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December 12th, 2020, 01:25 PM
#131

Originally Posted by
canadaman30
Forcillo isn't laughing much anymore. What a disgrace to police.
For once we can agree and I can see today that there are many people in the policing profession that do not belong.
They do not belong because essentially they are cowards and they are scared. There is nothing worse IMHO than a scared police officer and if you don't have guts you simply should not be on the job.
I have witnesses hundred's on interactions on officers escalating the use of force before they even used the most useful simply talking a suspect down. In the USA it goes from a command to a handgun being used.
Now you have just created a whole new criminal class, if they are going to get shot anyway, they might as well shoot first.
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December 12th, 2020 01:25 PM
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December 12th, 2020, 02:50 PM
#132

Originally Posted by
Gilroy
For once we can agree and I can see today that there are many people in the policing profession that do not belong.
They do not belong because essentially they are cowards and they are scared. There is nothing worse IMHO than a scared police officer and if you don't have guts you simply should not be on the job.
I have witnesses hundred's on interactions on officers escalating the use of force before they even used the most useful simply talking a suspect down. In the USA it goes from a command to a handgun being used.
Now you have just created a whole new criminal class, if they are going to get shot anyway, they might as well shoot first.
I had a couple of drinks with friends I used to work with "on the job" who are now recently retired. Both were field training officers. What they told me was pretty unsettling. I don't know how well connected you still are or what information you're still privy to,but,police work as we knew it bears very little resemblance to how we were trained and executed our duties,in fact,neither you nor I would ever make it through the second part of the recruitment process. We're way too "hard a**" for today's politically correct hiring criteria.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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December 12th, 2020, 03:01 PM
#133

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
I had a couple of drinks with friends I used to work with "on the job" who are now recently retired. Both were field training officers. What they told me was pretty unsettling. I don't know how well connected you still are or what information you're still privy to,but,police work as we knew it bears very little resemblance to how we were trained and executed our duties,in fact,neither you nor I would ever make it through the second part of the recruitment process. We're way too "hard a**" for today's politically correct hiring criteria.
LOL I know that I was to hard a--- back in the year 2000. But was the homicide rate as high as today, did we have gang bangers running amok and killing each other and the odd innocent. Nope.
The police even today with maybe a little military back up could sort these guys out in a matter of weeks, but we would have to send all the politicians and all the lawyers and all the media on a boat cruise for the same time period. LOL
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December 12th, 2020, 03:17 PM
#134
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
Gilroy
The police even today with maybe a little military back up could sort these guys out in a matter of weeks, but we would have to send all the politicians and all the lawyers and all the media on a boat cruise for the same time period. LOL
The only problem is Trudeau doesn't want to loose all his votes from the criminals in the city. He's already lost the vote of most gun owners, allowing criminals to continue on their free reign of the city streets ensures future votes for the liberal party. Its easier to convince new Canadians and criminals to support a corrupt government.
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December 12th, 2020, 04:11 PM
#135

Originally Posted by
canadaman30
The only problem is Trudeau doesn't want to loose all his votes from the criminals in the city. He's already lost the vote of most gun owners, allowing criminals to continue on their free reign of the city streets ensures future votes for the liberal party. Its easier to convince new Canadians and criminals to support a corrupt government.
My experience of criminals and believe me its extensive is that they do not vote, maybe you can show me evidence they are big voters. Lumping new Canadians with criminal's says a lot more about your outlook than I care to discuss.
We are all new Canadians unless you have aboriginal blood coursing thought your veins and I know you don't because you dislike them also.
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December 12th, 2020, 05:17 PM
#136
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
Gilroy
My experience of criminals and believe me its extensive is that they do not vote, maybe you can show me evidence they are big voters. Lumping new Canadians with criminal's says a lot more about your outlook than I care to discuss.
We are all new Canadians unless you have aboriginal blood coursing thought your veins and I know you don't because you dislike them also.
Why did trudeau reverse mandatory minimum sentencing for gangsters, repeat offenders?
I have no problems with any race of people, what I don't supports is freeloaders that rape the system and pay zero taxes and contribute nothing to our country. If these are the people liberals support, its no wonder our country has gone to shyte and the billions of debt keep piling up higher by the day.
Last edited by canadaman30; December 12th, 2020 at 05:40 PM.
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December 12th, 2020, 05:45 PM
#137

