is also proven that shooting only bulls will also wipe out the moose population(or decrease it significantly)because : no cow can be bread by dead bulls-is in it?Bull moose covers large areas and they court cows for few days......so there could be several cows for 1 bull,what are the chances of them being bred.
Harvesting cows in not necessarily a bad thing-if controlled RIGHT.
See Quebec Moose regulation status/hunt success rates AND numbers harvested. Each year.They are Light year ahead in this,and they KNOW what needs to be done.

I am giving here cases and examples,not just saying something.............no offence.

Calf hunting should be totally banned.Period.

We should ALL keep in mind-Moose is not a whitetail.

True hope would be a 3-5 year total ban,FOR ALL,incentive on bear and wolf,and stop this caribou nonsense.

[kk1]

Total BS, no matter how many the natives shoot there are still non-natives hunting. If the non-natives are not taking animals then those animals are more likely to live than they would if they are in the freezer of non-natives.

Yes there needs to be regulations for native hunts but start with what you can control and that is NOT SHOOTING COWS AND CALVES!!!!!!!!

Lol. You must have no idea how many moose are taken at almost anytime of the year by them. Many have given up on the hunt completely due to tag availability, lack of moose, etc.. Cows need to be harvested for balance in any herd.

When one side is heavy regulated and the other is not, how can managing the numbers even be possible?? Its a losing battle. Numbers prove that.

[Fenelon]

I’ve hunted moose in the NW for 40 yrs or so. You cannot convince me the population has been destroyed. We’ve seen more moose in the past few years than we ever have.
Guys that work in the bush say the same thing. Outfitters I know say the population is down a bit, but nowhere near the lack of moose the MNRF would have us believe. A butcher I know of, had his coolers completely full the opening weekend. The vast majority were untagged.......

These comments are completely the opposite of what I heard from two of my friends that are full time commercial bush pilots out of Nakina and Thunder Bay. Between the two of them, they pretty much fly all of the wmu's in north, NE, amd NW Ontario, on a daily basis. Both report that their daily aerial sightings of moose are more than 70% down from 8-10 years ago. Some areas that were formerly the highest densities (eg. around T. Bay) are more than 90% down. Areas around Gogama and Timmins, Long Lac, etc are almost devoid of moose now according to them. They also both own their own planes on floats, and they even report that they're having some tough hunts and have even been unable to fill their own personal tags in the past couple of years, even after flying into remote areas.Pretty bad when you have your own float plane and can't find a moose to put in the freezer!

[alfoldivandor]

In my opinion we should not stop hunting ...
We should start the technic as the " fishermen catch and release"
We should go camping on crown land , take a big hikes in the wilderness ,
get some pictures of Moose and shoot some Bear Wolf,
drink some beer in the camp , have a good time and come home .
The mane goal for the group is not to shoot a Moose




[QUOTE=gbk;1095294]

So, in my humble opinion, they should just completely STOP the moose hunt for 3 years.

If we really want to help the population and give the MNRF a chance to get their act together and perhaps consult some actual hunters(!), and come up with a logical moose hunting system, then I will gladly put moose out of my mind for 3 years. Why is that so hard to do?!



This-as he said-for EVERYONE!