New 27 Nosler Revives the .277

[Fox]

That's exactly my point, marketing and advertising does not make something great. It can be used to make people believe there buying into something that's better then it actually is. The 6.5cm being a great example, it does nothing better then a 260. I still have a hard time hearing a 270 kicks to hard.

You may find it difficult to believe but we have pointed out on numerous occasions that the 270 kicks around the same amount of the 30-06, which is a lot of recoil for many hunters out there, hence one of the reasons why the 308 has become so popular, it has a noticeable decrease in recoil.

The 6.5CM is just being pushed right now, what happens in 5 years is yet to be determined. It is possible but not likely that the 270 Win dies in 5 years, less likely that the 30-06 and 308 die in that time frame, more likely that the 303 Brit becomes obsolete in that time frame, due to a lack of new firearms chambered in that cartridge.

[canadaman30]

You may find it difficult to believe but we have pointed out on numerous occasions that the 270 kicks around the same amount of the 30-06, which is a lot of recoil for many hunters out there, hence one of the reasons why the 308 has become so popular, it has a noticeable decrease in recoil.

The 6.5CM is just being pushed right now, what happens in 5 years is yet to be determined. It is possible but not likely that the 270 Win dies in 5 years, less likely that the 30-06 and 308 die in that time frame, more likely that the 303 Brit becomes obsolete in that time frame, due to a lack of new firearms chambered in that cartridge.

The 270 and the 308 recoil are identical, the 30-06 has slightly more. The reason the 308 took off is because of military use, just like the 30-06 before it. The 223 is the same. It will take alot longer then 5 years for the 270 to die....lol

[MikePal]

Marketing seem to be favouring the 7mm-08 and the 6.5 CM for the time being...all pretty much the same as the .270.

As far as I can see no difference to a sub 200 yd deer hunter...but for long range shooting there are slight differences.

Good article on the 7mm-08 vs .270...

https://ronspomeroutdoors.com/blog/2...emington-race/

[Fox]

The 270 and the 308 recoil are identical, the 30-06 has slightly more. The reason the 308 took off is because of military use, just like the 30-06 before it. The 223 is the same. It will take alot longer then 5 years for the 270 to die....lol

The 308 has less recoil energy than both the 30-06 and the 270 Win with the same bullet weight, I do not know why we have to keep going down this, here is the chart once more.

https://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm

[canadaman30]

The 308 has less recoil energy than both the 30-06 and the 270 Win with the same bullet weight, I do not know why we have to keep going down this, here is the chart once more.

https://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm

Yes the 308 and 270 virtually indentical..

[gbk]

I start to think the advertisements and the new cartridges do nothing else then the new Windows 8-Windows 10 etc, or the new I phones do-try to make better sales.
With so many 270,308,30-06 etc out there,how to make the users buy more guns????(more sales for the gun/ammo makers).

Put a new caliber out,people will rather buy one they do not have ,then another of the same they have,,,,,,,,,,,,clever.

And if the new one kills some old ones along the way....so much the better(for them).
End users will see not much of real benefits.

[Snowwalker]

The 308 has less recoil energy than both the 30-06 and the 270 Win with the same bullet weight, I do not know why we have to keep going down this, here is the chart once more.

https://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm

Because you jump and scream when anyone one say "270".
It is a world wide plot to drive you ..

Seriously why do hunters and shooters go over the same things forever? Because we like to talk about EVERYTHING hunting and shooting related.

[Fox]

Because you jump and scream when anyone one say "270".
It is a world wide plot to drive you ..

Ha ha ha ha

I wish I could sit down with you and explain my justification for my hatred of the 270, and it does not have anything to do with its effectiveness, except that it blows the living piss out of a deer at too close a range, much like any high velocity rounds, as a longer range cartridge it works great but I will never buy one :P

[MikePal]

Interesting charts at link..the top selling 91 cartridges in the US..

http://knowledgeglue.com/what-are-th...ers-in-the-us/

[Fox]

Interesting charts at link..the top selling 91 cartridges in the US..

http://knowledgeglue.com/what-are-th...ers-in-the-us/

Well look at that, 30-30 above the 270 Win , ha ha ha ha.

I see an issue with that chart though, they have 12ga twice and 22 mag twice.