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December 16th, 2019, 03:27 PM
#11

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
It makes total sense,though.
Not really. That section deals with fur bearing mammals as defined in the Act. As Woodsman posted, deer are not fur bearing mammals as defined. It means, wolves, coyotes, etc.....deer are in the game mammal category.
Last edited by rick_iles; December 16th, 2019 at 03:31 PM.
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December 16th, 2019 03:27 PM
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December 16th, 2019, 03:31 PM
#12
The reqs: Para 2 : Spoiled flesh
(2) A person who possesses
game wildlife that is not a furbearing mammal and that was hunted or trapped shall not permit its flesh to become unsuitable for human consumption. 2009, c. 33, Sched. 22, s. 2 (18).
White Tail deer are listed as 'Game Mammals'...see schedule 2:
Schedule 2
GAME MAMMALS
Common Name
Bear, Black
Caribou, Woodland
Cottontail
Deer, White-tailed
Elk, American (Wapiti)
Hare, European
Hare, Varying (Snowshoe)
Moose
Squirrel, Gray (Black)
Squirrel, Fox
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December 16th, 2019, 03:36 PM
#13

Originally Posted by
MikePal
The reqs: Para 2 : Spoiled flesh
White Tail deer are listed as 'Game Mammals'...see schedule 2:
Schedule 2
GAME MAMMALS
Common Name
Bear, Black
Caribou, Woodland
Cottontail
Deer, White-tailed
Elk, American (Wapiti)
Hare, European
Hare, Varying (Snowshoe)
Moose
Squirrel, Gray (Black)
Squirrel, Fox
Yes, they are game mammals....as such, the spoilage section applies. It does not apply to fur bearing mammals. If it did, we would have to eat our coyotes, and any other critter normally trapped...
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December 16th, 2019, 03:44 PM
#14

Originally Posted by
rick_iles
Yes, they are game mammals....as such, the spoilage section applies. It does not apply to fur bearing mammals. If it did, we would have to eat our coyotes, and any other critter normally trapped...
Yes, but that is applicable to Hunter or Trappers....butchers are neither (for the most part)
36 (1)
A hunter or trapper who kills game wildlife other than a furbearing mammal shall not abandon it if its flesh may become unsuitable for human consumption. 2009, c. 33, Sched. 22, s. 2 (18).
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December 16th, 2019, 03:48 PM
#15
OK ..now I get it....on reflection, I'm less confused.... sec 2...would be applicable for a 'person'.....ie not a hunter or trapper.
This exert for the Farm Permit program would suggest that Non hunters and Trappers are permitted but discouraged from letting a deer spoil.
Carcass disposal
Carcasses may be kept by the owner or agent, or donated to others. Sections of the Fish and WildlifeConservation Act that prohibit the wastage and spoiling of deer flesh do not apply to removal authorizations [by virtue of S131 of Reg 665/98, S 31(6) of the FWCA exempts persons from sections 36(1) and (2)]. However it is recommended that all attempts be made to utilize any deer for human consumption. It is illegal to sell the carcass, or any part of it.
134. A hunter who is licensed or authorized to kill a furbearing mammal is exempt from subsection 36 (3) of the Act and may abandon a pelt or permit a pelt to be spoiled or destroyed if the pelt is of no commercial value. O. Reg. 665/98, s. 134.
Last edited by MikePal; December 16th, 2019 at 04:01 PM.
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December 16th, 2019, 03:57 PM
#16

Originally Posted by
MikePal
OK ..now I get it....on reflection, I'm less confused.... sec 2...would be applicable for a 'person'.....ie not a hunter or trapper.
This exert for the Farm Permit program would suggest that Non hunters and Trappers are permitted but discouraged from letting a deer spoil.
Yes, now you got it !! Lol
At one time, it still may be the case, migratory birds killed authorized by Permits, had to be left to rot. Now that doesn’t make sense to me...
Last edited by rick_iles; December 16th, 2019 at 04:00 PM.
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December 16th, 2019, 07:29 PM
#17

Originally Posted by
rick_iles
Not really. That section deals with fur bearing mammals as defined in the Act. As Woodsman posted, deer are not fur bearing mammals as defined. It means, wolves, coyotes, etc.....deer are in the game mammal category.
That's true we don't have to eat fur bearers meat,but, pelt spoilage is regulated by Sect 36(3). They key word in that section is "viable". To me,that means marketable which is not when infected by Mange or is damaged from shot pellets or bullets.
Last edited by trimmer21; December 16th, 2019 at 07:31 PM.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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December 16th, 2019, 08:38 PM
#18

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
That's true we don't have to eat fur bearers meat,but, pelt spoilage is regulated by Sect 36(3). They key word in that section is "viable". To me,that means marketable which is not when infected by Mange or is damaged from shot pellets or bullets.
The key words are “ fur bearing mammals”....
Only fur bearing mammals have pelts......game mammals have hides.......
Last edited by rick_iles; December 16th, 2019 at 08:41 PM.
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December 17th, 2019, 06:14 AM
#19

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
They key word in that section is "viable". To me,that means marketable which is not when infected by Mange or is damaged from shot pellets or bullets.
Seeing that the collapse of the fur industry in Canada is eminent and the value of the pelts/hides that are sold are so low, nothing much is 'viable' in the market place anymore.
Last edited by MikePal; December 17th, 2019 at 06:35 AM.
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December 17th, 2019, 06:52 AM
#20

Originally Posted by
MikePal
Seeing that the collapse of the fur industry in Canada is eminent and the value of the pelts/hides that are sold are so low, nothing much is 'viable' in the market place anymore.
We have a trapper take our coyotes. I was surprised that he got over 100.00 for a few of the pelts. Hopefully the same holds true this winter...