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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    It makes total sense,though.
    Not really. That section deals with fur bearing mammals as defined in the Act. As Woodsman posted, deer are not fur bearing mammals as defined. It means, wolves, coyotes, etc.....deer are in the game mammal category.
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    The reqs: Para 2 : Spoiled flesh

    (2) A person who possesses game wildlife that is not a furbearing mammal and that was hunted or trapped shall not permit its flesh to become unsuitable for human consumption. 2009, c. 33, Sched. 22, s. 2 (18).
    White Tail deer are listed as 'Game Mammals'...see schedule 2:

    Schedule 2
    GAME MAMMALS

    Common Name

    Bear, Black
    Caribou, Woodland
    Cottontail
    Deer, White-tailed
    Elk, American (Wapiti)
    Hare, European
    Hare, Varying (Snowshoe)
    Moose
    Squirrel, Gray (Black)
    Squirrel, Fox

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikePal View Post
    The reqs: Para 2 : Spoiled flesh



    White Tail deer are listed as 'Game Mammals'...see schedule 2:

    Schedule 2
    GAME MAMMALS

    Common Name

    Bear, Black
    Caribou, Woodland
    Cottontail
    Deer, White-tailed
    Elk, American (Wapiti)
    Hare, European
    Hare, Varying (Snowshoe)
    Moose
    Squirrel, Gray (Black)
    Squirrel, Fox
    Yes, they are game mammals....as such, the spoilage section applies. It does not apply to fur bearing mammals. If it did, we would have to eat our coyotes, and any other critter normally trapped...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick_iles View Post
    Yes, they are game mammals....as such, the spoilage section applies. It does not apply to fur bearing mammals. If it did, we would have to eat our coyotes, and any other critter normally trapped...
    Yes, but that is applicable to Hunter or Trappers....butchers are neither (for the most part)

    36 (1) A hunter or trapper who kills game wildlife other than a furbearing mammal shall not abandon it if its flesh may become unsuitable for human consumption. 2009, c. 33, Sched. 22, s. 2 (18).

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    OK ..now I get it....on reflection, I'm less confused.... sec 2...would be applicable for a 'person'.....ie not a hunter or trapper.

    This exert for the Farm Permit program would suggest that Non hunters and Trappers are permitted but discouraged from letting a deer spoil.

    Carcass disposal

    Carcasses may be kept by the owner or agent, or donated to others. Sections of the Fish and WildlifeConservation Act that prohibit the wastage and spoiling of deer flesh do not apply to removal authorizations [by virtue of S131 of Reg 665/98, S 31(6) of the FWCA exempts persons from sections 36(1) and (2)]. However it is recommended that all attempts be made to utilize any deer for human consumption. It is illegal to sell the carcass, or any part of it.
    134. A hunter who is licensed or authorized to kill a furbearing mammal is exempt from subsection 36 (3) of the Act and may abandon a pelt or permit a pelt to be spoiled or destroyed if the pelt is of no commercial value. O. Reg. 665/98, s. 134.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikePal View Post
    OK ..now I get it....on reflection, I'm less confused.... sec 2...would be applicable for a 'person'.....ie not a hunter or trapper.

    This exert for the Farm Permit program would suggest that Non hunters and Trappers are permitted but discouraged from letting a deer spoil.
    Yes, now you got it !! Lol
    At one time, it still may be the case, migratory birds killed authorized by Permits, had to be left to rot. Now that doesn’t make sense to me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick_iles View Post
    Not really. That section deals with fur bearing mammals as defined in the Act. As Woodsman posted, deer are not fur bearing mammals as defined. It means, wolves, coyotes, etc.....deer are in the game mammal category.
    That's true we don't have to eat fur bearers meat,but, pelt spoilage is regulated by Sect 36(3). They key word in that section is "viable". To me,that means marketable which is not when infected by Mange or is damaged from shot pellets or bullets.
    Last edited by trimmer21; December 16th, 2019 at 07:31 PM.
    If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....

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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    That's true we don't have to eat fur bearers meat,but, pelt spoilage is regulated by Sect 36(3). They key word in that section is "viable". To me,that means marketable which is not when infected by Mange or is damaged from shot pellets or bullets.
    The key words are “ fur bearing mammals”....

    Only fur bearing mammals have pelts......game mammals have hides.......
    Last edited by rick_iles; December 16th, 2019 at 08:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    They key word in that section is "viable". To me,that means marketable which is not when infected by Mange or is damaged from shot pellets or bullets.
    Seeing that the collapse of the fur industry in Canada is eminent and the value of the pelts/hides that are sold are so low, nothing much is 'viable' in the market place anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikePal View Post
    Seeing that the collapse of the fur industry in Canada is eminent and the value of the pelts/hides that are sold are so low, nothing much is 'viable' in the market place anymore.
    We have a trapper take our coyotes. I was surprised that he got over 100.00 for a few of the pelts. Hopefully the same holds true this winter...

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