Third Party Wild Game Spoilage - Legality

[MikePal]

They don't think the NAFA will be in business in Mar 2020...so only a few places left where they can sell furs...one is in Thompson.

Some of the prices from the Thompson fur table last year:

The average trapper made about $2,000....(before the commission was taken out). Take out operational costs and the $2 K dwindles quickly.....not a viable living.

Last year, almost 6,000 pelts with an estimated value of about $307,000 changed hands at the tables, which were attended by 161 trappers. The average number of pelts per trapper was 37 and the average value per trapper was about $1,910.

Marten accounted for about 80 per cent of all the pelts exchanged, either for cash or for money to be paid later, minus a commission, when the furs are sold to global buyers. The average price for a marten pelt was $58 and 4,765 were brought in, for a total value of about $276,000. About 6.5 per cent of the pelts were mink, which sold for an average value of $10. About 3.5 per cent were muskrat, with an average value of $2 each. The only other type of pelt accounting from more than two per cent of the total sales was lynx at about 2.4 per cent and with an average value of $70 per pelt. Beaver, otter and red fox made up between one and 1.5 per cent of the pelts sold. Beaver went for $15 on average, red fox for $20 and otter for $30.

[jaycee]

Fur Harvesters Auction [formerly Ontario Trappers Association] in North Bay is still going strong , and according to news outlets , will be the only Auction House dealing exclusively in wild furs.

[Snowwalker]

That's true we don't have to eat fur bearers meat,but, pelt spoilage is regulated by Sect 36(3). They key word in that section is "viable". To me,that means marketable which is not when infected by Mange or is damaged from shot pellets or bullets.

Sorry you can NOT throw away an other wise good pelt simply for having a bullet or pellet holes. Learn to sew.

[brent]

Yes, now you got it !! Lol
At one time, it still may be the case, migratory birds killed authorized by Permits, had to be left to rot. Now that doesn’t make sense to me...

Any migratory birds can be left to rot, once they are retrieved, unfortunately.

[Snowwalker]

Any migratory birds can be left to rot, once they are retrieved, unfortunately.

You better have the info ready. Your going to get it now..

[jaycee]

You better have the info ready. Your going to get it now..

He is right, it's been discussed on here before, same as a nuisance bird kill permit, you shoot them/kill but by law you have to leave them lay where they are.
Doesn't say that someone else cannot pick them up.

[redd foxx]

They're talking about changing the law re: wasting Migratory birds but I don't think it has gone through yet

[Snowwalker]

He is right, it's been discussed on here before, same as a nuisance bird kill permit, you shoot them/kill but by law you have to leave them lay where they are.
Doesn't say that someone else cannot pick them up.

As you say in the case of a nuisance permit, yes you can allow the flesh to rot. A permit does not allow you to take the meat. It's likely to prevent some from getting permits just for a few OUT of season geese breast or something.

His statement that "any Migratory birds" can be allowed to spoil once they are retrieved is not correct.

As for permits and having to leave them were they lay, I think you should at least move them out of sight. You don't want to make the local papers.

[Snowwalker]

They're talking about changing the law re: wasting Migratory birds but I don't think it has gone through yet

You may be thinking of the exception for Cormorants. ***edited***

I just saw that Bill 138 received Royal Asset on December 10th 2019.

Gentlemen I believe we have A CORMORANT season.

Anyone know if we can shoot the ones in Hamilton Harbor? The company trucks have hit/been hit by three in the last four years.

[rick_iles]

As you say in the case of a nuisance permit, yes you can allow the flesh to rot. A permit does not allow you to take the meat. It's likely to prevent some from getting permits just for a few OUT of season geese breast or something.

His statement that "any Migratory birds" can be allowed to spoil once they are retrieved is not correct.

As for permits and having to leave them were they lay, I think you should at least move them out of sight. You don't want to make the local papers.

Brent is correct, as it stands now. There are changes to the MBCA that would make it an offence, but I don’t think those have passed yet.