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November 20th, 2020, 06:18 PM
#11

Originally Posted by
Deer Wrastler
You draw the line at not racing through a field to release the hounds IMO. Thats where I had an issue, not the killing part but driving through a field to catch up to the yote. Coyotes suck but is that the only way to protect your herd by running them down? Either way if thats accepted by the yote hunting community ok fine but dont post it online for others to judge and misinterpret.
Same reason we dont post gory pictures of our hunting and fishing experiences or at least ought not to IMO, its a bad look on those of us who preserve our image.
Should we not post this type of video as well? I mean you can see the cute animals getting shot.
https://youtu.be/UneMIa7Jiek
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November 20th, 2020 06:18 PM
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November 20th, 2020, 06:46 PM
#12

Originally Posted by
Snowwalker
Well some may not like it or agree that it is even hunting, there is no real evil or cruelty evolved. In nature members of one pack/pride/species attack and kill members of other packs/prides/species all the time.
Some use bait for deer/bears, some don't and some think it's evil. Where do you draw the line.
If we ban catch dogs, then the next is chase dogs, and then the hunt it's self.
The hunting regulations are based on good management practices, some safety practices and coming in last is rules against stupidity/cruelty.
I hear ya, I didn't say these dogs should be banned. I'd own one if I had the land to run it.
Its the truck bombing across the field wearing the coyote down then releasing the dogs to just finish it.
I understand the hunt, I just don't think posting this on the internet is doing our sport any good. Look how many hunters on "this" site dont agree with it.
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November 20th, 2020, 07:16 PM
#13

Originally Posted by
SongDog
I understand the hunt, I just don't think posting this on the internet is doing our sport any good. Look how many hunters on "this" site dont agree with it.
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I do not think it is anything more then pest control. There are NO States or Provinces where it is legal to chase an animal in a vehicle..But were they chasing the coyote or moving to get the catch dogs in front of the coyote being chased by other hounds.
Similar techniques are used to hunt pigs, with dogs chasing and hunters following on quads with dogs trained to attack and hold the pig for the hunters..
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November 21st, 2020, 04:21 PM
#14
I don't agree with partaking or posting this stuff. Its a good way to fuel the antis. Last I checked , using a motor vehicle to chase or harrass game is illegal.
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November 21st, 2020, 07:14 PM
#15

Originally Posted by
Goosechsr
I don't agree with partaking or posting this stuff. Its a good way to fuel the antis. Last I checked , using a motor vehicle to chase or harrass game is illegal.
Was he chasing the coyote or moving to get dogs in front?
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November 22nd, 2020, 07:39 AM
#16
Completely valid point, and without the full video there is no way of knowing. However the footage I see is only a truck/ side by side with nothing between the vehicle and the yote. Not fair chase in my books at all. If the dogs need a "lift" to get the upper hand, then something is seriously wrong here.
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November 22nd, 2020, 08:40 AM
#17

Originally Posted by
Goosechsr
Completely valid point, and without the full video there is no way of knowing. However the footage I see is only a truck/ side by side with nothing between the vehicle and the yote. Not fair chase in my books at all. If the dogs need a "lift" to get the upper hand, then something is seriously wrong here.
More video would be very helpful.
Thing is chase dogs( like greyhounds, Foxhounds, whipits, etc) are not good catch dogs, and good catch dogs are not good chase dogs.
They could be also be just putting fresh dogs out to continue the chase. Get the fresh dogs on the trail and bring the tired ones to hand.
Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.
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November 22nd, 2020, 09:06 AM
#18
Here a great idea! Let's put down this guys way of dealing with predators which may be costing him thousands! Lets put down his way of hunting so he can in turn put down our ways of doing things. Here's a good start to no baiting, no dog use, no decoys..... sheeeeit, can't call ducks, its not fair because they think other ducks are there!
If we want our heritage to continue, we need to support legal hunting. The antis can band together and pick us apart because we pick each other apart.
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November 22nd, 2020, 09:35 AM
#19

Originally Posted by
Snowwalker
More video would be very helpful.
Thing is chase dogs( like greyhounds, Foxhounds, whipits, etc) are not good catch dogs, and good catch dogs are not good chase dogs.
They could be also be just putting fresh dogs out to continue the chase. Get the fresh dogs on the trail and bring the tired ones to hand.
I don't know I think a catch dog can be a chase dog, depends on the breed.What do you think of this video,I can tell you this is an accurate video as I regularly run my Dogo most days 5-7 kms without it breaking a sweat and he is now 9 years old.Mind you I am running with him i'm not driving a pickup truck,they are capable of great bursts of speed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhOdn1X3Hqs
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November 22nd, 2020, 03:16 PM
#20
Has too much time on their hands
This is done to protect calfs and sheep.
Years ago they used poison.
These guys are not out looking for trophy
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