Third Party Wild Game Spoilage - Legality

[sabmgb]

that list has 3 that I didn't know were fur bearing, red squirrel, skunk, and opossum. Could just imaging how many red squirrels it would take to make a coat.

[MikePal]

that list has 3 that I didn't know were fur bearing, red squirrel, skunk, and opossum. Could just imaging how many red squirrels it would take to make a coat.

Were popular back in the day for trim on cuffs, collars and hoods...can't see they are a big seller now.

Need clarification if anyone can help.......that FWCA list Red Squirrels....but the hunting regs control hunting controls 'Fox' Squirrels (which aren't on the FWCA list)....which I don't think are the same beasty.

[FishHog]

red squirrels are "Pine Squirrels". Fox, and grey squirrels are not listed as fur bearers.
I don't think there is much of a market for pine squirrels any longers, but they are still off limits for hunting in Ontario. Not that there is much to eat on them.

[werner.reiche]

Were popular back in the day for trim on cuffs, collars and hoods...can't see they are a big seller now.

Need clarification if anyone can help.......that FWCA list Red Squirrels....but the hunting regs control hunting controls 'Fox' Squirrels (which aren't on the FWCA list)....which I don't think are the same beasty.

No they're not. Fox squirrels are big squirrels like a grey squirrel. We have grey/black around here, but I don't think there are fox. Maybe in southern Ontario.
Red squirrel tails used to be used quite a bit in fishing lures. I can remember Mepps advertising for them - I think it was a buck apiece for them.
I can't every remember squirrel used in clothing - but before the days of synthetics, I wouldn't be surprised.

[jaycee]

Brent is correct, as it stands now. There are changes to the MBCA that would make it an offence, but I don’t think those have passed yet.

As has been said, he is correct, the law only states that you must make very effort to retrieve your shot waterfowl, but what you do with it after is up to you presently.

[duckslayer]

You better have the info ready. Your going to get it now..

I think it is you who needs to show the info backing up your statements............like stated it has been discussed on here at length. i personally hope it does change with the new possession laws but as of right now there is nothing to stop someone from letting them rot after they have retrieved them.

[MikePal]

I don't think there is much of a market for pine squirrels any longers, but they are still off limits for hunting in Ontario.

Is there a ref that says 'red' squirrels are restricted ?

I don't see it in the 'Hunting Regs' other than as a furbearing it's not allowed to be hunting in Provincial Parks and Crown Game farms...

The FWCA does have them on their protected list:

SPECIALLY PROTECTED MAMMALS

Common Name
Bat, Big Brown
Bat, Eastern Pipistrelle
Bat, Hoary
Bat, Little Brown
Bat, Northern Long-eared
Bat, Red
Bat, Silver-haired
Bat, Small-footed
Chipmunk, Eastern
Chipmunk, Least
Flying Squirrel, Northern
Flying Squirrel, Southern
Shrew, Arctic
Shrew, Least
Shrew, Masked
Shrew, Northern Short-tailed
Shrew, Pygmy
Shrew, Smoky
Shrew, Water

[MikePal]

I think I found it....becasue the Hunting regs don't list 'Red Squirrels', there is no exception under para 6(1). But they aren't on the FWCA protected list. Seems odd.

Requirement for hunting or trapping license

6 (1) Except under the authority of a licence and in accordance with the regulations, a person shall not hunt or trap,

(a) big game;

(b) a game mammal that is not referred to in clause (a);

(c) a game bird;

(d) a furbearing mammal;

(e) a game reptile;

(f) a game amphibian;

(g) a bird referred to in subsection 5 (2); or

(h) wildlife that is not referred to in clauses (a) to (g), the hunting of which is not prohibited by section 5. 1997, c. 41, s. 6 (1); 2009, c. 33, Sched. 22, s. 2 (7).

[FishHog]

I think that is it Mike. They aren't "restricted or protected", but they are classed as fur bearing and there is no open hunting season for them. Licenced trappers can take them, but I can't see them being worth the effort.

now the one that chewed a hole through the side of my cottage had an unfortunate accident, but I wasn't hunting.

[trimmer21]

Sorry you can NOT throw away an other wise good pelt simply for having a bullet or pellet holes. Learn to sew.

Nonsense! Define "otherwise good pelt" that's not all shot to shyte or has holes in it big enough to drive a truck through. There isn't enough thread.