Carbon Tax increases NOT put on hold

[Gilroy]

Oh Gilroy you are funny... I'd venture to guess what it takes to heat my house through a winter here in the "north" is equivalent in terms of fossil fuel useage as to what it take in hydro to cool a home in Florida or Arizona through the summer..thanks for the geography lesson that its colder in Canada, much appreciated commrade.

Your way..of the mark there and of course decided to zero in on a State with high temperatures. How about you be a little more sensible and look across the whole of Canada and its fossil fuel use, we have to heat homes for half the year and we all drive long distances. Pretty simply really to figure out.

[Gilroy]

27% of my last gas bill was carbon tax ... oh and they charged HST on the carbon tax!

Tax, tax, tax, tax .... and no results, no results, no results, no results ... THIS has not curbed CO2 output ... it definitely did NOTHING to fight climate change.

It is one big stupid and poorly executed idea! And they are doubling down now???? LOL, Trudeau is off the chart insane.

Being a good leader means making hard decisions.

Lets see what Mr O Toole proposes from his soapbox, the public have already spoken on pipe lines in the last election ,do you need a replay.

[canadaman30]

Being a good leader means making hard decisions.
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Indeed, I agree. But that's the problem in this country, we don't have a good leader...lol.

[Fox]

In the name of preservation of human kind to lower the effects of climate change, I’m all for it. BUT!!! I’m only for it if other countries are doing their fair share to curb the climate crisis.

This pole tax will not reduce the carbon footprint, all this will do is make the poor poorer in this country, mainly the rural population and those in northern communities who cannot afford to change to something else and put it all on credit.

[fishfood]

This pole tax will not reduce the carbon footprint, all this will do is make the poor poorer in this country, mainly the rural population and those in northern communities who cannot afford to change to something else and put it all on credit.

How true

And so many don't look at the past we have seen floodings wild fires and hurricanes devastating the world for hundreds of years . The cost of living has gone up and so has the devastating cost of rebuilding .

But it cost more now so we have a bigger problem lol.

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[Jakezilla]

Weather.

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUS...on-redirect=ca

So that article is your proof that Lloyds is dropping commercial building insurance in Canada? That's a pretty big leap, even for you.

[JBen]

My 2 copper.

Getting 60% of the population to change their habits is a tall order. Consider what it took to get people wear seatbelts and not drink. Both with huge cost on the back end...

Now consider smoking. Will taxation work? Of coarse it helps but it’s not the be all and end all.

People on shoestring budgets. When you live in Cities and have cheap Nat Gas, access to public transportation. Changing habits is “easy”. This will kill people that don’t live in cities. FFS way too many people are still on electric heat.........and switching over to propane or oil ain’t cheap.....

Alberta gripes about the transfer tax. Prior to the Liberals and green idiots helping to kill them off, the transfer was 20B a year.

Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to consider how many EVs could be on the road if 20B/year was used to help buy EVs for the masses that don’t gross $65,000

But common sense was never a long suit of Liberals, and thinking about the big picture not something the GTA does very often.

Fuel tax currently adds about 40% to everyone’s gas expense/budget. Do the math. And that’s today.

[Gilroy]

I just want to publicly thank the leader of the opposition Erin O'Toole for supporting the Paris Climate Accord. Also for agreeing with Alberta that we need a Carbon Tax, as Alberta was the first Province to propose one.

Pleas enjoy the video and attached links, I 'am going to make some pop corn.LOL

"Polling conducted in Canada made it clear in the last election the lack of a serious climate change plan was a factor for those who voted against the Conservatives. A lack of a serious plan will jeopardize the party's future chances."
Moving to O'Toole's “criteria” is where things get most interesting. It is where the Conservatives have boxed themselves into a corner by stating that policies will be “founded on proven market-based principles for incenting positive economic change,” “making industry pay,” “forging a national … pricing regime” and “simplifying the tax code.”

This sounds very much like a carbon tax, or certainly a carbon-pricing mechanism of some design. Perhaps like the one in Alberta, or the cap and trade system that Doug Ford scrapped in Ontario, or Manitoba’s new Green Levy, or the output-based performance standard Saskatchewan is proposing — all variations of a national pricing system. So, after all the political posturing and bluster, the good news is it looks like the Conservatives are, in fact, proposing a carbon price, just don’t call it a tax!

Alberta once proudly declared it was the first jurisdiction in Canada to price carbon — a truth now lost on many Conservatives.

https://www.nationalobserver.com/202...nt-call-it-tax

And now the movie to follow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9IeR3SPsYc

[JBen]

There are dozens of ways to skin a cat Gilroy.

Me?
I might slap a very hefty toll on the 401, and all major highways for example.

Unlike many politicians I’d wouldn’t give a crap about the howls from the GTA. How’d the last attempt at road tolls there go. The GTA talks a good game, I’ll say that much.


I’d be thinking about ways to skin the same cat. Without crushing people that can’t afford it.

[fishermccann]

An awful lot of the 401 outside the Gta. Like 95%of it. Try taking #7 from Ottawa to Windsor. Do we tax the 400 to North Bay or #11 a lot further than that? How about #69. Do you think that a travel tax on highways would only affect the GTA? How about someone in your neck of the woods taking #12 to the 401. How dare someone living in Port Hope or Milton take the 401 to work in the GTA.?Cut off your nose to spite your face? Lol