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October 30th, 2020, 06:04 PM
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The Great Gas Rip-Off
Have to get the boat winterized this weekend, so I headed to Shell after work for some ethanol-free gas to run through it.
i filled a 20L jerry can (the tall Jeep style) and the pump said 20.10 litres....but when the gas settled inside it was below the 20L mark by at least 1-1/4”, maybe 1-1/2”....that’s about 10% short !
just picture how many litres are sold over a day or week and how much additional revenue it is ! Not picking on Shell, I had a similar problem with PetroCanada last winter. Most people filling cars and trucks have no way to check what they’re actually getting.
not a huge deal for a jerry can to be a bit short, but for most of us that fill up trucks at $80 or $100 a tank....that’s an awful lot of gas to be paying for and not receiving
i dragged the owner out and showed him, but he had a million excuses and I didn’t bother really getting into it with him
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October 30th, 2020 06:04 PM
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October 30th, 2020, 06:23 PM
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Without using a proper verified liquid measure, not much one can say.
Poly cans are not built to a reliable spec, not to mention poly cans stretch significantly. I have a 25 liter can that will easily hold 30 liters due to the years of sitting in the sun with the vent shut.
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October 30th, 2020, 06:23 PM
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There should be a calibration sticker on the front of the pump with a date on it and it usually states its corrected to 10*C so really, you should be getting more than you paid for at lower temps.
The other funny thing with premium, when I fill my motorcycle it only takes between 5 and 10 litres most of the time, how much regular gas is contained in the hose that I'm paying premium price for before its purged by the premium fuel?
Just another thing to chip away at your bank account!
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October 30th, 2020, 08:36 PM
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i use to work at a gas station,
MY THEORY
is the pumps do not actually measure how many Liters are dished out rather than how long your hand is holding the pump open letting gas flow.
its more of a estimate of how many liters are filled.
trust me i worked there for 4 years and ive heard everything under the sun and seen some crazy shet too
little tip, if you pre pay or pay at the pump for a designated amount and fill it all, hold the nozzle open and grab the hose to angle the rest of the gas down, theres still gas in the hose thats yours.
1 more apparently not alot of people know, when the nozzle clicks telling you your tank is full its actually not, its a safety feature, once theres enough gas with the nozzle all the way in your car itll stop because theres no air left, if you take the nozzle out of the car half way and pump again you will be able to fit more. PLEASE PAY ATTENTION ive seen so many things that almost lead to people blowing everything up
a little story, my manager was training a new guy int he morning, 8am, theyre going through the cash register normal stuff, all of a sudden, a car drives inbetween the gas pumps and crashes through the store. LITERALLY. through the windows destroyed tghe whole inside of the store. luckily no pumps or people were hit and no one was in the store. (i was working that night and got the night off so that's a plus)
another time a drunk dude rolled into the parking lot at 10pm, does a full doughnut backwards into the pumps destroyed his whole back end. he came into the store went to the backroom (i already called the cops)
cops were waiting for him outside the washroom and dragged him out on his .
i can go on and on ahha sorry brought up some memories
Last edited by Bowjob; October 30th, 2020 at 08:41 PM.
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October 31st, 2020, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by
Bowjob
little tip, if you pre pay or pay at the pump for a designated amount and fill it all, hold the nozzle open and grab the hose to angle the rest of the gas down, theres still gas in the hose thats yours.
Had a guy rant at me once about not getting his $0.5 worth of gas that was still in the hose...it was a big deal for him. I was just starting to fill up my truck so I said to him.."it's nice when the 1st $0.5 is free so I leave $0.5 for the next guy." He just stood there, I think I blew his mind. HaHa..
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October 31st, 2020, 07:09 AM
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Okay I thought this was going to be about how every gas station has the exact same factors that cause it to set the exact same price.
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October 31st, 2020, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by
Saskfly
Okay I thought this was going to be about how every gas station has the exact same factors that cause it to set the exact same price.
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that all comes from the head office of whatever company owns the station usually they have to be competitive to all stations around them, around 2-5 cent difference MAX and they only go by the 4 or 5 closest gas stations.
i cant remember the exact law for it i believe its called fair competition or something like that.
1 other thing that came to mind, dont buy gas in the middle of the night if you dont have to, they usually raise the prices middle of the night for all the truckers that come in and dont have a choice but to fill their tanks the price will chnage again at about 5am to the regular day time price
Last edited by Bowjob; October 31st, 2020 at 08:26 AM.
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November 1st, 2020, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by
Bowjob
that all comes from the head office of whatever company owns the station usually they have to be competitive to all stations around them, around 2-5 cent difference MAX and they only go by the 4 or 5 closest gas stations.
i cant remember the exact law for it i believe its called fair competition or something like that.
1 other thing that came to mind, dont buy gas in the middle of the night if you dont have to, they usually raise the prices middle of the night for all the truckers that come in and dont have a choice but to fill their tanks the price will chnage again at about 5am to the regular day time price
Trucker don't buy gas.....not if they want the engine to keep working..
Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.
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November 1st, 2020, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by
73hunter
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not a huge deal for a jerry can to be a bit short, but for most of us that fill up trucks at $80 or $100 a tank....that’s an awful lot of gas to be paying for and not receiving
Whole poop! I only spend $40 to 80 for gas in a month for my Tacoma. Mud tires, plate bumper, winch, lifted with beefed up suspension for extra weight capacity, headache rack, storage draws the bed and a pile of recovery gear.
Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.
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November 1st, 2020, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by
Snowwalker
Whole poop! I only spend $40 to 80 for gas in a month for my Tacoma. Mud tires, plate bumper, winch, lifted with beefed up suspension for extra weight capacity, headache rack, storage draws the bed and a pile of recovery gear.
Rub it in, why don't you!
I average 250km a day to work and back so that kind of spending isn't realistic for a week, let alone a month. My wallet is much happier now though. I scrapped my '15 2500hd Chevy and got me a new F-150, the gas savings make over half my monthly payment. At 110 on the highway I can average just under 12L/100, thats pushing 285 series BF's
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