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January 31st, 2020, 09:40 AM
#101

Originally Posted by
punkrockerpj
i'm always curious about the restriction on the farmer's right to defend property. say my neighbour who doesnt hunt, he's allowed to shoot nuisance coyotes. no one will bat an eye or ask what kind of rifle he used. not advocating for being the mushroom eater when yogi bear writes a citation... just thinking out loud...
There is not a restriction on what they use, and they do not have to use the SSS either. Protection of property is not hunting, the restriction is only on hunting. If you have a discharge law though in your area then that would still come in to play.
Now, if you are back in the bush on your farm with a 3006 and claiming that you are protecting property then you will probably have some explaining to do, in your barnyard shooting a pig with a 3006 that is trying to break in or eating all your feed then I do not think you will have a problem justifying it.
They may not be hard to kill but they have a thick hide and a lot of fat.
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January 31st, 2020 09:40 AM
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January 31st, 2020, 10:00 AM
#102
I do believe that shooting them is sanctioned by the MNR due to the fact they are an invasive species. I know MB DNR has a shoot on sight policy in regards to them...no restrictions.
What You Can Do
Report the escape, release or sighting of a wild pig to MNRF through:
the iNaturalist web page (note: you will be required to set up a free online account)
[email protected]
If directed by MNRF, exterminate a wild pig on the landscape under your small game licence (you must abide by any relevant federal, provincial, municipal laws regarding trespass, discharge of firearms bylaws and firearms licencing requirements) While the MNRF may direct hunters to kill individual wild pigs, hunting is not an effective tool for eradicating wild pig populations. It can actually make the problem worse by educating and scattering any surviving pigs, making future control efforts much more challenging.
Visit the MNRF wild pigs web page for more details
Bit of a conflict of info in regards to Property..no need to notify the MNR:
The law
You don’t need a permit to scare away, capture or kill most wild animals, if the animal is causing damage to your property.
Rules for removing animals
You or your agent must:
abide by all municipal by-laws and other applicable laws
not harass, capture or kill more wildlife than is necessary to protect your property
deal humanely with wildlife that is killed, captured or harassed
restrict activity to your property
not destroy the den of a furbearing mammal or a black bear without approval from MNRF. Requirement for approval does not apply to fox or skunk dens
release captured live wildlife within 24 hours
release captured live wildlife within 1 kilometre of where they were captured
release wildlife on private property only with the landowner’s permission
Last edited by MikePal; January 31st, 2020 at 10:10 AM.
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January 31st, 2020, 10:12 AM
#103
Wild pigs have no protection under the FWCA. They are similar to ground hogs in that they are not a game or furbearing mammal. Therefore only a small game license is necessary for hunting them. The meat and hide do not need to be used.
When protecting your property, no small game license is required.
Escaped domestic pigs are someone's personal property. From a legal perspective, they are no different than shooting your neighbour's dog. There is no provincial statute preventing you from shooting it, but your neighbour could sue you for destroying their personal property.
How do you know the difference between a wild pig and an escaped domestic pig? You could ask it nicely, or just SSS. The likelihood of getting sued over killing an escaped pig is much lower than getting sued over a family pet, but you should know what you're getting into.
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January 31st, 2020, 11:18 AM
#104

Originally Posted by
benjhind
Wild pigs have no protection under the FWCA. They are similar to ground hogs in that they are not a game or furbearing mammal. Therefore only a small game license is necessary for hunting them. The meat and hide do not need to be used.
When protecting your property, no small game license is required.
Escaped domestic pigs are someone's personal property. From a legal perspective, they are no different than shooting your neighbour's dog. There is no provincial statute preventing you from shooting it, but your neighbour could sue you for destroying their personal property.
How do you know the difference between a wild pig and an escaped domestic pig? You could ask it nicely, or just SSS. The likelihood of getting sued over killing an escaped pig is much lower than getting sued over a family pet, but you should know what you're getting into.
Most farmers who keep hogs will not want the pig back due to biosecurity reasons. the small time farmer might appreciate it but as a small time hog farmer myself, i know how difficult it would be to wrangle the animal into a trailer. I personally would rather it shot and we can worry about what to do with it after. I would be immensely thankful if someone shot one of my escaped pigs.
helpful hint for those without AG background... if it has an ear tag (see pigtrace), it's an escapee of a hog intended for slaughter or commercial means. no ear tag usually means descendant of escapee. My worst nightmare is having to pay for damages that my escaped pig costs.
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January 31st, 2020, 11:24 AM
#105

Originally Posted by
punkrockerpj
Most farmers who keep hogs will not want the pig back due to biosecurity reasons. the small time farmer might appreciate it but as a small time hog farmer myself, i know how difficult it would be to wrangle the animal into a trailer. I personally would rather it shot and we can worry about what to do with it after. I would be immensely thankful if someone shot one of my escaped pigs.
helpful hint for those without AG background... if it has an ear tag (see pigtrace), it's an escapee of a hog intended for slaughter or commercial means. no ear tag usually means descendant of escapee. My worst nightmare is having to pay for damages that my escaped pig costs.
Certainly no arguments there, but I have neighbours who have their free-range organic grass fed pastured blablabla pigs and I wouldn't want to be caught shooting one. And no, they aren't ear tagged.
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January 31st, 2020, 12:23 PM
#106

Originally Posted by
benjhind
Certainly no arguments there, but I have neighbours who have their free-range organic grass fed pastured blablabla pigs and I wouldn't want to be caught shooting one. And no, they aren't ear tagged.
He better not have them get out.
There was a slaughterhouse not far from me, a full adult Boer goat got out, once it left the property they could not say that it was safe anymore so they could not bring it back, some guy went and shot it and had some delicious meat.
If they are not ear tagged then there is no obvious marking that shows they are domestic, good luck suing because a neighbour shot one.
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January 31st, 2020, 02:14 PM
#107
To answer the Question posed by the thread title..
"When is Ontario going to have a full out hog season?"
I would have to say, it's already open.
Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.
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January 31st, 2020, 03:35 PM
#108

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
I think you guys are a tad late on the trigger. Hogs can already be hunted in Ontario with a small game license under small game regulations. They're the same as varmint/predator....open all year. So far,the only hogs we're seeing are farm escapees that can be shot on sight if found running free outside the farm. Wild Boars aren't (as yet) found here,officially,although,there's been some unsubstantiated sightings.

Originally Posted by
Snowwalker
To answer the Question posed by the thread title..
"When is Ontario going to have a full out hog season?"
I would have to say, it's already open.
ROFL!! Damn,there's one hell of an echo in here.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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January 31st, 2020, 04:34 PM
#109
Here is link to summary of hog eradication challenges in Texas. It also has link to the full article in Sports Illustrated. Helicopter shooting of hogs is big business in TX but is barely making a dent in the million-plus population.
https://www.businessinsider.com/wild...-report-2020-1
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February 1st, 2020, 12:32 AM
#110
Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.