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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkB View Post
    I'm corresponding with someone who lives in Sweden right now. From what he tells me, it is a disaster ... hospitals are beyond capacity, they have now had to restrict gatherings ... Sweden is looking at Finland right now with envy.

    So, according to him, looking at Sweden as the gold star here is mind boggling ... we should rather be looking at what Finland is doing right.
    Well, even the guy himself said he got it wrong back in June, but I imagine he was under quite a bit of pressure back then, what with going against the grain and all...

    https://nationalpost.com/news/world/...57e62cc76/amp/


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    From Britain!

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    I been up in Barry's Bay and the locals look like that without a vaccine. ROFLMAO

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkB View Post
    I'm corresponding with someone who lives in Sweden right now. From what he tells me, it is a disaster ... hospitals are beyond capacity, they have now had to restrict gatherings ... Sweden is looking at Finland right now with envy.

    So, according to him, looking at Sweden as the gold star here is mind boggling ... we should rather be looking at what Finland is doing right.
    I wouldn't doubt he might say that Mark. There would be no shortage of people here that would say the same for us and we know that's no true.
    But hey, Finland got their death rate in the range of regular flu deaths. that's great for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    I been up in Barry's Bay and the locals look like that without a vaccine. ROFLMAO
    Hahahah, touche.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onelessarrow View Post
    I wouldn't doubt he might say that Mark. There would be no shortage of people here that would say the same for us and we know that's no true.
    But hey, Finland got their death rate in the range of regular flu deaths. that's great for them.
    Perhaps ... but apparently hospitals are way past capacity ... I don't think anyone is guessing that part.
    In any case ... really what I'm trying to say, if you want to erase all doubt ... look at Finland and what they did ... they are the better model to use in an argument.

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    On this site you should know , never let facts get in the way of a good diatribe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkB View Post
    Perhaps ... but apparently hospitals are way past capacity ... I don't think anyone is guessing that part.
    In any case ... really what I'm trying to say, if you want to erase all doubt ... look at Finland and what they did ... they are the better model to use in an argument.
    Perhaps, but i was only answering to the question of the Sweden comparison. The world's had 9 months to get their countries death rate to as low as possible. The results speak for themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikePal View Post
    I don't think you have a grasp on how vaccines work...
    No I don't I have never looked into a vaccine study.

    Just wanted to know how they got their 95 percent effective conclusion.

    So if it was just at random it has room for error to lower the effectiveness to say 80 percent or less

    Having a more of a controlled environment would show different numbers. Apparently covid is to harsh for a controlled test.

    Being random and people being cautious more then the others. Or if a thousand people didn't come into contact with the virus to properly test the vaccine . It will keep the percentage up like it has .

    Just saying we that we can't assume it's 95 percent effective as it was not a controlled study. Some experts have said that the 95 percent could go down to be less effective.

    Or do 95 percent of them still have antibodies and that's what they are seeing or only 5 percent of them caught the virus yet thousands didn't come into contact with it.


    Did they all were masks? Did only some ? Did other's stay home more than other's ?do some live in different environments or wash their hands more frequently or used sanitizer more than other's. Probably [emoji39]



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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkB View Post
    I'm corresponding with someone who lives in Sweden right now. From what he tells me, it is a disaster ... hospitals are beyond capacity, they have now had to restrict gatherings ... Sweden is looking at Finland right now with envy.

    So, according to him, looking at Sweden as the gold star here is mind boggling ... we should rather be looking at what Finland is doing right.
    I spent the summer on a ship in Brazil with a Swedish captain. He told me COVID wasn't a real issue at home. I imagine it's like the American election....it depends on who you talk to.
    Last edited by Jakezilla; December 11th, 2020 at 02:08 PM. Reason: Grammar
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