Originally Posted by
canadaman30
Why did trudeau reverse mandatory minimum sentencing for gangsters, repeat offenders?
I have no problems with any race of people, what I don't supports is freeloaders that rape the system and pay zero taxes and contribute nothing to our country. If these are the people you support, its no wonder our country has gone to shyte and the billions of debt keep piling up higher by the day.
Can you articulate who you believe are freeloaders that rip the system off.
From my experience in the big city these people on a percentage basis are in the low percentage. Most new immigrants work very hard, pay their taxes and contribute to Canada.
Would you not be better targeting all the Big companies that operate here, making money but pay no taxes as they have their headquarters and bank accounts offshore.
This is where the big money is lost to Canadians.
Wealthy Canadian hiding up to 240 billion dollars:https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/cra...ings-1.4726983
Loblaws scamming 400million in off shore phoney account: https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/lob...-tax-1.4631967
Canadas Corporate Welfare bums costing us $6.4billion : https://www.fraserinstitute.org/arti...welfare-budget
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December 12th, 2020, 06:08 PM
#138
Canadaman,
"Why did trudeau reverse mandatory minimum sentencing for gangsters, repeat offenders?"
Again your wrong, the Supreme Court of Canada has been the body that has struck down mandatory minimum sentences, not just once but time and time again.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/sup...mums-1.3537150
https://www.loc.gov/law/foreign-news...or-gun-crimes/
I hope you have heard of the Supreme Court they got one down in the USA right now that has been busy knocking the sh-- out of the Donald for the past few weeks, pretty funny really. Lies and BS don't cut it there and the Donald have found he really need's evidence. LOL
Last edited by Gilroy; December 12th, 2020 at 06:20 PM.
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December 12th, 2020, 06:22 PM
#139
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
Gilroy
Can you articulate who you believe are freeloaders that rip the system off.
Race means nothing at all to me. Prime example my wife's father has been a career alcoholic for decades, raping the system for disability because welfare didn't pay as well. Living in Toronto housing funded by working tax payers so his rent is cheaper. All the prescription meds he wanted as long as he go's to certain doctor and pharmacy. Received enough prescription drugs that he sold monthly to buy more booze. PSW,s daily babysitting and cleaning his filth daily to the point that now he's in LTC costing thousands more every month than previous. Yep he's a white guy and a freeloader, and there are generations of families just like him that continue to freeload and rape our system. This is not about certain races at all, and these kind of people I will never support. There's many many more just like him that take all they can and give nothing in return.
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December 12th, 2020, 06:29 PM
#140
Has too much time on their hands
http://brianlilley.com/trudeau-wants...-of-jail-time/
Bill C-75, currently before the House of Commons, calls for a whole raft of crimes to be treated under summary conviction.
That includes terrorism offences.
Participation in activity of terrorist group
Leaving Canada to participate in activity of terrorist group
Advocating or promoting commission of terrorism offences
Concealing person who carried out terrorist activity
Concealing person who is likely to carry out terrorist activity
These offences currently have sentences ranging from a maximum of five years to 14 years in prison.
Under Trudeau’s Bill C-75, that could be reduced to a maximum of six months in prison.
The changes being brought in by the Liberals allow for each of those offences to proceed via summary conviction. Under the criminal code, the rules are clear, maximum six months in jail.
787 (1) Unless otherwise provided by law, everyone who is convicted of an offence punishable on summary conviction is liable to a fine of not more than five thousand dollars or to a term of imprisonment not exceeding six months or to both.
Are these the actions of a government that takes terrorism seriously?
Hardly.
Giving millions to terrorists and spending last I heard $56,000,000 fighting veteran's claims.... the Liberal's are back .... poor Canada
Mandatory Sentencing .... reduce s
Is the Liberal government’s promise to repeal mandatory minimum sentences dead?
By Jane Gerster Global News
Posted January 18, 2020 4:00 am
https://globalnews.ca/news/6381260/m...ustice-reform/
“I do have significant concerns regarding the abandonment of a number of issues that were previously in the party platform,” says Sen. Kim Pate, who’s spent decades advocating for the rights of people in Canadian prisons.
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“The plan to repeal mandatory minimum penalties is certainly a key one.”
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Sen. Pate reiterated as much in her 2018 speech introducing Bill S-251, which intended to amend the Criminal Code to do exactly that.
“Canada’s principles of justice, fairness, proportionality and restraint in sentencing — including an obligation in the Criminal Code to consider an individual’s Indigenous history — have been obliterated by mandatory minimum penalties,” Pate said.
Paying and helping the criminal... fighting vets, victims, women and free speech and openness....failing to live up to promises... the Liberal's are back .... poor Canada